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  • Navigating Complex Immigration Pathways – Prateek Babbar, Director of Settle Immigration Services Inc. and Chair of the Board at the Canadian Association of Professional Immigration Consultants (CAPIC).

    Navigating Complex Immigration Pathways – Prateek Babbar, Director of Settle Immigration Services Inc. and Chair of the Board at the Canadian Association of Professional Immigration Consultants (CAPIC).

    This interview has been published by Anshi Mudgal and The SuperLawyer Team

    Let me start with the most important question, what motivated you to specialize in immigration consulting, particularly in areas like humanitarian and compassionate, medical, admissibility, and other complex matters? And how did Settle Immigration Services come into existence?

    Interestingly, this is actually my second career. Back in 2009, I was pursuing Chartered Accountancy. My father is a CA in both India and Canada, and as is often the case in India, the son typically follows in the father’s footsteps.

    At that time, immigration consulting was a growing field, and I thought I’d explore it as a side interest. But once I attended my first course, I realized this wasn’t something you could do casually – it’s vast and nuanced. There are so many areas: economic immigration, business streams, enforcement, family sponsorship, and more. So I decided to commit fully. Back then, ICCRC was the regulatory body.

    I completed the program, passed the licensing exams, and launched my practice in 2012. In the beginning, I handled every type of case to gain hands-on experience. Over time, I developed deep expertise in certain areas – especially humanitarian and compassionate applications and Procedural Fairness Letters (PFLs).

    For context, a PFL is issued when IRCC has concerns about an application. It gives the applicant a chance to respond. Often, the officer may have already made up their mind, but the process demands procedural fairness. We’ve had a strong track record – over 90% success in responding to PFLs in the last 12 years. Most PFLs we deal with are the result of DIY applications, which is why retaining a legal expert is so important.

    Settle Immigration offers a full range of immigration services, but my personal focus is on refusal cases, H&C submissions, and family sponsorships.

    From almost becoming a CA like your father, you built a successful career in a completely different field and are now Chair of the Board at the Canadian Association of Professional Immigration Consultants (CAPIC). Can you share more about that journey and your responsibilities?

    It’s been an interesting and rewarding journey. Initially, without business experience and determined not to rely on my father, I learned the hard way. There were moments when people suggested unethical practices – selling LMIAs, for example – which unfortunately occur in the industry, even among some lawyers.

    But I chose integrity. I wanted my work to speak for itself. It took years, but today I’m proud to say our clientele is purely referral-based – 100% word of mouth.

    I started with the Finance Audit Committee at ICCRC, which later became the College. I joined CAPIC in 2018 as a committee member, became a board member in 2021, and was elected Chair of the Board in 2024. This would not have been possible without the support of my parents – financially and emotionally.

    As Chair, my role includes providing strategic leadership, ensuring CAPIC remains a strong voice for immigration consultants across Canada. I work with the Board to set long-term goals, advocate for policy reforms, and maintain professional integrity. I also attend stakeholder meetings with CICC, IRCC, and CBSA. In fact, I recently co-chaired a meeting with IRCC’s Assistant Director Tammy Lynn on December 18th.

    The role allows me to help shape the future of our profession through reforms, continuing education, and advocacy.

    For skilled professionals abroad, particularly from India, how do you guide them in immigrating to Canada? What are key considerations?

    I start with a comprehensive assessment. I like to call myself an immigration doctor. I diagnose eligibility, identify the right stream (Express Entry, PNP, etc.), and tailor the path to the client’s goals.

    People often confuse Express Entry with PR. Express Entry is a system that manages applications under multiple programs: CEC, Federal Skilled Worker (FSW), and PNPs. For FSW, you first need 67 points out of 100. CRS is separate and draw-based.

    Many applicants fixate on the IELTS “7778” benchmark, but language is just one of six FSW factors. Job duties – not titles – are critical. Under section 87.1 of IRPR, the applicant must perform the majority of duties listed in the NOC. Even if your title is “Receptionist,” if you perform the duties of an “Administrative Assistant,” your role may be skilled.

    We pay close attention to experience letters – ensuring 60% of duties align with the NOC. Many employers, especially large ones, use rigid templates, which can be problematic. If needed, we request alternate letters from supervisors.

    Foreign experience letters often lack detail. I advise clients to secure complete, detailed letters before leaving their job. And never copy-paste duties, customization is key.

    We’ve never received a PFL for PR applications we handled from scratch in 12 years, that’s our benchmark.

    Could you elaborate on Express Entry vs. other pathways, and the common challenges applicants face?

    Express Entry gives you a score and lets you create a profile. But eligibility is the first step. The system favors younger applicants; points start dropping after age 29.

    Even if your score is low, register. Back in February 2021, there was a draw with a cut-off of 75 – the lowest ever. Profiles are valid for one year, and you can update them if you improve your language scores.

    If you’re paid in cash, that’s okay, just document it. Get a letter from your employer, bank statements if available, or tax filings. If income is below the tax threshold, provide an affidavit. If documentation is limited, secondary evidence like supervisor letters can help.

    For PNPs, some require job offers and others are draw-based. Applicants inside Canada usually have more options. Some streams like Ontario’s Human Capital Stream, pick you from the Express Entry pool.

    If you’re already here, Ontario has pathways for recent graduates and skilled trades. A master’s degree can give you 30 extra CRS points and some PNPs allow direct PR application after graduation.

    Alternatively, prepare well for IELTS and French. The French TEF or TCF can boost your CRS by 62 points, and IRCC now conducts French-specific draws. This is often underutilized.

    Spending $40K–$70K on a degree might not be necessary if you can reach a higher score through language preparation. That money could go toward a house down payment instead.

    What are some of the most common mistakes applicants make?

    First, eligibility is misunderstood. Selecting the wrong NOC can lead to refusals. Documentation errors are also frequent, such as submitting the wrong form.

    People also fail to disclose past visa refusals, even from other countries. That’s serious – under Section 40, it’s misrepresentation, which leads to a 5-year ban or removal if you’re in Canada.

    Always disclose, and always hire a legal expert if unsure. Small errors can lead to big consequences.

    How have global events like COVID or regional conflicts impacted immigration, and what does the future look like?

    Conflicts in Ukraine, Israel, and elsewhere have led to increased refugee claims and backlogs. Despite claims that AI only assists decisions, we’ve seen refusals issued by automated systems.

    Processing times have been affected, though IRCC says they’re using historical and projected data to improve accuracy. With high immigration volumes, economic pressures have led to reduced targets.

    Now more than ever, improving your score through language tests, especially French, is critical.

    Is there any final piece of advice you’d like to share?

    Yes – do not misrepresent. It’s taken very seriously here. Don’t submit false duties or experience. It may seem like a shortcut, but it jeopardizes your future and your family’s future too.

    If you want to gain skilled experience, ask your employer to give you those duties first, then apply. The integrity of your application must be protected at all costs.

    Thank you.

    Get in touch with Prateek Babbar –

  • “Law is an instrument of socio-economic change for me. Being an Advocate is both a privilege and responsibility.” – Aditya Singh, Founder and Chairman of Alexis Group

    “Law is an instrument of socio-economic change for me. Being an Advocate is both a privilege and responsibility.” – Aditya Singh, Founder and Chairman of Alexis Group

    This interview has been published by Namrata Singh and The SuperLawyer Team

    Aditya, looking back at the start of your career, what were some of the biggest challenges you faced, and how did you overcome them? Could you share a bit about your journey from your early days to where you are now?

    I am a first generation Advocate and lifelong student of law. I transitioned from management consulting to law in my late twenties. At the start of my career, some of the biggest challenges were uncertainty about career direction, lack of social networks within the legal profession, moral and ethical dilemmas, cultural and social barriers, facing rejection from potential clients, getting a fair remuneration, and difficulty in building the personal brand. 

    To overcome these challenges, I started seeking guidance and mentorship from seniors at the Bar, gaining practical experience by assisting them in a variety of matters, exploring different industries, prioritizing time management, viewing rejection as a learning opportunity, engaging in networking activities, pursuing continuous learning, and remaining adaptable to change.

    I believe that by persevering, staying resilient, and embracing opportunities for growth and development, I am navigating through these challenges and progressing in my career. 

    Now, I am working on a wide variety of matters in civil, criminal, commercial, constitutional, corporate, service/employment, and labour & industrial relations domains. My focus is on corporate advisory, dispute resolution, governance and compliances, research and analysis, and legal awareness and education. I also serve as a Legal Advisor or Empanelled Advocate for various companies, firms, and organisations such as the Vodafone Idea Limited, Docland Services Limited, and Uttar Pradesh Kabaddi Association to name a few. 

    You may learn more about me and my journey on www.adityasingh.co

    Could you tell us more about Alexis Law? What kind of work does the law firm undertake, and how do you leverage its resources and network to drive your initiatives in legal practice, public policy, and youth empowerment?

    Alexis Law is a full-service law firm based out of Lucknow. The firm offers wide range of legal services, spanning arbitration and mediation, litigation, corporate advisory, policy advocacy, and more. Leveraging its resources and networks, the firm undertakes pro bono work and community engagement efforts, such as legal clinics, legal awareness camps, and educational seminars. Furthermore, the firm supports youth empowerment initiatives by offering internships, and mentorship programs, thereby promoting diversity in the legal profession. 

    Please tell us about your latest initiative – Alexis Legal? What is your vision for this initiative?

    Alexis Legal is a global alliance of legal and dispute resolution professionals. Our team includes leading advocates, consultants, chartered accountants, company secretaries, cost accountants, and insolvency professionals.

    It is a values driven and membership based organization built on the principles of equity, fairness, and trust. Our core values are Integrity, Excellence, Commitment To Justice, and Continued Innovation.

    This alliance is a one of its kind professional development platform for enhancing the income and impact of legal professionals by improving their discovery and expanding their expertise, practice areas, and jurisdictions.

    As an advocate and consultant, you’ve been involved in various legal matters across different jurisdictions. Can you share a memorable experience or case that has shaped your perspective on the legal profession and advocacy?

    Law is an instrument of socio-economic change for me. Being an Advocate is both a privilege and responsibility. I have joined this noble profession for advancing social justice, protecting human rights, and fostering positive change at both the individual and systemic levels.

    In a recent case argued by me, Hon’ble High Court of Judicature at Allahabad, Lucknow Bench observed that True Love Between Adolescents Can’t Be Controlled Through Rigours of Law or State Action in its reportable judgement.

    It was a case of inter-caste love marriage which turned into an ugly legal battle as the family members of the girl lodged criminal complaints against the boy and his family members. The case was of technical nature due to various stringent sections of IPC and POCSO Acts.

    After dealing the case on technical and maintainability grounds, I presented three crystallised arguments, (a) Love knows no caste boundaries, (b) Romantic relationships between consenting adolescents must not be viewed as criminal acts mechanically, and (c) Happiness and well-being of an innocent couple and their children needs to be protected by the Hon’ble Court using its inherent powers u/s 482 Cr.PC. to uphold rule of law in the society.

    Hon’ble Court graciously allowed the application by accepting our submissions along with relevant judgements and quashed all the criminal proceedings.

    In this case, my team could secure relief for the client and his family in an 11-year-old case. Overall, it was a very fulfilling experience. 

    You’ve been involved in initiatives related to the environment and climate change. How do you see the role of law and advocacy in addressing these pressing global challenges, especially from the perspective of youth engagement?

    Law and advocacy play a vital role in addressing global environmental challenges, with youth engagement serving as a catalyst for positive change. Through policy advocacy, young people can push for the development and implementation of sustainable legislation at various levels of governance. Additionally, they can utilize litigation and legal action to hold governments and corporations accountable for environmental harm, demanding justice for affected communities and action on climate change. By raising public awareness and promoting education, youth-led initiatives can mobilize communities to adopt sustainable practices and advocate for environmental solutions. 

    I firmly believe that innovation and collaboration are fostered through interdisciplinary approaches, technology, and creative solutions, driving systemic change in environmental policy and practices. Furthermore, youth engagement in international forums like the United Nations Climate Change Conferences amplifies their voices on a global scale, fostering solidarity and cooperation in addressing shared environmental challenges. 

    Overall, law and advocacy provide a powerful platform for youth to effect positive change, shaping a more sustainable and resilient future for generations to come. Through strategic engagement in legal and advocacy efforts, young people can play a pivotal role in driving forward the global environmental agenda and promoting a healthier planet for all.

    Your participation in the UN Water Conference in New York and the UN Climate Change Conference in Dubai is quite remarkable. What insights or learnings did you take away from these global platforms, and how do you bring them back to your work in India?

    Last year, I got the opportunity to participate in the UN Water Conference in New York and the UN Climate Change Conference in Dubai as a representative of the Alexis Foundation.

    The 2023 UN Water Conference was held at the UN Headquarters in New York. I led a 7-member delegation and hosted an official side event on the topic – Innovative Solutions for a Sustainable Blue Economy through Water Action, Cooperation and Youth Engagement at the conference. 

    During this conference, I gained a deeper understanding of the global water crisis and the importance of collaborative efforts to address water scarcity, pollution, and access issues. Learning about innovative solutions and best practices from around the world has inspired me to advocate for more sustainable water management practices in India. I have incorporated these insights into my work by promoting water conservation, supporting community-led initiatives, and advocating for policies that prioritize equitable access to clean water for all.

    On the side-lines of this conference, I also met several dignitaries from around the world and Indian leaders and diplomats such as the Hon’ble Minister of Jal Shakti, Government of India, Permanent Representative of India to the United Nations, and Consul General of India, New York.

    The 2023 UN Climate Change Conference was held at the Expo City in Dubai. I led a 5-member delegation to the conference and Alexis Foundation was admitted as an Observer to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. This conference offered me valuable perspectives on the urgency of addressing climate change and the need for ambitious, collective action at both the global and local levels.

    Witnessing the global dialogue and negotiations first-hand reinforced the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration and stakeholder engagement in tackling climate-related challenges. I have leveraged these insights to advocate for climate resilience measures, renewable energy adoption, and sustainable development policies in India. Additionally, I am working to raise awareness about the impacts of climate change on vulnerable communities and promote climate justice principles in my advocacy efforts.

    Overall, my experiences at these global platforms have deepened my commitment to addressing pressing environmental issues and advancing sustainable development goals in India. By applying the insights and learnings gained from these conferences to my work, I strive to contribute to positive change and empower communities to build a more resilient and equitable future for all.

    Your journey includes several prestigious fellowships and certifications. How have these experiences contributed to your personal and professional growth, and what role do you see continuous learning playing in your career?

    My journey has been instrumental in shaping both my personal and professional growth. These experiences have provided invaluable opportunities for networking, mentorship, and exposure to diverse perspectives, all of which have enriched my understanding of the field of law and expanded my skill set.

    Participating in prestigious fellowships has allowed me to engage with leaders and experts, fostering mentorship relationships that have provided guidance and support in navigating complex professional challenges. These experiences have also exposed me to innovative ideas and approaches, pushing me to think creatively and critically about my work.

    Moreover, earning certifications has demonstrated my commitment to excellence and expertise in specific areas of interest such as Arbitration and Mediation, Constitutional Law, White Collar Crimes, Intellectual Property Law, Technology Law, and Right to Information. These credentials have enhanced my credibility and opened doors to new opportunities for career advancement and impact.

    Continuous learning is essential for staying relevant and effective in any career, but particularly in the ever-evolving field of law. Embracing a mindset of lifelong learning enables me to adapt to changing trends and technologies, deepen my expertise, and remain at the forefront of innovation. Moreover, it allows me to constantly refine my skills, broaden my knowledge base, and drive meaningful progress in my career.

    In essence, my journey through prestigious fellowships and certifications has underscored the importance of continuous learning in my career. By embracing opportunities for growth and development, I have become better equipped to navigate the complexities of the legal field, contribute to meaningful change, and achieve my professional goals.

    Given your background in both law and management, what approach do you employ to drive innovation and strategic thinking within your legal practice and social impact initiatives?

    As someone who has navigated the intersection of law and management, I have integrated Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) efforts into the firm’s strategy and operations and recommend the same to my clients and partner organizations.

    In legal practice, innovation means adapting to client needs. Therefore, Alexis Law has embraced technology to streamline processes, and enhance client experiences. Our team members embody the values of empathy, integrity, commitment to justice and continued innovation.

    To sum up, my approach combines legal acumen, management principles, and a commitment to positive change.

    When you’re not immersed in your professional endeavours, how do you like to unwind and recharge? Any hobbies or interests you’d like to share with our readers? 

    I am a firm believer in the philosophy of work-life integration. To unwind and recharge, I take short vacations every quarter and travel around the countryside in India and around the world. As a spiritual and religious person who loves nature, history, art and culture, I prefer to visit ancient temples, forts, palaces, museums and art galleries. My hobbies are photography, numismatics (collecting coins and notes), and philately (collecting stamps).

    What advice would you give to the current generation looking to pursue a career in law or advocacy, considering the evolving landscape of legal practice and social issues?

    For those aspiring to pursue a career in law or advocacy, it’s crucial to stay informed on legal trends, policy changes, and social issues, developing strong communication and critical thinking skills, and embracing technology. I believe that building a professional network, prioritizing ethics, and remaining adaptable and resilient are essential for success in the evolving legal landscape. 

    Furthermore, practical experience through internships and clerkships is invaluable, as is focusing on social impact and contributing positively to the society. Last but not the least, it’s imperative to prioritize self-care and well-being to sustain a fulfilling career amidst the demands of the legal profession. 

    Overall, aspiring legal professionals must strive for a combination of knowledge, skills, ethical integrity, adaptability, resilience and a commitment to making a difference in the society.

    Get in touch of Aditya Singh-

  • “The key to realising  a dream is to focus not on success but significance, and then even the small steps and little victories  along your path will take greater meaning” – Jossy Cherian, Associate Advocate at Law Veritas : North

    “The key to realising  a dream is to focus not on success but significance, and then even the small steps and little victories  along your path will take greater meaning” – Jossy Cherian, Associate Advocate at Law Veritas : North

    This interview has been published by Namrata Singh and The SuperLawyer Team

    Could you share your journey into becoming a legal and social work professional, emphasizing how your professional and personal experiences have shaped your path?

    My journey into the fusion of law and social work has been intertwined with personal experiences, academic pursuits, and a deep-rooted desire to effect positive change in society. I started my career in 2013, after completing a degree in Law and Post-Graduation in Social Work. Over the last decade I have had the opportunity to work with government organisations, NGOs, private sector organisations and law firms in various capacities which has made my professional journey more meaningful & richer and quintessentially varied from most people in our line of work.

    My perspective has been significantly shaped by my parents, who have consistently demonstrated a strong commitment to giving back to society. Witnessing their compassion and advocacy for what is right has deeply influenced my own values and beliefs. Further I always believed and has been quoted by Oprah Winfrey that “the key to realising  a dream is to focus not on success but significance, and then even the small steps and little victories  along your path will take greater meaning”

    Since joining Law Veritas: North in 2021, you’ve independently led the litigation department of the Firm. Share insights based on your personal experience regarding the journey towards attaining professional success.?

    I hold the belief that the success of individuals within an organization is directly correlated with the quality of the work environment. Upon joining Law Veritas: North in 2021, I initially had reservations about committing to a law firm, uncertain about exclusively focusing on litigation, especially the one that predominantly dealt with banking and insurance. However, adhering to the notion that nothing happens by chance but rather as preparation for greater things, I embraced the opportunity.

    Initially, my decision to work at Law Veritas: North was rooted in logistical convenience. As a new mother, proximity to home was a priority for maintaining flexibility in my professional pursuits. Since joining Law Veritas North, I’ve experienced a work environment that is both challenging and supportive. I’ve received substantial support in achieving my professional goals within the organization, and my mentors have not only acknowledged but also actively promoted and encouraged my specific area of interest. Additionally, the trust and acknowledgment extended to me by my seniors served as a catalyst for improved performance. This, in turn, strengthened my commitment to steering the litigation department towards success.

    I also hold the view that passion and authentic interest in one’s work are essential and serve a pivotal role in setting goals and achieving success. Additionally, the continuous refinement of skill sets has become vital in reaching professional goals, particularly in areas such as networking, knowledge enhancement, technological adaptation, effective communication, leadership, initiative, and persistent hard work and dedication.

    Managing diverse responsibilities, from civil and criminal litigations to community development initiatives, requires effective balance. How do you navigate these various roles, and what challenges have you encountered?

    The process that may appear as navigating between roles actually, feels organic to me. In litigation, being selective about the type of work one engages in can be challenging. Regardless of the nature of the case, every case and every story holds numerous perspectives and untold truths about human life. 

    Navigating between cases as an advocate presents a multitude of challenges that require careful consideration and adept management. One such challenge lies in the diversity of legal matters an advocate encounters. Each case comes with its unique set of facts, legal intricacies, and client needs. This necessitates a constant need for adapting one’s approach, strategies, and legal arguments to suit the specific nuances of each case. Furthermore, the time constraints imposed by multiple cases can be demanding. Effectively managing and prioritizing cases while ensuring each client receives the necessary attention requires strong organizational and time management skills. Juggling the intricacies of various legal issues, court appearances, and client interactions requires a delicate balance to ensure the best possible outcomes for each case.  However, it’s crucial to bear in mind that achieving this balance often involves the collaborative efforts of a team, and success is truly achieved when all members work in harmony. 

    Additionally, the emotional toll of dealing with diverse and often sensitive legal matters is a substantial challenge. Advocates frequently encounter clients facing distressing situations, and maintaining empathy while remaining professional is crucial. Striking this balance requires emotional resilience and a nuanced understanding of the human aspects intertwined with legal issues. Moreover, staying updated on the evolving legal landscape, precedents, and statutory changes across different areas of law is vital. This continuous learning process ensures that advocates are well-equipped to provide the most effective representation and counsel to their clients.

    Beyond the legal realm, your passion lies in advocating for social causes. Could you share a specific initiative or project that is particularly close to your heart, and why?

    I have a profound passion for social issues, particularly with respect to child rights, which holds a special place in my heart. To advance this cause, I have actively involved myself in initiatives related to education, child health care, adoption etc. Through my efforts, my aim is to foster a fair and inclusive social environment for children across all segments of society.

    What adds to the significance of children for me is their vulnerability and complete dependence on others. Children have the potential to instigate positive change in numerous aspects of life. With appropriate guidance, education, and nurturing, they can evolve into responsible and compassionate individuals, making positive contributions to their communities and the global society. Ensuring their safety and creating a nurturing environment are fundamental societal responsibilities. To echo the words of Kailash Satyarthi, the Nobel Peace Prize laureate, “Every single minute matters, every single child matters, every single childhood matters.”

    Can you elaborate on the specific aspects of CSR and adoption that have had a notable impact on your approach and understanding of the legal landscape?

    In the realm of Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR), companies often align their practices with legal requirements, recognizing that adherence to laws and regulations is an essential aspect of responsible business conduct. 

    Furthermore, ensuring compliance with local, national, and international laws becomes imperative for businesses to fulfil their CSR commitments. As they embark on CSR activities, business entities must be cognizant of and adhere to these legal frameworks. The integration of CSR commitments into contractual agreements and legal documents further underscores the connection between CSR and law. For example, companies may incorporate specific clauses related to environmental sustainability, fair labour practices, or community engagement in their contracts. Failure to meet these CSR obligations carries the potential for legal consequences. Therefore, the relationship between CSR and law is intricate, encompassing various facets such as legal compliance, regulatory frameworks, contractual obligations, and the management of legal risks associated with social and environmental impacts. By incorporating CSR into their business practices, companies align themselves with legal expectations, fostering a more responsible and sustainable business environment.

    My tenure at the Central Adoption Resource Authority (CARA) provided a structured environment where I consistently prioritized children’s safety and well-being. Managing the entire litigation and legal aspects of inter-country adoptions added an exciting dimension to my role. It exposed me to intricate legal issues, particularly from a foreign policy perspective, and involved collaboration with external affairs agencies and international organizations.

    Legal safeguards in adoption extend protections to adopted children, guaranteeing them equivalent rights and privileges to those of biological children. These rights encompass inheritance, medical access, and the entitlement to information about their adoption history, maintaining confidentiality, and more. Moreover, adoption agencies, whether public or private entities globally, are bound by legal regulations. These laws describe licensing prerequisites, ethical standards, and procedures that adoption agencies must adhere to, ensuring the legality and ethical integrity of the adoption process. It is crucial to highlight that the legal procedure extends to post-placement supervision, a measure taken to ascertain the well-being of the child within the adoptive home.

    Hence personally these experiences have helped to broaden my overall understanding of various laws, different approaches and strategies involved in the procedure.

    In your profile, proficiency in legal technology is mentioned. How do you see the integration of technology impacting the legal profession, and how have you embraced it in your practice?

    The fundamental transformation of the legal profession is underway through the integration of technology, giving rise to a wave of innovations that amplify efficiency, precision, and accessibility. This impact extends across multiple aspects of legal practice, including a revolution in legal research, the automation and management of documents, enhanced communication and collaboration, and an increased focus on cybersecurity and data protection. Adapting to this changing technology is an essential need of the hour for professional as personal growth.

    You’ve received a scholarship for an international workshop on “End Of Life Care” and have diverse experiences. Can you elaborate on your experience and learning?


    At the Summer University in Lausanne, Switzerland, where I was awarded a scholarship, I delved into a comprehensive study of ‘End of Life Care,’ exploring its social, psychological, and legal dimensions. Exposure to this program at the University enlightened me about the rights of individuals facing the end of life, regardless of whether it was due to old age, critical illness, or other reasons. Key topics included diverse legal frameworks, varied end-of-life care practices in different countries, honoring the wishes of the dying, palliative care, socio-psychological support for family members, and the dignified treatment of deceased individuals. These discussions and exchanges not only highlighted the current global health practices and legal considerations but also emphasized the need for a systemic approach in addressing the care of vulnerable individuals, considering the cultural nuances of each country.

    With your diverse experiences, what advice do you have for aspiring lawyers and professionals looking to make a positive impact on society through their legal careers?

    Addressing ICFAI University, Jharkhand as a Keynote Speaker representing Law Veritas: North in a panel discussion on ‘Advocacy as a Profession: Prospects & Challenges’ on the eve of Advocate’s Day last year, I highlighted advocacy’s pivotal role amid today’s information complexities. Advocates serve as catalysts for change, bringing attention to issues that may otherwise be overlooked or ignored or miscommunicated. The use of legal technology, artificial intelligence, and online platforms can streamline legal research, improve case management, and facilitate communication between advocates and their clients.

    In present scenario a whole lot more skills are required to establish yourself like:

    1. Effective Communication skills: Mastering the art of communication is fundamental. It involves not just speaking but also active listening and empathetic understanding.
    2. Creative Problem Solving: In the complex legal world, creative solutions often pave the way for resolving intricate issues. A flexible, innovative approach is invaluable.
    3. Analytical and observational skills- Attention to detail is key. The ability to analyze information critically and observe nuances can significantly impact legal strategies and outcomes.
    4. Reading- Cultivating a habit of continuous learning through reading is invaluable. It not only expands knowledge but also refines approaches to various legal challenges.
    5. Networking- Building professional networks is crucial for success. Collaborations, mentorships, and connections can open doors to opportunities and growth.
    6. Negotiation Skills: The art of negotiation is a powerful tool. It involves finding common ground while advocating for your client’s interests.

    My father’s insightful advice resonates deeply, “In this profession, be prepared to work harder than the money you receive.” Hard work, dedication, and a commitment to the cause are vital. 

    As advocates, our approach to these challenges should embody unwavering determination and resilience. Let us continue to champion the voices advocating for positive change, working together towards a more equitable and just future for all.

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  • Manushree Kaushik, Consultant, In-House Practice, Vahura shares her insight on the field of legal recruitment

    Manushree Kaushik, Consultant, In-House Practice, Vahura shares her insight on the field of legal recruitment

    Manushree Kaushik graduated in Law from Amity Law School, New Delhi in 2012. She had never thought of being a lawyer or a recruiter but being successful was her ultimate motto. Gaining diverse experience by interning at varied firms, soon after graduation she started working for Dua Associates, premier full-service law firm for a period of almost three years.

    Wanting to utilize her legal education and experience and at the same time to do something different, Manushree stumbled upon the field of legal recruitment. Since 2016, she has been associated with Vahura as a Consultant with the In-House practice group. She primarily focuses on hiring for corporates across sectors from junior level hires through to mid-level management on a pan India level. She firmly believes “Recruitment is not just about hiring talent; it is about finding and hiring the best qualified candidate in a timely and cost-effective manner.”

     

    In this interview, she talks to us about:

    • Her decision to switch from corporate law to legal recruitment.
    • Her intensive internships with some great dignitaries.
    • The difference she’s found difference between NLU and Non-NLU students?
    • And the skills she looks out for during the recruitment process.

    How would you like to introduce yourself to the readers?

    I am a lawyer by qualification and a recruiter by profession. I am a part of Vahura’s In-House Practice group. Currently, I am in a recruiting role wherein I focus on junior to mid-level hiring across sectors.

    I did not grow up thinking or dreaming of being a lawyer or a recruiter, I just dreamt of being successful. I had no lawyer in my family or even in my extended circle of friends but Law as a profession sounded fancy to a seventeen year old and so I was intrigued. I did a bit of research, got through law school and here I am. The journey has been wonderful and I am glad I chose this as a career. It’s only now that I realize that this education and all these experiences have made me a better person, the study of Law changes the perspective of how you look at people and situations around you.

     

    What is your take on internships?

    Internships are the best part of the entire experience. Law school will teach us theory and maybe to some extent practical (via Moot Courts) but the real world of practice is very different and you can only experience it when you are in that atmosphere. Watching a Senior Advocate being briefed inside his chambers, the relentless chatter at a law firm, happy lawyers, stressed lawyers, lawyers arguing in a court room while the judge is trying to keep calm, all these things cannot be witnessed at a law school.

    I think the primary motive of an intern should be to observe and learn as this will give you a platform to base your expectations on. Enjoy your internship and you will be able to make the most of it.

    I wanted to gain varied experiences,  I have interned with independent practitioners, law firms and public bodies and each internship was different than the other. Although I thoroughly enjoyed all my internships, the most enriching one was the first one. It was the first time that I was seeing and hearing the royalties of the Indian legal fraternity, it was informative but also thrilling and exciting to witness these dignitaries live in action.

     

    Describe your experience of interning in the office of Mr. Parag Tripathi, Additional Solicitor General, Supreme Court of India and also with Mr. Gopal Subramaniam, Solicitor General, Supreme Court of India.

    I have had the opportunity to intern in the office of dignitaries like Mr. Parag Tripathi and Mr. Gopal Subramaniam.

    I had just cleared my first year exams and in the vacations that followed, I was interning with Mr. Subramaniam. We were two first years in that batch of interns and needless to say, both of us were extremely overwhelmed. I was told by another senior that I was at the right place but my timing was wrong. I was too young to learn something from the office of a Senior Advocate, and I might not have learnt a lot about the Law but I definitely learnt something about being a good lawyer.

    Similar was the experience at Mr. Tripathi’s office. I was three internships old when I interned with him and his office consisted of a very friendly team and that stems from the fact that Mr. Tripathi himself is a very friendly person. He devoted individual time to all the interns and would make us feel important and involved.

     

    How were the first few years after your graduation?

    I joined the Gurgaon office of Dua Associates right after graduating from college. I spent almost 3 years at the firm and that is when I truly realized what being a lawyer is all about. I was an excited fresher, who was willing to take on any responsibility and my focus has always been on delivering results. For the initial few months, I was doing a lot of research work. I was surrounded by a lot of people who wanted nothing but the best for me and this included my team members at Dua. The partners and the managers were all very supportive; they invested their time and energy into my training. It built a strong foundation for me and that experience has helped me a lot in shaping up my career.

    The law school experience was limited in the sense that we did learn a lot about the Law but not so much about the real world practice of law. The internships did help to some extent but they are not even close to the real thing. I was only able to make the most of my education and training, after I started working full time as a lawyer.

     

    What made you switch from corporate law to the field of legal recruitment?

    (Manushree worked as a corporate lawyer with Dua Associates for three years.)

    It was in 2016 that I decided to take a sabbatical for a few months. I wanted to explore the possible options available to a law graduate.  Moving to another law firm was an obvious choice but somehow I was not fully convinced to do so. I also made attempts at a few in-house opportunities and during this entire process I was being approached by multiple recruiters. I enjoyed my interactions with them so much that I befriended a few. I started to learn about the recruitment industry and I was really intrigued by the profile of a recruiter. It was fascinating and risky at the same time. I wanted to utilize my legal education and experience and at the same time wanted to do something different. And recruiting lawyers gives me the perfect balance of both.

     

    As a consultant with the In-House practice group at Vahura, tell us your work profile.

    At present, I focus on junior to mid- level hiring across companies. Our client base is spread across the country and hence we get to work with clients on a pan-India basis.

    Unlike most search firms, we have a unique network within the legal and governance fraternity which allows us to access the best passive talent not visible to most.

    My role includes analysing the requirements of a job, attracting professionals to that job, screening and selecting candidates and helping them integrate to the organization. Coming from a legal background, it is easier to comprehend the needs of the clients in this industry and this enables me to provide them with the right kind of talented professionals. Recruitment is not just about hiring talent, it is about finding and hiring the best qualified candidate in a timely and cost-effective manner.

     

    Being in the legal recruitment domain, have you found any difference between NLU and non-NLU students?

    The NLUs have a very different way of imparting education and training to its students. They have very strict qualifying criteria, and the environment is highly competitive. Also, the infrastructure and other facilities provided to the students are better than other law schools. And the most important factor are the placements, NLUs are the preferred choice when it comes to placement with premier law firms and corporates.

    However, a student’s future as a lawyer cannot solely be decided by the law school. Stay focused on becoming a good lawyer and success will follow.

     

    What are the skills that you look for while filtering during the recruitment process?

    Usually, it is the resume that creates the first impression. A well drafted and concise resume is the first sign of a promising candidate. And you must know your profile by heart. Everything that you have claimed to do, you should have done it. No lying on the resume.

    Another key factor is the confidence. It is very important to be confident in your interviews. Only if you have faith in yourself, will the interviewer have faith in you. Also, make sure that you are able to communicate your expectations clearly. Do not sell yourself short and do not over commit.

    Students should work on building these skills and with the right amount of dedication and hard work; they will be successful in securing a position in the industry.

     

    What would be your parting message to the budding lawyers?

    Be true to yourself. Do not leave any stone unturned in the journey to achieving your goals. Set a target for yourself and keep going till you hit it.

  • Biplab Lenin, Consultant, Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas, on building up expertise in Intellectual Property Rights

    Biplab Lenin, Consultant, Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas, on building up expertise in Intellectual Property Rights

    Biplab Lenin graduated from Rajiv Gandhi School of Intellectual property law (2009-2012). He is a qualified attorney with more than 4 years of both law firm and in-house experience in dealing with general corporate and intellectual property matters. He is registered to practice before Indian patent office and currently working with Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas at its Delhi office. His core areas of work include wide range of transactions, general advisory and intellectual property matters. He has acted on some of the significant and complex transactions that the intellectual property team has been involved with.

    In this interview he talks to us about:

    • How he build up expertise in IPR.
    • Primary essentials of a corporate lawyer.
    • Professional ethics one should follow while at work.
    • Basic subjects one should understand before sitting for an interview.

    How would you introduce yourself, given that most of our readers are law students, law aspirants or professionals in the legal arena?

    I am currently working as a Consultant with Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas in New Delhi. My practice areas include intellectual property laws and corporate laws. I am a registered patent agent at Indian patent office. I completed my LL.B. from Rajiv Gandhi School of Intellectual Property Law (RGSOIPL) in IIT Kharagpur Campus and also hold a graduate degree in Biotechnology Engineering.

    Were you always as fascinated by the field of IP Law or was it an acquired passion that set in through your college years?

    Since my father is also a lawyer, I was never a stranger to legal discussions which my father often used to do with his friends over evening tea after a long day in Court. Nevertheless, after 12th standard I followed the crowd of students doing engineering. In the last semester of my engineering, there was a subject called ” Intellectual property Rights”. Somehow, it attracted me quite a lot mainly because it involved both technology and law. That led me to apply for the course at RGSOIPL at IIT Kharagpur. I guess I was lucky to have studied under tutelage of good teachers and in a diverse peer group that IIT offers. Though I had an inclination towards IP subjects, at the same time, I wanted to do my internships on other subjects as well. Hence, I did internships with law firms as well as corporate in the domain of general corporate law, taxation, disputes, technology transfer and intellectual property law.

    How did you build up your expertise in IPR? Tell us about your work experience.

    My first hands on training on practical aspects of law happened in my internship at Monsanto. After finishing law school, I joined Mahyco as an in-house Counsel where I worked on different IP laws like patents, trademarks, plant variety, biological diversity and technology transfer. More importantly, interactions with several eminent scientists and stalwarts in the agri-biotech domain helped me realize the importance of understanding the technical nuances of the technology involved in any IP law. My engineering education helped me a lot in this area.

    After completing three and half  years of satisfying work at Mahyco, I joined Cyril Amarchand Mangaldas at Delhi where I am working on matters related to patents, plant variety, biodiversity, transfer & assignment of Intellectual property and general corporate transactions. On litigation front, I am a part of the team which is handling patent infringement and drugs ban litigation before the Delhi high Court. 

    Tell us about your schooling and early life. What do you think are the habits that you cultivated which help you today?

    I did my schooling from Sainik School in Bhubaneswar from Class 6th till Class 12. I think the values of integrity, camaraderie which are a hallmark of the army, are ingrained in me now. Also, Sainik School gave us a lot of endurance training, which helps me when I have to work for long hours in the Firm! I feel that my school experience was also quite instrumental in putting me at ease in any group with diverse cultural backgrounds, which is helpful for an attorney whose work involves people interaction.

    How are internships helpful for a law student? What are the other options available for someone interested in IP?

    Internships have a role to play in one’s professional career as a lawyer. They help us in learning how the law is practically applied. Also, business aspects of transactions are also better appreciated in internship. Skills like corporate communication are sharpened during internship. For those who are interested in making a career in IP, I suggest doing first internship under a practicing lawyer to get a feel of our justice delivery system. It is also important to look for quality work rather than brand name. There is no point in securing an internship in a big organization where there is little work for an intern. Students can join an IP specialized law firm or corporate for doing internships.

    Having Said that, I also feel that one should not be obsessed with stuffing one’s CV with internships. It is important to remember that in college one is a “professional student”and one’s primary duty as a professional student is to study the law books and the basic concepts. What can be learnt in 10 internships over 5 years in a no-pressure situation can be learnt in 6 months in a pressure situation when one starts actually working after college. Many times these days, interns, who have finished more than 10-12 internships in their first 3-4 years of college, but unclear about fundamental legal concepts, which I believe is injustice to one’s profession as a student.

    How do you maintain your work-life balance?

    I have always had a problem with this concept which pre-supposes that work and life are different and need to be balanced. I believe the first step in achieving work-life balance is to love yourself and love your work. Luckily I do both! Presently my focus is on honing my skills. I believe I’m being paid to learn now so I’m not complaining at all! I also believe that even at a senior level people do get time for themselves while managing work and I feel this should not be a concern for us at least at the beginning of our career.

    Any extra-curricular or co-curricular activities did you take up during your time at RGSOIPL and engineering? How did the same affect your learning experience and prepare you for the legal sector?

    I participated in a few moot court competitions during my college. However, I enjoyed parliamentary debate competitions more and also participated in several case study competitions conducted at IIT Kharagpur. During my engineering days as well, I have participated in several paper and poster presentations.

    However, apart from legal skills, I used extra-curricular activities to build my communication skills and inter-personal skills. I was one of the founding members of moot court society and conducted the first parliamentary debate competition at RGSOIPL.

    During my law school days, I worked as a volunteer in an NGO named “Independent Thought” based in Delhi. The NGO works for the Eradication of Social Disparity and Injustice by promotion of Fundamental and Socioeconomic Rights. I used to assist team in doing research and preparing reports with regard to remedies on issues relating to child labour. This experience showed me the humane side of the law and it still keeps my sensitivity intact and reminds me that beyond all the paper work and legal arguments there are real people who are affected by what I do.

    Generally the first year after graduation is the most defining time of a fresh law graduate. What would you suggest a fresh law graduate should do to hold spirit and utilize the opportunities available?

    I would suggest a two-pronged approach:

    1. Many students are thinking about doing an LL.M, immediately after LLB. I feel that an LL.M. without any work experience is just an LLB with some more semesters and a thesis.
      I strongly encourage fresh graduates to take up some professional assignment of their liking instead of academics, be it with a law firm or corporate or even NGO. You’re bound to be confused, so make sure someone’s paying you in the meantime!
    2. In college, we first pay fees and then we learn. In a job, we get paid to learn. Therefore, as a paid student, learn as much as you can about different areas of law and practice. It is important to remember that most books mention “law” and “practice” separately, for example Banking Law and Practice, meaning thereby that practice is something different from mere legal provisions. This will help you in choosing a particular field or subject for your career.

    What are the primary essentials of a corporate lawyer? How do you say a fresh graduate can work on building these skills?

    I think honesty towards the client and one’s colleagues is of utmost importance. One may be low on information about a legal concept, which can be gained, but honesty must come from inside. This of course is a basic human requirement in any profession, so all law graduates must also try to imbibe these values.

    Patience is also a vital asset. One must not get affected by looking at how others are doing in the profession.

    What are the primary professional ethics you follow while at work? How do you deal with mistakes or errors?

    I believe that honesty is the best policy. If there is a mistake, one should admit immediately. Mistakes are bound to happen especially in areas where human effort is involved. In face of mistakes, first requirement is to maintain a cool head, accept a mistake has been made and then immediately start working on a solution. When I’m the team lead, I own the mistakes of my team. I think clients too appreciate such candidness.

    What are the basic subjects which one should read and have understanding of before sitting for an interview?

    From point of view of legal concepts, basic understanding of the following 5 subjects is a must for any civil lawyer regardless of any interview:-
    1. Contracts (including sale of goods and specific relief)
    2. Transfer of property
    3. Evidence
    4. Registration and stamp duty (basic concepts not details)
    5. Constitution (basic concepts)

    Thereafter, one may try to gauge the requirements of any specific interview and prepare accordingly.

    Where do you see yourself ten years down the line?

    Hopefully still on the line!! Jokes apart, my first aim is to build my expertise in my domain, which is more of an internal process. I haven’t really given a thought to any particular designation as such. But I would like to be a lawyer who has earned atleast two things – complete trust of  clients which  allows them to sleep peacefully as far as their legal worries are concerned; and respect from seniors and peers in the profession regarding my professional ethics and competence. Apart from this, designations are trivia!

    Please compare RGSOIPL with other law schools.

    RGSOIPL is a unique law school because admission itself requires a degree in technology or medicine. Being a part of IIT Kharagpur campus, it has an IIT-style admission process with entrance test, group discussion and interviews, which is a great learning in itself. It attracts students from all over the country, which helps in enriching one’s culture and view of life. Also, studying law in the IIT Kharagpur campus in the midst of the crème-de-la-crème of India’s technical brains, gave me 2 important lessons –

    • Law is an instrument to facilitate business and technology;
    • Law cannot be learnt or applied in isolation without an eagerness to learn the technical dynamics of any business.

    RGSOIPL also benefits from the infrastructure of IIT. We had access to major online legal resources like Westlaw, Manupatra and Hein online apart from books.  There are various co-curricular activities which one can pursue to unwind from demanding course schedule.

    How is your experience in working as In house and then shifting to law firm?

    Being an In-house counsel helps to learn the significance of law as a toll for business. However, I would advise to have law firm and court experience at the initial stages of the career and learn court proceedings and allied matters and then shifting to in-house.

    Shifting from In-house to a law firm is tough from a work pressure point of view. Also, subject experts are readily available when you are working in-house, which may not be the case in a law firm full of mostly lawyers. Anyone who wishes to develop a very particular specialization should work in in-house IP department. Law firm gives you a more diversified work. Needless to say, law firm working hours are more strenuous. However, learning as well as growth is much speedier in a law firm.

    What would be your parting message to our readers?

    An excellent CGPA is always good. However, it is important to co-curricular and extracurricular activities as well. Read as much as you can. Take risks when it is required. It is not necessary that every risk you take will result in success. There will be failures too.

    It is important to not think too seriously about oneself and one’s so-called reputation etc. while taking professional decisions. I think the most vital part is that one should feel good both as a human being and a lawyer.

     

  • Prachi Vijay, Associate Consultant, Ernst & Young, on law school, internships and work experience

    Prachi Vijay, Associate Consultant, Ernst & Young, on law school, internships and work experience

    Prachi Vijay is an Associate Consultant at Ernst & Young. She graduated from Government Law College, Mumbai in 2013. While in college, she explored various areas of law and has interned in several places including law firms such as DH Law & Associates and Ernst & Young, tax firms, consultancy firms and the Court. Soon after graduation she joined Intellistay Hotels Pvt. Ltd. as a Legal Executive where she worked for over a year before joining Ernst & Young. In this interview she talks about:

    • Law school experience at GLC, Mumbai
    • The importance of doing varied internships
    • Interning and working at Ernst & Young

     

    How would you introduce yourself? Could you please share a little bit of what motivated you to pursue law as a career?

    I graduated from Government Law College in 2013 and am currently working with Ernst & Young as an Associate Consultant. I come from a very small town where there are only three types of career options available- Government job, Medicine and Engineering. Anything apart of these is pursued only when you are not good enough to secure one of the three jobs.

    Not wanting to follow the conventional course and clueless about what to do, it was actually my late grandfather who motivated me to pursue law. While studying for 12th Boards, I was staying at my grandparents place. He kept on telling me how honourable the legal profession is. The seeds of legal studies were sown then. Consequently, I entered law school and by the end of first year, I was certain that this is what I was meant to do. So, what started as an experiment became a passion in no time.

     

    Tell us about your college life at GLC. What all activities did you partake in?

    Government Law College was an experience par excellence. Most of the times, students were involved in the co-curricular and extra-curricular activities. Committee meetings were frequent and it was there that the best friendships were made. Throughout the year, GLC holds a wide number of activities including moot court (national and international), debates, sports, study tour, guest lecture, etc. I was in the organizing team of most of the events that the college used to organise; Students Council ad hoc, Magazine Committee, Placement Committee, Alumni Association, to name a few.

    As far as academics were concerned, the practical exposure was immense. The classes would finish by 10:30 a.m. and I was interning full time throughout the year. So, whatever was being taught in class, I had already worked on them at the law firm where I was interning. The concept became clearer. I managed to inculcate theoretical as well as practical knowledge at the same time. This made studying easier and interesting. Five years passed in no time and voila! I was a lawyer already.

     

    What were your areas of interest during your graduation? How did you go about developing expertise and knowledge in these areas?

    My areas of interest were Company law, IPR and Arbitration and they still are. During my internships, I worked extensively on these areas. When you are in your 2nd year of law school, you are not taken too seriously and you end up photo copying, scanning and at the most researching, for the entire duration of your internship. So, I would go around the law firm asking people to give me work involving Company law or IPR or Arbitration. As a result I not only researched on the cases at hand but started drafting notices, giving legal opinions, making and filing trademark applications and drafting opposition.

     

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    What kind of internships did you do in your law school? Which internships will you consider to be right at the top and why?

    I am originally from Patna. The first time I came to Bombay was when I got admitted to GLC. So going back home for vacations were the only thing I looked forward to in those days. As a result, my first 2 internships happened back home.

    For 2 months, I interned with a Senior Advocate at Patna High Court, Mr. Keshav Srivastava. I learnt the basics there: Court proceedings, researching, etc. Also, it completely shattered the picture I had in my mind about the Court.

    My second internship was at a CA firm. It was a CA firm but it taught me the intricacies of taxation. As a result, my interest in taxation grew manifold and this helped me in getting an internship at a later stage at TLC, which is a taxation firm based out of Bombay which specialises in Tax litigation.

    However, the internships that played a major role in grooming me and preparing me for my legal career were DH Law & Associates and Ernst & Young. I joined DH Law when I was in my 3rdyear and was subsequently promoted from an intern to a paralegal. Consequently, I was there for more than a year and worked mainly on corporate law, IPR and arbitration. This internship by and far clarified the confusion of most law students: whether to pick corporate law or litigation.

    In the last year of my college, I started interning in Ernst & Young where I dealt with extant state, national and international laws. All in all, I explored almost all the areas of the legal field during my college years.

    I don’t come from a law background. So getting the first internship was difficult. I was dependent upon my grades in college for that. However, after much try once I secured the first one, all others followed quite smoothly.

     

    Did you find that your law school education had prepared you sufficiently for internships and your job?

    Law school is an experience in itself. In GLC everything is student driven. Whether you are organising an event or helping your seniors to get placed. Everything is taken care of by the student bodies which are headed by professors. All the execution work is handled by the students. From getting the bouquets for welcoming the guests at the event to going to law firms to invite them to take part in the placement program, everything was managed by the students. So, GLC ingrained in me a sense of responsibility. And the moment you become responsible and answerable for your work, half the battle is won. Practice years teach you the nitty-gritties of the legal field. But the basics, the concept, the root is learnt during the years of college.

     

    Did you learn any skills while interning? What are these skills and how did you acquire them?

    The top things that I learnt while interning were patience and how to work under pressure with stringent timelines without compromising on the quality of work.

    If you don’t have a legal background, the only thing that might help you in securing your first internship is a good CGPA.

    When you have contacts, it becomes easier to get into a good law firm for internships from the very initial days of law school. Having said that, contacts may land you into a good internship but whether the law firm is going to retain you or not depends upon your willingness to work hard.

     

    What do you have to say about mooting at law school and legal writing for journals?

    Mooting gives you a picture of what it would be like when you finally step into the legal field as a professional. It improves your researching and your ability to put your arguments in front of others. While mooting improves your verbal skills, legal writing improves your writing skill. Both of these are extremely important for your overall development as a lawyer. I cannot comment on whether they add bonus value to your CV or not but they certainly enhance your capabilities.

     

    How did your appointment take place at Intellistay Hotels Pvt. Ltd.? What worked for you in securing the job? What kind of responsibilities you were entrusted with?

    I’d interned in all possible areas-Court, Law Firm, Consultancy, Tax firm. The only area that was left to explore was a Company. The initial years are the only time when one can experiment and explore so when I got to know that there is a vacancy in a hospitality company for legal post, I jumped at the opportunity. I applied directly through their website and after the telephonic interview, I was called for personal interview. Within a week’s time, my appointment got confirmed and I had to join the following week. I worked there for a little more than a year. I was mainly responsible for the day to day legal issues of the company; for e.g.:- drafting and reviewing legal documents like lease, Contracts, MOUs, etc.; hospitality laws and regulations, liaisoning with various departments like Municipal Corporation, Excise Department, Police, etc. for acquiring various licenses including liquor license, trade license, etc.

     

    What would you suggest a fresh law graduate should do to hold spirit and utilise the opportunities available during the first year of graduation?

    The initial years of a law graduate play the most important role. You are no longer a law student and neither are you an established legal professional. This is the time to learn, to grasp, to get involved and make the most of it. Once you are well equipped with the work at hand, success becomes inevitable.

     

    You currently work as an Associate Consultant at Ernst and Young. What prompted you to make this choice and what made this shift possible?

    I worked at IntelliStay Hotels for over a year. It will always be special because it helped me become independent. While I was very happy with the work entrusted in IntelliStay, when an opportunity came along from EY, I knew I had to take it. The basic aim is to grow. The initial years are the best time to grow.

     

    How did your appointment at E&Y take place?

    I had already interned at EY for almost a year during college days. One of my seniors approached me when there was vacancy. While recruitment happens through the traditional method in EY, since I had worked there before, I only had to go through the telephonic interview. The recruitment was smooth.

     

    We would love to hear about your work profile. Being an Associate Consultant, what are your responsibilities?

    My basic work at EY is to help the clients in executing their plans and business. A normal work day starts with a cup of tea and a briefing of what a particular client wants. Once briefed, time lines are set and everyone gets to work. At EY, no one hovers over your head watching whether you are working or not. Everyone is just concerned about the quality of work and its completion within the stipulated time. So, responsibility comes right from the junior most post. You are responsible and answerable for your own work.

     

    What have been your failures and successes? What were the biggest hurdles and challenges in the first few months?

    Shifting from a Company (where the work is limited to the matter concerning the company) to a Consultancy (where work revolves around the requirements of the client and you are expected to work on a number of issues at the same time) is in itself the most challenging task. The first few months at EY were difficult for the simple reason that people here are very particular about providing nothing but the best service to clients and for that you are expected to go beyond your comfort zone. Fortunately, my seniors were always there to help. The healthy work environment made this transition very easy.

     

    What are the primary professional ethics you follow while at work? How do you deal with mistakes or errors?

    EY has a code of conduct and you are not expected to breach it. Client’s information is confidential and in no circumstances it can be discussed with people that have no business. Social media is to be handled with responsibility. There is absolutely no compromise on the integrity of the firm. At EY, there is hardly any scope for error or mistake.

     

    How do you keep yourself abreast with latest industry news and trends?

    Social media today is so strong that it is not at all difficult to reach the nook and corners of latest industry news.

     

    Many young lawyers at corporate firms complain about the work being too exhausting, and that maintaining a work-life balance is just not possible. Could you share any tips on this?

    It’s all about the priorities. Once out of law school, the priority is to work in a good firm or a company. The basic idea is career growth. During the initial years, the question of whether one would be able to maintain work-life balance should not seep in. Once the initial years are done and dusted with, there is always a choice to work at your own terms. The career growth in legal field is comparatively fast if you are willing to give your 100%. When I got my first job, I was willing to look beyond the work load and the time schedule. I just wanted to learn and work. I compelled my bosses to give me tasks that no one was willing to take. Within no time, I became indispensable to my company.

    There can never be a work-life balance. You either work or you manage your life. Work is my priority right now too. Five years down the line, may be life will be my priority and I’ll work accordingly.

     

    What is the procedure to apply for an internship and recruitment at E&Y? What do they look for in their prospective employees?

    Recruitment at EY happens through the traditional way of interview.

    It’s a three stage process-

    1. a) shortlisting your CV;
    2. b) telephonic interview including HR round; and
    3. c) personal interview.

    EY looks for people who are responsible and responsive and are willing to take charge of things.

     

    Is there any other tip you would like to give to our budding professionals?

    Patience is a virtue. I was rejected by a number of recruiters before being finally employed. And a year and a half later, I am at a happy place. I look back and I thank them for not hiring me. There is no substitute for hard work-whether you are litigating or joining corporate. Just be passionate about whatever you are doing or don’t do it at all.

    Like Charles Bukowsi said: “Find what you love and let it kill you.”

  • Divya Vikram, Consultant, Legal League Consulting, on her experience and the future of Legal Management

    Divya Vikram, Consultant, Legal League Consulting, on her experience and the future of Legal Management

    Divya Vikram is a graduate from NUJS, batch of 2012. During her time as an undergraduate, she was Director of the Society for Advancement of Criminal Justice (SACJ) for two consequent years. She has also taught at the Adult Literacy and Legal Education Programme, an initiative undertaken by the Legal Aid Society of NUJS. She is currently a consultant with Legal League Consulting, where she handles Strategy and Business Planning, Practice Development, Brand Communications & Client relationships, Law Firm Alliances and Synergies.

    In this interview we speak to her about:

    • Her experience at LCC and the responsibilities the job entails
    • Striking a balance between work and personal life
    • The future of legal management

     

    How did you decide to study law? Tell us about your college life

     

    Let’s just say, law was sort of a happy accident. College life in the first year I would say was sort of tough. You had to get adjusted to living away from home, your parents and friends back home, hostel life, hostel food, making new friends, coping with law school in general. However, things got better with subsequent years. Law school shapes you as an individual and professional. NUJS offered me diverse things to do as a student, be it moot courts, publications, managing committees/societies, volunteering in various activities etc. apart from the regular studies and projects.

     

    What kind of internships did you do while you were a student? 

    After my first internship at Lawyers Collective (NGO), I decided to do my second internship in a law firm. I started with ALMT Legal then subsequently interned at AZB & Partners, Trilegal, Brus Chambers etc. None of my experiences were remarkable as such but each internship taught me something new. However, at the end of 4th year I decided that five years down the line, I don’t see myself working in a law firm.  Hence in my 5th year in order to experience the corporate world as well, I interned at a Corporate (SunEdison) and loved it.

     

    How did you decide to work with Legal League Consulting?

    The first time I heard about Legal League Consulting (LLC) was in my 5th year when they invited applications through Campus Recruitment Committee. That’s when I checked online about LLC and the managing law firms. Also, I was lucky to find a junior who had interned there and he explained me the nature of work they undertook. From what I learnt about the nature of work I was almost immediately convinced and interested at the prospect of working at LLC.

     

    divya-vikramCan you tell us something about the kind of work LLC does?

    (LLC is the first law firm management company in India legal industry.)

    Legal League Consulting (LLC) provides Management Consulting to the legal industry. We provide solutions to the legal industry with respect to Human Resource Management, Financial Management, Business Development, Strategic Business Planning, Knowledge Management, Partnership Structuring, Alliance, etc. In a Nutshell, it’s basically a 360* degree management service to the Legal industry.

    My role at LLC majorly involves, but not restricted to, formulating policies essential for running of a law firm, undertaking activities to assist firms in developing business. I also assist Law Firms in the implementation of various Human Resource, Business Development and Knowledge Management related systems.

     

    Did you ever hit a rough patch in the beginning of the career? 

    Student life was fun and apart from scoring good grades and working towards a making a good CV and enjoying college life, there was not much you really had to do. But being a professional is altogether a different ball game. It was indeed a little difficult to transition. Firstly, my transition from a lawyer to a management consultant itself was a difficult one, especially those work involving compensation structuring and other finance related aspects. Learning various management concepts, its application and understanding the rationale behind it. As a Consultant, you are solely responsible for all the clients you handle and the documents you send them etc. therefore the accountability factor is more and one cannot afford to make mistakes. Furthermore, one has to be well informed about not only the Company’s clients but the market and global trends and keep evolving.

     

    What is a typical day at work like?

    At LLC I work for the Law Firm Management Team (the other two being Brand Communications and Talent Acquisition Team), where we undertake a wide variety of work starting from HR, Finance, Partnership Structuring, Compensation Benchmarking etc. Hence most of the days, depending on client needs I work on the client deliverables for that particular day or week. Apart from that sometimes I accompany Ms. Bithika Anand, our Founder & CEO and sometimes other seniors to client meetings. In addition to client work we work on developing new products, and other upcoming initiatives of LLC.

     

    What are your thoughts on work-life balance? How do you achieve it yourself?

    Work- life balance is definitely of utmost importance to me. I would definitely need a day off from work to clean my apartment, wash clothes, cook some good food, relax, watch television and catch up with friends. At LLC 2nd and 4th Saturdays is off in addition to Sundays, which is good enough for me to relax. However, very rarely, you might have to attend some client meeting on a non-working Saturday or work towards completing some client deliverable… but that’s fine!

     

    What do you think is the future of Legal Management?

    The future of Legal Management is bright… in fact very bright. Almost every other day we have a new client (law firms, corporates, LPO’s, recently even an NGO) who has approached us for handling their various management related issues and needs. There is growing awareness and realization on the importance of management in runningone’s organization. As lawyers are busy with execution of law, they prefer to leave the day-to-day running and management of their organization to experts in the Management field.

     

    Where do you see yourself five years down the line? What kind of work will you like to do?

    Since I seem to be enjoying my job a lot, I certainly see myself as a Management Consultant… however, a much experienced and evolved professional. As I love doing more of HR work than Finance, I would like to specialize more in the HR related aspects.

     

    What do you do apart from work? How is the life of a law graduate in Delhi?

    I would prefer spending my off days at home either watching television, experimenting my culinary skills, reading books and sometimes meeting up with friends and not to forget shopping.

    Delhi is a wonderful place for youngsters. It offers a wide variety of options for all kinds of people. There are places to shop starting from your malls to Sarojini Nagar and the old Chandni Chowk, places to eat ranging from your Sheraton, Hauz Village, ParanteWaali gali and other street delicacies. For those who love Indian culture and history, there are remains of the past Mughal Rule in India which can be visited and many other places.

     

    Would you like to work for law firms as an associate in future?

    No, not at all.

    Last but not the least, what would be your message for law students?

    There is no reason why a law student will be interested in a message from me. But then if I had to say something, I would say enjoy every bit of your college life, because they are priceless and they will never come back to you. Once you are a professional you will yearn for that kind of time and fun.

    Also, don’t spend law school life just being bothered about internship and grades. Trust me, at the end of the day that hardly matters!