Today, with almost a decade of experience behind you, looking back, what first drew you to law, and how did your undergraduate years shape your interest in intellectual property and allied fields?
My journey into law was less of a direct calling and more a process of discovery. Back then, I was more defined by the career paths I was closing the door on, and law felt like a world of opportunity. I treated my classes as an exploration, searching for that one area that would genuinely resonate with me. That moment finally came late in law school when I was introduced to Intellectual Property. As a still-developing field, it felt exciting, but what really captivated me was the unique space where creativity and legal protection meet.
That curiosity turned into a passion during my first internship with Mr. Ameet Datta, (formerly a Partner at Saikrishna & Associates) now the Managing Counsel at ADP Law Offices. As I watched technology evolve and brands become more valuable, I realized just how vital IP is as a shield for innovation, ideas, and expression. It was that realization that truly set my career path.
You went on to pursue an LL.M. at the Munich Intellectual Property Law Centre, one of the most respected programs in the world. What motivated you to choose this course, and how did studying in such an international academic environment broaden your understanding of IP law? Could you also share how aspiring candidates can enrol in such a prestigious program?
You know, it’s funny, I was getting really into IP law, but I kept feeling like I was seeing everything through a keyhole. All the thinking, all the cases, were from my own country’s perspective, and I just had this nagging feeling that I was missing the bigger picture.
MIPL stood out because it is uniquely focused on IP and brings together expertise from leading institutions such as Max Planck and the University of Augsburg. The program offered not only academic rigor but also the opportunity to learn alongside peers from across the world, each bringing their own perspective and experience. This international exposure was invaluable, as it gave me a broader view of how IP is understood and applied across jurisdictions.
For aspiring candidates, I would say the most important step is to build a strong foundation in IP during undergraduate years and to engage actively with research and writing in the field. The selection process is competitive, but genuine interest, clarity of purpose, and prior work or academic contributions in IP can make a strong application.
Alongside your studies, you published articles on significant IP issues such as copyright royalties, broadcasting rights, and the recognition of “well-known” marks. What inspired you to explore these themes, and how do you see academic writing contributing both to your professional practice and to the wider discourse on IP law?
During my course (thanks to MIPLC), I realised that writing is one of the best ways to discipline one’s thoughts and meaningfully contribute to discussions in this field. As students, we are often trained to see issues from a purely academic perspective, where outcomes are framed as either right or wrong. What MIPLC taught me instead was that in law, nothing is absolutely right or wrong . Rather, it is the reasoning and interpretation that lends weight to a position. That shift in perspective stayed with me. At the time, I chose to write on subjects like copyright royalties, broadcasting rights, and well-known marks, not only because I was working on them closely, but also because they had direct implications for creators and businesses. Over the years, I have come to value writing even more as it contributes to the collective understanding of the profession and, at times, can influence how laws are read and applied. For me personally, it became a bridge between academic study and real-world practice.
You began your professional career with Saikrishna & Associates, where you grew into the role of Senior Associate. Could you share some defining experiences from this phase whether in trademark prosecution, IP litigation, or consumer protection that played a key role in shaping your growth as a lawyer?
My early years at Saikrishna & Associates were deeply rooted in IP litigation, where I had the chance to work on matters that were both complex and high-stakes. Most of my focus was on IP disputes, and I was fortunate to work alongside some of the sharpest minds in the field. Those years gave me invaluable exposure from the intensity of courtroom practice and the rush of filings, to client interactions and my own growth as a lawyer.
Another significant phase of my career was in consumer protection, where I was entrusted with leading a team for a leading mobile manufacturer. The role required me to think beyond just the legal arguments, it was about strategy, execution, and making sure the client’s interests were protected at every stage. What stayed with me from that experience was not just tackling the legal issues, but also learning how to manage a team, set direction, and maintain consistency across multiple jurisdictions. That combination of leading people while steering complex matters was a real turning point in my professional journey and continues to shape the way I approach cases even today.
Over the years, you have gained exposure to diverse domains such as trade regulatory compliance, consumer law, employment disputes, and arbitration. How has this multidisciplinary experience been beneficial to handle complex, multi-jurisdictional matters for global clients? What sector-specific challenges have you faced while dealing with arbitrations for international clients?
My experience across these different domains has taught me that client issues rarely fit into neat legal boxes. What I have found, especially with complex, multi-jurisdictional matters, is that an issue that begins as a regulatory query can quickly intersect with consumer law or have employment implications. Having that broad background helped me to connect those dots early on. Instead of looking at a problem from a single perspective, I can anticipate how it might evolve and build a more resilient strategy for the client, which is essential when you’re navigating different legal cultures.
In arbitration, I have seen how sector-specific challenges can shape the course of proceedings. For example, in matters involving international clients, aligning the expectations of different legal systems with the procedural framework of arbitration requires careful navigation. There are also cultural and commercial nuances that need to be factored in, since what is persuasive in one jurisdiction may not resonate the same way in another. Learning to manage these differences while keeping the client’s broader objectives in mind has been an important part of my journey.
In your current role, what inspired your transition, and how are you approaching the leadership responsibilities of managing large-scale IP litigation campaigns and advising clients across multiple industries? What essential qualities do you look for when building your team?
The transition into my current role has been quite recent, so in many ways it is still a process of learning, adapting, and growing into the responsibilities that come with it. What inspired the move was the opportunity to work more closely with clients on a larger scale, not just on individual disputes but in shaping their overall IP strategy and helping them navigate complex litigation campaigns.
When it comes to leadership, especially on these large campaigns, my philosophy is pretty simple: give people a clear map and a good compass, then trust them to navigate their part of the journey. My main job is to make sure everyone understands the ‘why’ behind what we’re doing, the client’s ultimate goal. Once that vision is shared, I find the best results come from giving talented people the autonomy and support they need to truly own their work. It’s about guiding the strategy without micromanaging the execution.
As for building a team, a strong resume is just the start. I look for a certain mindset. I want people who are naturally curious, the ones who are always asking “what if?” because that’s how you stay ahead in a field like IP. I also look for a deep sense of accountability, where people treat a client’s problem as if it were their own. But above all, I look for a genuine collaborative spirit. A high-stakes litigation campaign is a team sport, and you need people who instinctively pick each other up and push each other to be better, especially when the pressure is on. That’s the kind of team that truly succeeds.
Looking back on your journey from law school to partnership, what key values have remained constant? What advice would you give to young lawyers aspiring to build a career in intellectual property especially when it comes to balancing deep subject expertise with the ability to adapt to rapidly changing technological and regulatory landscapes?
Looking back, the values that have remained constant for me are sincerity, consistency, and respect for the profession. No matter the stage of my career, I have found that showing up prepared, being thorough, and treating people with fairness has gone a long way in building trust with clients, colleagues, and even opponents in litigation. These values have shaped not only the way I work but also the way I lead. For young lawyers interested in IP, my advice would be to build a strong foundation in the subject while also remaining open to change. IP is deeply linked with creativity and technology, both of which are evolving faster than ever. The ability to understand new industries, learn continuously, and adapt legal thinking to new realities will make a significant difference. At the same time, it is important to stay grounded in the basics, because strong fundamentals are what allow you to adapt with confidence. If you combine deep subject knowledge with curiosity and flexibility, you can find a very rewarding path in IP law.
What motivated you to pursue a career in law, and what inspired you to choose the B.P.Sc (Hons.) LLB (Business Law Hons.) program at National Law University, Jodhpur? Looking back at your law school years, what are some key experiences that have had a lasting impact on you?
Growing up, I admired my father, a police personnel, whose commitment to justice and integrity deeply influenced me. Watching him serve the people with courage and dedication inspired me to pursue a career in law. Additionally, I was fascinated by courtroom dramas and legal stories portrayed in movies, which sparked my curiosity about the legal system and advocacy.
I chose the B.P.Sc (Hons.) LLB (Business Law Hons.) program at National Law University, Jodhpur, because I was deeply interested in subjects like Political Science, Sociology, and Psychology. Their focus on understanding human behavior, societal dynamics, and governance aligned perfectly with my passion for law and justice. This interdisciplinary approach not only matched my interests but also provided a strong foundation for pursuing a career in law. During my law school years, participating in moot courts, insightful internships, and collaborating on research projects helped me develop strong analytical and advocacy skills. These experiences, combined with my early inspirations, shaped my approach to solving complex legal challenges.
How did your early experiences at A&A Law Office, particularly in corporate and project finance, contribute to shaping your understanding of joint ventures, regulatory frameworks, and due diligence in commercial transactions?
My early experiences at A&A Law Office played a crucial role in shaping my understanding of joint ventures, regulatory frameworks, due diligence, and intellectual property in commercial transactions. As it was a small law firm, I was involved in a wide range of legal work, from corporate and project finance to intellectual property matters. This exposure taught me how to assess risks, navigate complex regulatory requirements, and ensure IP protection. These experiences provided a solid foundation for strategic legal advisory and commercial law dynamics.
How has your expertise in intellectual property law influenced your corporate advisory work, particularly when handling trademarks, copyrights, and design matters? What are your thoughts on the future evolution of intellectual property rights in the coming years?
My expertise in intellectual property law has significantly influenced my corporate advisory work, especially when handling trademarks, copyrights, and design matters. It enables me to provide strategic guidance on brand protection, licensing, and enforcement, ensuring clients’ intellectual assets are safeguarded while maximizing commercial value. This knowledge also enhances contract drafting, due diligence, and risk assessment in corporate transactions.
Additionally, being a member of some of the world’s most prestigious organizations, such as the International Trademark Association (INTA), International Association for the Protection of Intellectual Property (AIPPI), Asian Patent Attorneys Association (APAA), and World Intellectual Property Forum (WIPF), has significantly contributed to my professional growth. These memberships have provided valuable opportunities to engage with global legal experts, stay updated on international IP trends, and expand my professional network. They have also enhanced my strategic insights and knowledge, enabling me to offer well-rounded and globally relevant legal advice.
Looking ahead, I believe the rapid growth of digital commerce and emerging technologies like AI and blockchain will redefine IP rights. This evolution will demand adaptive legal strategies, international collaboration, and enhanced regulatory frameworks to address complex cross-border IP issues.
Drawing from your experience in the real estate sector, what were some of the most difficult aspects of drafting and negotiating construction contracts and joint development agreements?
Drawing from my experience in the real estate sector, some of the most challenging aspects of drafting and negotiating construction contracts and joint development agreements involved navigating complex regulatory compliance, risk allocation, and aligning the interests of multiple stakeholders. Ensuring clear terms on project timelines, payment structures, and liability clauses required meticulous attention to detail. Additionally, balancing legal safeguards with commercial feasibility while managing client expectations demanded strategic negotiation skills and effective communication. These challenges enhanced my problem-solving abilities and contract management expertise.
Could you describe one of the most challenging cases you’ve handled so far and share your approach to navigating the complexities involved in that case?
One of the most challenging cases I handled involved complex intellectual property litigation with cross-border implications. It required navigating conflicting jurisdictional laws and strategic enforcement of trademark rights. To manage this, I conducted in-depth legal research, collaborated with international counsel, and crafted adaptive litigation strategies to protect client interests. I focused on proactive risk management and effective communication to resolve disputes efficiently. This experience reinforced the importance of strategic foresight, agility, and resilience in high-stakes legal matters.
What are some of the major challenges that businesses in the real estate sector are facing today? Additionally, how has the role of arbitration and other alternative dispute resolution (ADR) mechanisms evolved in this sector?
Businesses in the real estate sector today face challenges like regulatory complexities, fluctuating market dynamics, land acquisition disputes, and financing constraints. Navigating compliance with environmental laws and urban development regulations also adds to the complexity.
Arbitration and other Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) mechanisms have become increasingly popular in this sector due to their cost-effectiveness and faster resolution compared to traditional litigation. ADR provides flexibility, confidentiality, and specialized expertise, making it a preferred choice for resolving real estate disputes efficiently.
As someone who has played a pivotal role in high-stakes cases as both a Partner and Counsel, what do you think is the most crucial skill that law students should focus on developing to succeed in the legal field? Also, are there any resources you would recommend to help them stay updated on legal trends and developments?
The most crucial skill for law students is strategic legal analysis combined with effective communication. They should also develop negotiation skills, adaptability to emerging technologies, and resilience in high-pressure situations. Writing articles, case notes, and thought leadership pieces not only sharpens analytical abilities but also enhances visibility in the legal community.
I have authored over 20 publications in reputed journals, which has significantly contributed to my understanding of complex legal issues and trends. To stay updated on legal trends, I recommend using LinkedIn for networking and industry insights. Resources like CiteCase, Bar and Bench, Live Law, Manupatra, and College Law Review Journals provide comprehensive legal updates, case analyses, and emerging legal issues. Engaging with these platforms helps build a strong foundation and keeps one informed about the latest legal developments.
Given the demanding nature of your professional commitments, how do you manage to strike a balance between your work responsibilities and personal life?
Balancing professional commitments with personal life is achievable through strategic time management and leveraging technology. I have automated my legal processes and maintain a paperless office, enabling me to work efficiently from anywhere as a mobile lawyer. This flexibility allows me to manage tasks on the go while staying organized and responsive. By embracing digital tools and maintaining a disciplined schedule, I maximize productivity while also ensuring time for personal well-being and family, achieving a harmonious work-life balance.
Could you kindly share the insights and experiences you’ve gained throughout your entrepreneurial journey?
In addition to my legal career, I have always been passionate about entrepreneurship. I founded InCourt News in 2015, which gained recognition as one of the best mobile applications to have, featured in various magazines for its innovative approach to legal news delivery, and was later acquired by a legal marketplace. I also ventured into the skilling sector with “Skill Funds,” founding startups aligned with the Skill India Mission, aimed at empowering youth with industry-relevant skills. These experiences have enriched my leadership abilities, strategic vision, and problem-solving skills, complementing my legal expertise with an entrepreneurial mindset. Currently, I am running my law firm, Lex Praxis, leveraging my diverse experiences to provide strategic legal solutions.
With your vast experience and accomplishments in the legal field, could you share what initially sparked your interest in law? Was there a defining moment that led you to pursue this career, and what drew you specifically to specialize in intellectual property law?
The greatest reason or inspiration for taking up law was my maternal grandfather who came from a family having many generations of lawyers including his father and uncles. My grandfather was himself a lawyer by qualification but joined the Sales Tax Department and retired as Commissioner of Sales Tax, Government of Maharashtra. He was extremely passionate about law and on behalf of the Sales Tax Department, briefed and closely interacted with many distinguished lawyers of his time including the then Advocate General Mr. H. M. Seervai whom he deeply admired. The countless anecdotes he narrated to me and the zeal he had for the legal profession had a profound impact on me, unknowingly and when the time came for me to choose my profession, law came as a natural choice.
While Law was in the family, Music, Literature and Art also ran deeply in my family, my mother being a Hindustani Classical Vocalist and my grandmother, a vocalist, poet, playwright and writer. They would often participate in seminars on copyright in relation to the fields of music, literature and art. I would accompany them and listen to the sessions with great interest. That sparked my curiosity and by the time I completed my graduation in law, I found IP to be a fascinating and an ever-evolving subject having an application across industries and I was convinced to take it up as my field of specialization.
You began your career as an Associate with a law firm. What were some of the key experiences during this early phase that helped deepen your understanding of the law, especially intellectual property law, and laid a solid foundation for your expertise in this area?
I began my career with a full-service law firm Desai & Diwanji where I mainly worked on corporate and commercial transactions. My experience in intellectual property law began when I joined my present firm in the year 2008. Exposure to myriad cases in the areas of IP prosecution, legal advisory, contentious matters, anti-counterfeiting, IP transactions etc. involving different kinds of IP including trade marks, copyright, designs and some aspects of patents, right in the beginning of my tenure, gave me many opportunities to research, learn, resolve issues and deepen my understanding of the subject. Also, I firmly believe that there can be no substitute for hard work in laying a strong foundation, especially in the initial years of your career. I spent a lot of time reading, researching, studying the suggestions of my seniors and colleagues which I continue to do as learning is a never-ending process and updating yourself from time to time ensures you never feel complacent or stagnant.
Throughout your career, you have worked on complex IP transactions in industries such as media, entertainment, pharmaceuticals, and FMCG. What do you believe are the primary challenges businesses face when dealing with commercial transactions involving IP rights?
As for already existing IP of the parties involved, gaps in IP ownership, lack of proper documentation for securing IP rights, third party claims to IP, vulnerability of registered IP to revocation are some challenges seen in commercial transactions involving IP rights. Similarly, while negotiating strategic collaborations or service contracts, differentiating between already existing IP and IP generated under the contract, deciding upon an ownership structure for the IP generated out of such services or collaboration could be challenging.
Your experience spans both domestic and cross-border IP disputes. How do international IP issues differ from domestic ones?
IP disputes per se, such as infringement, passing off etc., governed by Indian laws and taking place in India may not have material differences only by reason of one of the parties being a foreign entity. However, where these disputes emerge from cross-border contracts governed by foreign laws and have elements of IP protectable or enforceable under Indian laws, there could be challenges. Similarly, when an Indian entity wishes to enforce its IP rights against a foreign entity for acts done outside India, foreign laws may apply. Although IP laws worldwide have many commonalities, they are not completely harmonized. Concepts of authorship, ownership of IP, infringement, exceptions to infringement, availability of overlapping protection under different types of IP laws such as Copyright & Designs or Trade Mark & Designs, subject-matter of trade marks, copyright, designs or patents (more so in light of emerging technologies) might vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Accordingly, these disputes may have different nuances.
Could you share your insights from handling domain name disputes under ICANN’s UDRP? In addition, what role does arbitration play in resolving international IP disputes, particularly within frameworks like the ICC?
The domain name dispute resolution process under ICANN’s UDRP is effective particularly when disputes arise out of cybersquatting or prima facie bad faith registration of domain names. In my experience, this process has been cost effective, expeditious and helpful especially where the adverse party is not located in India or where the registrant’s name and address is not disclosed by domain name registrars. Institutional arbitration, such as under the ICC Rules, plays an important role in resolving multi-jurisdictional / international IP disputes. However, these are typically disputes arising out of contracts and lawyers play a crucial role in informing the arbitrator (who may be qualified in laws other than the governing law of the contract) of nuances in the laws that are applicable to the dispute.
Intellectual property is often crucial in mergers, acquisitions, and private equity transactions. How do you ensure that IP rights are effectively safeguarded during these processes, and what is their role in such transactions?
Intellectual property is often the driving force for most acquisitions, mergers and collaborations. Effectively identifying IP, particularly unregistered IP, ensuring a proper and seamless transfer of all IP, registered or unregistered in favor of the acquirer, designing an efficient IP matrix in cases of joint IP ownership / collaboration, identifying third party contribution, claims or rights in IP creation and devising appropriate techniques to secure all IPR through documentation and statutory filings are some aspects to be considered during such transactions.
What advice would you offer to aspiring IP lawyers or those considering a career in intellectual property law? Also, could you share some resources or strategies you use to stay current with global legal trends, particularly in the IP domain?
To aspiring IP lawyers, I would like to say that IP is a fascinating subject having many dimensions and is ever evolving particularly with newer and emerging technologies. IPR is relevant across industries and with the growing awareness of IP, career opportunities in this field are increasing. You could choose sub-areas of your interest to practice such as IP prosecution, litigation or transactions and advisory. However, aiming for holistic exposure to various kinds of IP cases especially in the initial years will certainly help in the long run. Needless to say, like in any other field, hard work and a well-balanced approach helps one grow in the profession and also as an individual. These days there are several online platforms, newsletters, digital publications and media offering information and updates on IP related transactions and disputes, both domestic and international. There are also many subscription-based databases where one can find articles, copies of judgments and orders for detailed reading.
Was pursuing law a deliberate choice for you, or did it evolve into your chosen career over time?
Pursuing law was the result of an evolving journey shaped by both destiny and conscious choice. Coming from a family of legal stalwarts, I grew up immersed in the world of law. Intense debates—ranging from courtroom strategies to ethical dilemmas—were a regular feature of our dinner-table conversations. While these discussions planted a seed of curiosity, I wasn’t immediately certain that law would be my path. My early years were marked by explorations in diverse fields, from economics to business, as I searched for a career that combined intellectual stimulation with a meaningful societal impact. It was during this exploration that I realized the unique power of the law. It offered not just a way to understand the complexities of human behavior and governance but also a means to address injustice and drive positive change.
Your career includes training under Mr. Harish Salve in 2012 and working with Sr. Adv. Shyam Divan from 2012-2015. How did these varied experiences shape your approach to legal strategy and advocacy? What key lessons from these roles have influenced your current practice?
Working with legal stalwarts like Mr. Harish Salve and Mr. Shyam Divan was akin to being immersed in a legal crucible—intense, demanding, and transformative. Under Mr. Salve’s mentorship, I had the privilege of witnessing some of the most intricate legal battles, including the Vodafone tax case. Watching him distill the complexities of international tax law into a compelling narrative taught me a foundational truth: advocacy is as much about storytelling as it is about precision. The ability to craft a persuasive argument lies in presenting the law as a relatable, logical story.
With Mr. Divan, the experience was equally inspiring but with a different focus. He emphasized the ethical dimensions of advocacy, championing causes like environmental protection and public interest. His approach reinforced the idea that law isn’t just about winning but about serving a larger purpose. These formative years grounded me in the importance of not just skillful argumentation but also principled advocacy.
In 2015, I joined Agarwal Law Associates and had the privilege of working in the High Court team under Mr. Rishi Aggarwal. This role gave me a hands-on understanding of the complete lifecycle of a case-from meticulous drafting to effective courtroom strategy. It was a masterclass in building cases from the ground up and developing the confidence to tackle complex legal issues.
My time as Additional Standing Counsel for Government of NCT which began in 2023 has been starkly different yet an equally enriching chapter. It requires navigating the delicate balance between policy-making and legal frameworks. This role has sharpened my sense of diplomacy and pragmatism, as it often involves reconciling competing interests while staying within the boundaries of law. It has also taught me the value of adaptability—essential for a litigator handling varied and dynamic challenges.
While litigation demands technical expertise, it also requires understanding the human element—the psychology of clients, the mood of the courtroom, and the pulse of a judge. Recognizing these subtleties has been crucial in my practice. In essence, these varied experiences have not only shaped my approach to legal strategy and advocacy but have also instilled in me the humility to learn, the courage to innovate, and the discipline to strive for excellence every single day.
Anyone starting off must get all different kinds of flavours before charting out their own journey either as corporate, litigating advocate or an In-house counsel. I guess it’s a matter of identifying your strengths and weaknesses and personality traits and chart upon your own journey – As they say one man’s vulgarity is another man’s lyric!!
As the Additional Advocate General for Karnataka, you represent the state in significant legal matters before the courts. Can you share some challenges you have faced in this capacity, and what your approach is in complex constitutional or administrative matters?
Representing a state is an overwhelming responsibility. It transcends the goal of securing legal victories and focuses on safeguarding the public interest while upholding the fundamental principles of the Constitution. Every case carries weight, but some test the limits of your expertise and commitment. Among the most challenging matters I’ve handled was an essential policy dispute that put the delicate balance between federalism and state autonomy to the test. The stakes were monumental, and the case required a comprehensive examination of constitutional provisions, a thorough study of historical jurisprudence, and an acute understanding of the potential societal and economic ripple effects our stance could create.
In tackling such high-stakes issues, my approach is deeply rooted in preparation and collaboration. It begins with an exhaustive analysis of the legal framework, ensuring that every aspect of the matter is understood in its entirety. I place great emphasis on engaging in intense, constructive discussions with my colleagues, leveraging their perspectives to build a stronger case. Anticipation is key—I work tirelessly to predict and prepare for potential questions or arguments that may arise, whether from opposing counsel or the judiciary.
The stakes in such state matters are undeniably high. Yet, the challenges come with an unparalleled sense of fulfillment. Contributing to the larger public good, shaping the course of policy, and upholding the ideals of justice are not just professional achievements—they are deeply personal rewards. This is what fuels my passion and dedication to the role, even in the face of its inherent complexities and pressures.
After gaining experience with prominent figures in the legal field, what motivated you to establish your own practice? What challenges did you face in the early stages of building your own practice?
Starting my own practice felt like jumping off a cliff with the hope of building wings on the way down. The motivation? A burning desire to step out of the shadows and craft my own identity in the legal world. I wanted the freedom to choose my battles, shape my approach to justice, and make a meaningful impact on both public and private interests. I’ve always relished diving deep into the complexities of law, even when it meant hitting roadblocks that tested my patience and resolve.
The early days were a whirlwind of excitement and uncertainty. Earning the trust of clients was daunting—people place their faith in your expertise, and you have to prove your worth every single day. Building a competent team was another challenge; finding individuals who shared my vision and drive took time. Then there was the steep learning curve of managing finances and the logistics of running a practice—it felt like constructing a skyscraper, laying one brick at a time with no blueprint in sight.
But every challenge taught me something invaluable. I learned resilience, adaptability, and the power of persistence. Those early struggles also revealed the importance of collaboration, mentorship, and an unwavering commitment to excellence. Gradually, what started as a daunting endeavor evolved into a fulfilling journey. My practice became more than just a professional commitment—it became a platform to explore complex legal issues, fight for justice, and pursue both commercial and public interest work.
In hindsight, those early challenges weren’t just obstacles; they were stepping stones. They shaped me into a more nuanced and versatile practitioner, giving me a deeper appreciation for the law and its potential to transform lives. Starting my own practice wasn’t just a career move—it was a leap of faith that helped me grow in ways I never imagined.
As an independent private practitioner, you specialize in a range of areas such as commercial disputes, company law, IP, and insolvency matters. How do you prioritize cases across such diverse fields, and how do you manage the intricacies of each area in your practice?
Managing a practice that spans diverse legal fields is like orchestrating a symphony—each area has its distinct tempo and complexity, but success lies in achieving harmony. Prioritizing cases depends on several factors: urgency, the potential impact on the client, and the complexity of the legal issues involved. For example, commercial disputes often require quick, strategic interventions to minimize business disruptions, whereas insolvency matters demand meticulous analysis of financial details and legal frameworks to ensure equitable outcomes.
My approach blends specialization with adaptability. Each area brings its own challenges—intellectual property law requires creativity and a nuanced understanding of innovation, while company law involves intricate knowledge of corporate governance and compliance. The key is to immerse myself fully in the specifics of each case, tailoring my strategy to the unique demands of the matter at hand.
To manage such a dynamic practice, I maintain a disciplined workflow. This includes leveraging the expertise of a talented team, continuously updating my knowledge of legal developments, and maintaining a client-focused approach. Staying informed about the latest rulings, legislative changes, and industry trends is non-negotiable—it allows me to provide solutions that are not just legally sound but also practically effective.
Ultimately, this multidisciplinary approach ensures that I can navigate the intricacies of each field while delivering cohesive, impactful results for my clients. It’s this balance between specialization and versatility that defines my practice and keeps me motivated to tackle challenges across the legal spectrum.
Your practice spans both private commercial litigation and government representation. How do you approach preparing and arguing cases for the government, especially in sensitive constitutional matters or PILs? Can you share a particularly challenging case with us?
Preparing for government cases requires carefully balancing social, legal, and policy considerations. Take, for instance, petitions involving land acquisition and compensation issues. The core challenge lies in reconciling public interest with the protection of individual rights. These cases demand not only a deep understanding of constitutional safeguards but also a keen awareness of the socio-economic implications of governmental policies.
In such matters, my strategy revolves around crafting nuanced arguments that respect individual rights while emphasizing the broader public good. This involves meticulously analyzing legal precedents, assessing the societal impact of proposed actions, and ensuring that the state’s position aligns with constitutional principles. These cases push you to think beyond the technicalities of law. They require engaging with the larger societal context, understanding the effects of policy decisions, and striving to find solutions that uphold justice for all stakeholders. It’s this interplay between law and societal concerns that makes such cases both challenging and profoundly fulfilling.
I have been privileged to contribute to causes that hold immense significance, including public health, environmental protection, and the prevention of animal cruelty. These endeavors have given me a deep sense of pride and fulfillment, allowing me to serve as a responsible and conscientious citizen of India.
That said, public interest litigation is a powerful tool but one that is often misused. It must be exercised sparingly and only in truly exceptional circumstances where the cause is both genuine and pursued with unwavering sincerity, passion, and integrity. PILs should always prioritize the ultimate beneficiary—public interest—and must never be driven by personal motives or frivolous intentions. When used responsibly, they can be a transformative force for justice and societal progress.
You’ve been involved in pro bono work, particularly in areas like animal welfare and environmental law. Can you discuss your motivation and how you balance such work with your high-profile commercial litigation practice?
Pro bono work is not just a professional obligation; it is a personal calling. Causes like animal welfare and environmental conservation resonate with my belief in the law as an instrument of social change. These cases often demand creativity and passion rather than resources, and the satisfaction they bring is unparalleled. Balancing this with commercial litigation is a matter of discipline and prioritization. I view pro bono work as an opportunity to give back to society, and it fuels my sense of purpose even amidst the rigors of high-stakes litigation.
Having worked on several high-profile cases involving major corporations, how do you approach the strategy for such complex matters, particularly those with significant commercial implications?
High-profile corporate cases are a testament to the art of legal strategy, demanding both precision and adaptability. Each case begins with a critical step: deconstructing intricate transactions and factual matrices into manageable and comprehensible components. The ability to simplify the seemingly convoluted comes with experience and continuous learning—a process I embrace daily. The sheer exposure these cases offer is a remarkable opportunity to deepen one’s understanding of the law and its real-world applications.
Once the foundation is clear, the focus shifts to identifying potential legal risks, predicting opposing arguments, and crafting a strategy that not only protects the client’s interests but also aligns seamlessly with their commercial objectives. This requires a deep dive into the nuances of the case, backed by meticulous research and a robust understanding of the relevant legal framework.
Collaboration is another cornerstone of my approach. High-profile matters often span multiple disciplines—finance, technology, regulatory compliance, and more. Partnering with domain experts ensures that every angle is considered, enabling the development of innovative legal solutions tailored to the client’s needs. For instance, in cases involving regulatory complexities, understanding the finer details of compliance is as crucial as interpreting the law itself. Equally important is clear communication. In high-stakes matters, ensuring that clients, stakeholders, and the legal team are aligned is paramount. Breaking down legal strategies into actionable insights allows clients to make informed decisions, fostering trust and confidence.
Above all, my approach is guided by an unwavering commitment to ethical standards. Protecting the client’s interests is always the priority, but it must never come at the expense of integrity or the larger principles of justice. The intersection of law and business in such cases is both challenging and rewarding, offering the opportunity to create meaningful and impactful outcomes.
Given the high demands of your legal career, how do you balance your professional responsibilities with personal obligations? What strategies do you use to recharge and stay motivated in your work?
The idea of a perfect work-life balance in the legal profession is, in many ways, a myth. As a litigator, the demands are relentless—requiring an unwavering commitment of passion, intellect, and hard work. There are times when family commitments inevitably take a back seat. Let’s be clear: the profession isn’t for the faint-hearted. It calls for sacrifice, and the stakes are high.
That said, it’s not all about unyielding work. I make a conscious effort to find pockets of time to recharge, especially during court recesses or when the case load allows for a break. These moments, though brief, are invaluable. I use them to reconnect with loved ones, dive into a good book, or engage in enriching conversations that allow me to step away from the legal grind and reset mentally.
The motivation to keep going despite the pressures lies in the profound impact of the work I do. There is an undeniable sense of fulfillment in knowing that my efforts contribute to justice, the rule of law, and societal progress. This sense of purpose is what fuels my passion and drives me forward, even when the demands are at their peak.
Ultimately, while work-life balance may be elusive, the positive influence of my work serves as the ultimate form of professional satisfaction, and that is what keeps me motivated and committed to my craft.
You have been involved in training sessions with Senior Advocates and Judges. How do you approach mentoring young lawyers, and what advice would you offer to aspiring lawyers who hope to achieve success in the legal profession?
Mentoring young lawyers is one of the most rewarding aspects of my career. I view it as both a responsibility and a privilege. In my mentorship, I encourage young lawyers to embrace the challenges that the profession presents. Every case, every legal question, is an opportunity for growth. I stress the importance of developing strong critical thinking skills and cultivating a deep, insatiable curiosity for the law. It is this curiosity that drives innovation and fuels the passion necessary to succeed in such a demanding field.
For aspiring lawyers, my advice is straightforward but vital: never stop learning, stay persistent, and, above all, practice with humility and integrity. The road to success in law is rarely quick or easy. It is a journey that is built brick by brick, requiring dedication, resilience, and a constant commitment to justice. The legal profession rewards those who approach it with patience and diligence, knowing that each case and each experience contributes to a greater understanding of the law.
Looking ahead, I also believe that technology, particularly AI, will play an increasingly significant role in the legal field. Just as technology has already transformed legal research and case management, I’m confident that AI will continue to aid lawyers in refining their practice. Lawyers who embrace these advancements and use them effectively will not only enhance their own productivity but also improve the quality of service they provide to their clients. The key is adapting to these changes and harnessing the power of technology to make the most of your time and expertise.
Ultimately, mentoring is about instilling young lawyers and colleagues with the belief that success is not just about winning cases but about making a meaningful impact, continuously learning, and striving to elevate the practice of law to its highest ideals. We are constantly learning on a daily basis, knowledge must be imbued and absorbed with great hunger and passion.
With over 10 years of experience, can you tell us what inspired you to pursue law and why did you choose to pursue such a diverse range of legal areas?
Accidentally, I stumbled into the field of law abandoning my Chartered Accountancy course after meeting Shri Ahmed Shareef. Watching him handle cases with exceptional skill, wisdom, and the sheer class of advocacy left a profound impression on me. That moment sparked a deep-seated passion for justice and advocacy, and I was inspired to follow in his footsteps, with a clear vision of becoming an advocate of his caliber. From a young age, I was naturally inclined towards using my voice to help others. Whether in school or clubs, I excelled in debating and elocution, winning numerous state and national-level medals. These innate skills, combined with the inspiration I drew from Shri Ahmed Shareef when I began my legal journey, further fueled my commitment to the profession. Over time, I came to appreciate the transformative power of advocacy and the legal system in shaping lives and communities, solidifying my dedication to this path.
The diverse range of legal areas I chose to specialize in stems from the foundational experience I gained under my senior, who had a remarkably varied practice. This early exposure instilled in me the belief that every case is an opportunity to grow, learn, and make a meaningful impact. Over the years, I have had the privilege of working with clients from diverse backgrounds, each presenting unique legal challenges. This inspired me to broaden my expertise, allowing me to approach cases with creativity and provide tailored solutions. Whether it’s civil law, family law, criminal law, corporate law, or even sports law—a specialization that I developed in 2020—I have embraced the variety of challenges with enthusiasm. Ultimately, I find immense satisfaction in the diversity and complexity of my work. It is deeply rewarding to guide individuals and organizations through pivotal moments in their lives, making a tangible difference through my practice. My father, Shri M.M. Pasha, a practicing lawyer in Andhra Pradesh, has been a significant source of inspiration and mentorship. He often emphasized that a strong case is built not just on sound legal principles but on a deep and thorough understanding of the facts.
You began your career working with a prominent Senior Advocate. Can you share some of your experiences or lessons from the time that have shaped your legal practice?
Beginning my career under the mentorship of the esteemed Senior Advocate Shri Ahmed Shareef was one of the most transformative experiences of my life. It gave me a front-row seat to the intricacies of the legal profession and a profound understanding of the depth and complexity of our judicial system. Working alongside someone of his caliber imparted invaluable lessons that continue to influence and refine my approach to law and advocacy to this day.
One of the most valuable lessons I learned early in my career was the importance of meticulous preparation. Observing my father, I realized the transformative power of painstaking preparation—whether it meant poring over volumes of evidence or meticulously researching precedents. This habit of leaving no detail overlooked, regardless of how routine a matter might seem, has become a cornerstone of my practice. Another defining influence was watching my senior, Shri Ahmed Shareef, in action. Observing his mastery of courtroom advocacy, I saw how clarity, precision, and persuasiveness could turn even the most challenging arguments into compelling ones. Both my father and my senior exemplified the art of tailoring arguments to their audience—whether addressing a judge or engaging with opposing counsel—without ever compromising integrity or substance. Their example taught me that effective advocacy is as much about understanding people as it is about understanding the law, a principle that continues to guide me in every case I undertake.
I also gained profound insights into the significance of ethical practice during my formative years. My mentor consistently emphasized the immense responsibility that comes with being an officer of the court. Upholding honesty, safeguarding client confidentiality, and approaching every case with the seriousness it deserves were values deeply instilled in me during that time. These principles have not only shaped my professional conduct but have also been instrumental in building enduring trust with clients and maintaining credibility within the legal community.
One of the most impactful lessons I learned was the art of balancing empathy with objectivity. Working on cases involving deeply personal matters—such as family disputes, criminal defense, or civil rights issues—showed me how my mentor approached clients with genuine compassion while maintaining the professional detachment required to provide sound and effective advice. This ability to connect with clients on a human level while staying focused on their legal needs has been a guiding principle in my practice, and it’s something I strive to emulate every day.
Lastly, the diverse range of cases I was exposed to during that time proved to be invaluable. From intricate constitutional matters to high-stakes commercial disputes, I had the privilege of observing how the law operates across a variety of domains. This experience highlighted the interconnectedness of legal issues and broadened my perspective on the multifaceted nature of the legal profession. It also inspired me to pursue a diverse range of practice areas in my own career, enriching my ability to approach cases holistically and adapt to the unique challenges each one presents.
In hindsight, those early years were more than just a learning experience—they were a foundation for my growth as a lawyer. They shaped my work ethic, sharpened my analytical skills, and deepened my commitment to serving clients with integrity and excellence. I remain incredibly grateful for the mentorship I received, and the lessons I learned continue to influence my approach to the law every day.
Given your diverse practice in areas such as Civil Litigation, Family Law, Consumer Law, IPR, and more, how do you stay informed about the evolving trends in the legal field?
“Practicing across diverse legal areas such as Civil Litigation, Family Law, Consumer Law, and Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) demands not only expertise but also a commitment to continuous learning. The legal field evolves constantly, shaped by new legislation, judicial precedents, societal shifts, and technological advancements. To stay ahead, I have developed a structured and multifaceted approach to staying informed about these trends:
I dedicate time to stay up-to-date with the latest judgments and rulings from courts at all levels, from trial courts to the Supreme Court. Reading legal journals, case law digests, and authoritative commentary helps me understand emerging trends and their implications across different areas of practice. In areas like IPR, where technology and innovation play a significant role, I follow international developments closely, particularly in jurisdictions like the U.S. and EU, which often set global benchmarks.
Engaging with fellow practitioners, academics, and industry professionals through bar associations, legal forums, and conferences is another key strategy. These interactions often provide practical insights into how new trends are being applied and interpreted in real-world scenarios. Collaborative discussions also expose me to diverse perspectives that enrich my understanding of complex legal issues.
Lastly, listening to my clients and understanding their evolving needs is one of the most practical ways to stay informed. Whether it’s a family law client navigating modern parenting arrangements or a business client concerned about data privacy laws, their concerns often signal broader trends in the legal landscape.
By combining these strategies, I ensure that I remain well-informed and capable of delivering high-quality, forward-looking legal services. In an ever-changing legal world, adaptability and a commitment to lifelong learning are not just beneficial—they are essential.”
Given your experience in both corporate law and civil litigation, what has been one of the most memorable or challenging cases you’ve worked on in your career, and how did you prepare for such a challenging case?
“One of the most memorable and challenging cases I worked on involved a high-stakes corporate dispute between two major shareholders of a multinational company. The case revolved around allegations of financial mismanagement, and a contested merger that threatened to dismantle the company’s operations in a key market. This matter was significant not only because of the financial implications but also due to the reputational stakes for both parties and the broader impact on employees and stakeholders.
From the outset, I understood that thorough preparation would be the key to navigating such a complex case. My team and I began by meticulously analyzing thousands of pages of financial records, board meeting minutes, and correspondence to uncover patterns and discrepancies. We worked closely with forensic accountants and industry experts to strengthen our understanding of the technical details and build a compelling narrative around our client’s claims.
Legal research played a critical role as well. Since the case involved cross-border elements, we needed to familiarize ourselves with applicable laws in multiple jurisdictions, ensuring our strategy aligned with both domestic and international regulations. This required collaborating with foreign counsel to address jurisdictional issues and compliance requirements.
What was your motivation behind establishing your own practice with MP Legal and what were some of the key challenges in expanding your firm?
In the year 2020, establishing my own practice with MP Legal was both a deeply personal decision and a professional aspiration. After years of working under experienced mentors and gaining exposure to various facets of law, I felt ready to carve out a space where I could apply my own vision and values to legal practice. My primary motivation was to create a firm that prioritized not just legal excellence but also a client-centric approach, addressing their needs holistically and with empathy.
1.Desire for Independence and Innovation:
I wanted the freedom to shape a practice that reflected my philosophy of law—one that combined technical precision with accessibility and innovation. By establishing MP Legal, I could focus on fostering meaningful client relationships, exploring diverse practice areas, and developing creative solutions to complex legal issues.
2. A Diverse and Inclusive Practice:
Having worked across Civil Litigation, Family Law, Sports law, Consumer Law, Intellectual Property Rights (IPR), and more, I saw an opportunity to create a multidisciplinary firm. The idea was to offer clients a one-stop solution where they could find expertise across a broad spectrum of legal areas without needing to approach multiple firms.
3. Client Empowerment and Education:
Many clients approach law with apprehension, feeling overwhelmed or unsure of their rights. I wanted to build a practice that empowered clients by demystifying legal processes, providing clear guidance, and being a dependable partner during their most critical moments.
4. Contributing to Society:
Establishing MP Legal allowed me to take on pro bono cases and work on matters that resonated with my commitment to social justice. This was especially important to me, as I believe law is not just a profession but a tool for positive change.
Key Challenges in Expanding the Firm:
Building a Client Base:
One of the initial challenges was building a reputation and attracting clients in a competitive legal market. As a new firm, we had to rely heavily on word-of-mouth referrals and demonstrate our competence through consistent results. Establishing trust and credibility took time and effort.
Assembling the Right Team:
A firm’s success is rooted in its people. Finding skilled, passionate, and ethical legal professionals who aligned with the firm’s vision was both critical and challenging. Recruiting and retaining talent required creating a work environment that encouraged collaboration, growth, and a shared commitment to excellence. At present I am proud to have an excellent team of associates namely Advocate Anisha (Senior associate), Advocate Pranvitha, Advocate Sofian, Advocate Sai Krishna, Advocate Govinda, Advocate Suresh, Advocate Shrutha Keerthi and Advocate Sayeed who supported me in all aspects of the work to ensure all the matters are addressed on time. Without the team of hard working associates it is impossible to achieve the best results.
Managing Resources:
Like any new business, resource management was a key hurdle. Balancing operational costs, investing in technology, and ensuring compliance with legal and administrative requirements while scaling the practice demanded careful planning and prioritization.
Expanding the Practice Areas:
As the firm grew, we encountered increasingly complex cases that required specialization. Expanding our expertise in areas like, sports law, corporate law involved rigorous training, attending industry seminars, and fostering partnerships with experts in niche fields.
Staying Adaptable in a Changing Legal Landscape:
The legal field is constantly evolving, with new legislation, judicial trends, and technological disruptions shaping how firms operate. Embracing legal tech, implementing efficient case management systems, and staying ahead of regulatory changes were essential to staying competitive.
Maintaining Quality Amid Growth:
Rapid expansion came with its own set of challenges, particularly maintaining the personalized, high-quality service that MP Legal was founded on. Ensuring that every client, regardless of the size of their case, received the same level of attention and dedication required constant vigilance and internal alignment.
You have specialized in Sports law and advised and represented many sports federations and sports bodies/ Associations and many athletes of National and International level. What do you think are the most common legal pitfalls, and how do you help them avoid these risks?
Advising sports federations, associations, and world-level athletes has given me a unique perspective on the complexities of sports law and the legal challenges that arise in this dynamic field. Sports law sits at the intersection of multiple disciplines, including contract law, intellectual property, labor law, Arbitration Law or ADR and even criminal law, making it both fascinating and intricate.
At the very outset, Sports law is very niche and raw in India right now. There are a lot of gaps that need to be bridged along with many pitfalls that need to be addressed from the governance level. When I started my journey as a sports lawyer I was fortunate enough to be associated with the Cycling Federation of India under the thought leadership of Shri. Onkar Singh (Chairman, Asian Cycling Confederation), Shri. Maninderpal Singh (Secretary General, Cycling Federation of India) through Dr. Maxwell Trevor (Eminent International Cyclist India has produced). The Cycling Federation of India gave me an opportunity to serve them since then and also appointed me as a member of the Grievance Committee and that helped me to understand and address various issues that arise in sports. Sports law being very niche in the country there is a very less scope of opportunities in the country as of now. However, the Cycling Federation of India that works towards excellence and vision, encourages young and new talent in every field, by giving me the opportunity to serve such a pioneer and the best National Sports Federation in the country, the additional perks are that it gives me an opportunity to appear in High Courts all over the country is an honor and privilege. “And there is a lot of work for me”.
Common Legal Pitfalls in Sports Law, Corporate Law and Litigation:
Poorly Drafted Contracts:
Many issues in sports law stem from inadequately drafted contracts. Whether it’s athlete agreements, sponsorship deals, broadcasting rights, or endorsement contracts, vague or imbalanced terms can lead to disputes. These contracts often fail to address contingencies such as injuries, termination clauses, or changes in governing rules.
Intellectual Property (IP) Mismanagement:
Athletes and federations often underestimate the importance of protecting their brands, logos, and trademarks. Unauthorized use of an athlete’s likeness or improper licensing of IP can lead to revenue loss and brand dilution. Conversely, improper use of third-party trademarks or copyrighted material can result in costly litigation.
Doping and Regulatory Violations:
Compliance with anti-doping regulations and other governing body rules is a significant concern. Athletes and federations sometimes fail to keep abreast of updates to anti-doping lists, eligibility criteria, or reporting requirements, which can lead to sanctions, disqualifications, and reputational damage. Additionally the issue of Over The Counter medication is a major concern in India and for athletes right now.
Discrimination and Harassment Claims:
Issues related to gender equality, discrimination, and harassment are increasingly prominent in sports. Federations and associations can face litigation for failing to create and enforce policies that promote a safe, inclusive environment.
Labor Disputes:
Disputes over athlete compensation, contract breaches, and transfer agreements are common. Without clear terms or effective dispute resolution mechanisms, such conflicts can escalate into prolonged litigation.
Governance and Compliance Failures:
Federations are often scrutinized for issues like mismanagement, lack of transparency, or non-compliance with governing body regulations. These failures can lead to penalties, loss of recognition, or diminished credibility.
Ambush Marketing and Sponsorship Conflicts:
In major events, ambush marketing—where brands attempt to associate themselves with an event without official sponsorship—poses challenges for rights holders. Similarly, conflicts arise when athletes’ personal sponsorships clash with federation agreements.
Data Privacy Concerns:
With the increasing use of technology in sports, such as wearables and analytics platforms, managing and protecting athletes’ personal and performance data has become a pressing issue. Non-compliance with data protection laws can result in hefty fines and loss of trust
The world of sports law is as exhilarating as the games themselves, filled with high stakes and rapid developments. My role is to help athletes, federations, and associations navigate this landscape with confidence, ensuring they can focus on excellence in their respective fields while I handle the legal complexities. By combining proactive risk management with a client-centered approach, I aim to safeguard their interests and contribute to the growth and integrity of sports.
How do you prioritize and manage your time effectively when juggling your responsibilities as a litigator, corporate advisor and sports law advisor, especially with the wide variety of clients and industries you serve?
Balancing the dual responsibilities of being a litigator and a corporate advisor across a wide array of clients and industries requires a strategic approach to time management and prioritization.
Managing Time Effectively as a Litigator, sports law advisor and Corporate Advisor:
Juggling the demands of litigation and corporate advisory work is no small feat, given the distinct skill sets, deadlines, and expectations each requires. Over the years, I’ve developed a disciplined and adaptable approach to ensure that I meet the needs of all my clients effectively:
1. Establishing Clear Priorities:
The first step is understanding what requires immediate attention versus what can be planned for later. Litigation often involves strict court-imposed deadlines, so those tasks naturally take precedence. On the other hand, corporate advisory work may involve strategic planning, which allows for a more structured timeline. To stay organized:
• I maintain a detailed calendar for court hearings, filing deadlines, and client meetings.
• I break down tasks into daily, weekly, and monthly goals, focusing on urgent and high-impact activities first.
• For long-term corporate projects, such as contract drafting or compliance reviews, I allocate dedicated blocks of time to ensure steady progress without last-minute pressure.
2. Leveraging Technology:
I rely heavily on technology to streamline my workflow and stay organized:
• Legal Tech Platforms: Tools like case management systems and legal research databases help me manage litigation-related documents, track case progress, and access critical precedents efficiently.
• Collaborative Tools: Platforms like Slack, Microsoft Teams, or project management software enable seamless communication with my team and clients, particularly for corporate matters.
• Automated Alerts: I set reminders for key deadlines and milestones to ensure nothing slips through the cracks.
3. Delegation and Teamwork:
I recognize that I cannot do everything alone. Building a strong, capable team has been essential in managing my workload.
• For litigation, my team assists with tasks like preparing briefs, reviewing documents, and conducting preliminary research, allowing me to focus on strategy and courtroom advocacy.
• For corporate advisory work, I delegate specific aspects of projects, such as compliance reviews or drafting initial agreements, while I oversee and refine the final output.
Regular check-ins ensure that my team remains aligned with client goals and deadlines.
4. Maintaining Flexibility:
The unpredictable nature of litigation often requires me to pivot quickly. A last-minute hearing or urgent client issue can disrupt even the best-laid plans. To accommodate this:
• I build buffer time into my schedule to handle unexpected developments.
• I communicate transparently with corporate clients, ensuring they understand when timelines might shift and keeping them updated on progress.
5. Effective Communication:
Managing diverse clients and industries means tailoring my communication style and approach to each client’s needs. Clear, concise communication ensures that:
• Litigation clients are updated on case progress and understand their options at every stage.
• Corporate clients receive actionable advice that aligns with their strategic objectives without unnecessary legal jargon.
6. Staying Informed Across Industries:
To provide valuable insights to my corporate clients while addressing litigation demands, I dedicate time to staying current on industry trends and legal developments. This often involves:
• Setting aside specific hours each week for reading legal updates, industry news, and case law digests.
• Attending industry-specific seminars or webinars to remain informed about the latest regulations affecting my corporate clients.
7. Balancing Personal and Professional Well-Being:
High-pressure roles like litigation and corporate advisory can be mentally and physically demanding. To stay at my best:
• I prioritize health by maintaining a regular exercise routine and practicing mindfulness.
• I set boundaries to ensure I have time to recharge, knowing that a well-rested mind is more productive and creative.
8. Building Long-Term Client Relationships:
Strong relationships with clients reduce inefficiencies. When I understand a client’s needs, preferences, and long-term goals, I can anticipate their requirements and streamline my work. For example:
• For corporate clients, this might involve creating templates for recurring contracts or compliance processes.
• For litigation clients, maintaining detailed records of past cases ensures I’m always prepared for follow-ups or related matters.
Conclusion:
Balancing litigation and corporate advisory work across diverse industries is both challenging and rewarding. It requires meticulous planning, efficient execution, and a commitment to delivering excellence. By staying organized, leveraging technology, and fostering strong team collaboration, I ensure that every client receives the attention and expertise they deserve, no matter how complex their needs may be.
Given your experience, what advice would you offer to young lawyers who are interested in pursuing a career in both litigation, sports law and corporate advisory roles?
Pursuing a career that spans both litigation and corporate advisory is demanding but immensely rewarding. It requires a unique blend of skills, adaptability, and a strategic approach to learning and professional growth. Here’s the advice I would offer to young lawyers:
1. Build a Strong Foundation in Legal Principles:
• Focus on mastering the basics of law, including procedural rules, substantive legal principles, and statutory interpretation. A strong foundation will serve you well in both litigation and corporate advisory.
• Pay special attention to contract law, corporate law, and dispute resolution, as these areas often intersect in dual-practice roles.
2. Develop Core Skills for Both Roles:
Litigation:
Hone your research and drafting skills. Learn to write clear, concise pleadings and legal arguments.
Practice public speaking and courtroom advocacy to build confidence in presenting your case.
Observe experienced litigators to understand courtroom etiquette and strategy.
Gain Diverse Experience early on
Intern or work with firms or professionals specializing in both litigation and corporate law. This will give you exposure to a variety of cases and clients, helping you identify your strengths and interests.
Participate in pro bono projects or legal clinics to gain hands-on experience, particularly in litigation.
Embrace Lifelong Learning
The legal field evolves rapidly, especially in areas like corporate law, which is influenced by economic trends and regulatory changes.
Attend seminars, workshops, and webinars to stay updated on legal developments. Consider enrolling in specialized certifications, such as arbitration, mediation, or corporate governance, to enhance your skills.
Build a Professional Network
Develop relationships with peers, mentors, and professionals in the industry. Networking can open doors to opportunities, provide guidance, and offer insights into the dual nature of litigation and corporate advisory work.
Join bar associations, young lawyer forums, or industry-specific groups to connect with professionals in your areas of interest.
Balance Assertiveness with Empathy
In litigation, you must advocate strongly for your client while maintaining professionalism and respect for the opposing side and the court.
In corporate advisory, understanding your client’s business goals and challenges is crucial. Approach problems from their perspective and offer practical, actionable solutions.
Be Prepared for Multitasking
Juggling litigation and corporate advisory requires excellent time management. Develop the ability to prioritize tasks, meet deadlines, and handle unexpected challenges efficiently.
Use tools like task management software and calendars to stay organized.
Cultivate Patience and Resilience
Litigation often involves prolonged timelines and unexpected outcomes. Patience and the ability to manage setbacks are critical.
Corporate advisory demands attention to detail and strategic thinking, sometimes under tight deadlines. Stay calm under pressure and focus on delivering quality work.
Choose the Right Mentor or Guidance
Seek mentors who have experience in both litigation and corporate law. They can provide valuable insights into balancing these roles and navigating challenges.
Work closely with them to learn how they manage their time, approach client interactions, and stay updated on legal trends.
Maintain Ethical Standards and Integrity
Whether in the courtroom or boardroom, your reputation as a lawyer is your most valuable asset. Always act with integrity, maintain confidentiality, and uphold professional ethics.
Stay Curious and Open-Minded
Both litigation, sports law and corporate advisory involve continuous problem-solving. Be open to learning from every case and client, and use each experience to sharpen your skills.
Explore diverse industries and types of cases early in your career to broaden your perspective and build a versatile skill set.
Final Thoughts:
A dual career in litigation and corporate advisory is demanding but highly fulfilling. It allows you to experience the intellectual rigor of courtroom advocacy and the strategic problem-solving of corporate practice. With dedication, continuous learning, and a willingness to adapt, you can build a career that is both dynamic and impactful.
Your work in the intellectual property law space is highly specialized. What initially sparked your interest in IP law?
This is a very interesting question for me. I’ve been asked this many times, and I always say that actually, my personality is such that I get bored easily with things. Things, not people—okay? So, if I am doing something continuously and it feels monotonous, I get bored. Since my childhood, it has been a dream of mine to do something of my own, possibly due to my background or family conditions—a very orthodox family. But I wanted to do something interesting that always excites me.
It should always give me a kick to do better and better, until I achieve the best, right? So, that’s how I developed my journey. I would say my interest in IP law was sparked during my graduation days when I was actually searching for what I should do.
And I encountered a book by B.D. Singh with a chapter on patents, and this chapter opened my eyes to the fascinating world of innovation and technology. As I delved deeper, I realized that working in this field means being exposed to new ideas and groundbreaking technologies every day.
It felt like being on the front line of innovation. Now that you are involved in IP, you will realize why I chose it. What truly drove me to start my journey in IP was that it became not just my passion but my attitude. IP became more than just a field of study for me; it became a part of who I am. I believe I am at my best when I’m working in this space, and this confidence gave me the drive to turn my passion into a business.
More than working with corporates and universities, I realized that there’s a huge gap in the support provided to universities, startups, and SMEs. When I entered the field of IP, I started catering to these needs. For me, it’s not just about protecting ideas but also empowering innovators and helping them realize the full potential of their creativity.
During early stages of your career, while you spent four years working as an IP consultant, basically in patent research and analytics, what kind of experience was it that influenced your career trajectory? And what were the key insights that you would prefer to share?
During the early stages of my career, I spent not four but six years working as an IP professional, focusing on patent research and analytics in both corporate and academic environments.
I worked in the corporate sector and with Amity University, which was the only university where I worked as an employee. This experience was instrumental in shaping my career trajectory and deepening my understanding of IP from multiple perspectives. I learned how IP is handled in the corporate and business sectors and how it is managed in academia.
In the corporate sector, I learned business strategies around IP that help companies stay ahead in competitive markets. Large corporations file patents not just to protect their inventions but to monetize them. This taught me how patents drive innovation and secure market advantages.
In contrast, my time with Amity University exposed me to the academic approach to IP: how research translates into intellectual property and the challenges faced by institutions in managing and leveraging their innovation effectively.
The biggest lesson I learned during this time was the immense potential of IP to create tangible value—whether for multinational corporations, universities, or startups. It also made me realize the importance of bridging the gap between innovators and the IP process, which ultimately inspired me to start my own venture.
I also remember a pivotal experience in Singapore, where I attended a conference through WIPO. During the conference, someone remarked that India and China are “jugaad” countries that copy products and lack awareness about protecting intellectual property.
This comment struck a nerve. It motivated me to return to India, leave my job, and create something that could address this issue. I conducted 75 free workshops for SMEs and universities in 2013 to spread awareness about why IP is important. It wasn’t just about filing; it was about understanding what you are losing by not protecting your ideas.
You actually are the first-generation serial woman entrepreneur. Can you take us through that journey, through that experience that actually led you to start Ennoble IP and how do you see that this is impacting society at large and majorly women entrepreneurs?
Let’s not define entrepreneurship by gender. I used to think of myself as a woman entrepreneur, but over time, I realized entrepreneurship transcends gender.
Yes, as a woman, 20-40% of the challenges we face may be gender-specific. But the rest are the same for all entrepreneurs. I come from a small town in Eastern UP, and I belong to a traditional Rajput family. The mindset in my family was that women were destined for the “3 Ks”—knitting, kitchen, and kids.
However, my parents, particularly my mother, were rebellious. My mother was determined to ensure that my sisters and I became financially independent. She always emphasized that financial independence is the key to freedom—freedom to make decisions without asking a father, husband, or boss for money.
My journey as a first-generation entrepreneur has been both challenging and rewarding. During my university days, I discovered my passion for IP and realized I could work with innovators to protect groundbreaking ideas. After gaining industry experience in corporate and academic settings, I saw a significant gap in IP services for startups, universities, and SMEs.
Starting Ennoble IP was my way of addressing these gaps, but it was also a journey of self-discovery. Each experience taught me resilience, adaptability, and the importance of staying true to my vision.
So, he makes the decisions on how the house will run. We live in a joint family, and to this day, we still have a joint family. My uncle guided my father, and my grandfather also guided him, saying, “You have a daughter; save money and give her basic education if you want.” But my mother and father were very rebellious—both of them, I would say.
The first step was taken by my mother, but yes, my father joined hands with her. My mother declared, “I have daughters, but that doesn’t stop me from building their careers or making them financially independent.” And my mother was determined throughout, until we realized the importance of financial independence.
She taught us that financial independence is the freedom you actually require in your life. Otherwise, you will always have to ask. If you don’t have a brother, you’ll always turn to your father, saying, ‘I want this; give me this money.’ Then you’ll turn to your husband, saying, ‘I want this; give me your money.’ Finally, you’ll turn to your male bosses, asking for a raise.
So, she asked, “Why don’t you create your own financial freedom so you don’t have to ask anyone?” She even gave her example: “See, if I have to make any decision, I have to ask your father. If I had been earning, I would have sat with him to discuss whether we should invest or not. Instead of asking, ‘I want this—will you help me buy that?’ I would have had the confidence to contribute equally.”
So, she talked about financial freedom and confidence until the three of us realized how essential they are. My father supported me—I would say he was always the strongest backbone for us, alongside my mother.
Now, coming to being a first-generation entrepreneur: my journey has been both challenging and incredibly rewarding. I always say, “Be proud of yourself,” and I am very proud of whatever I have achieved.
Growing up, I didn’t have—as I mentioned—a family business or entrepreneurial legacy to guide me. But I always had a strong drive, inspired by my mother, to create something meaningful.
The key moment that set me on this path was during my university days when I discovered my passion for IP. The idea that I could work with innovators, support them, and help protect groundbreaking ideas fascinated me immensely.
After gaining industry experience—both in corporate and academic settings—I saw a significant gap, as I mentioned, in how IP services were being delivered to startups, universities, and SMEs.
While large corporations had access to world-class IP support systems, smaller entities were often left struggling to navigate the complexities of intellectual property. That was something I wanted to change. That realization was the kick I needed to get started.
I wanted to be independent, and my independence inspired my sisters, who said, “Yes, we will work.” But I was determined: “No, I don’t want to limit myself to one job. I want to build a business.” At that time, I was young and naïve, but as you grow, wisdom comes. I was still a child back then, thinking, “I will start a business where my daddy’s friends will come and say, ‘Please employ my child.’”
And these relatives will come and say, “Please help me with the job also.” I was of that mindset, but I was totally wrong. So, for the young people who are watching this, this should not be the driving force for you. I was scared. I was scared, but with the vision, with the wisdom that comes with age and experience, I am not working today for myself. I’m working for almost 260 people who are working with me right now. Together, we are working towards that vision. So, entrepreneurship, I would say, is a very beautiful thing if you actually enjoy this journey. Starting Ennoble IP was my way of bridging the gap—not only in the industry but also in my thought process.
I wanted to create a platform that not only provides IP services but also empowers innovators by making it more accessible, more understandable, and more strategically strong, where they get the support they need. Along the way, the three challenges I faced were, first, learning to navigate the business world without prior experience, second, building a trusted network, and third, establishing credibility as a first-generation entrepreneur.
Now, coming to your question—yes, I faced challenges being a woman. As I mentioned, it’s only 20–40%, not more than that. The rest of the problems are the same. Trust is the major issue. At the time when I started, I was very thin and looked much younger than my age. This made people reluctant to trust me.
Once, I was sitting with a vice-chancellor of a university, and after a talk, he said, “Madam, I thought that as the chief guest, you must be very old. Will you be able to handle this workshop and the university’s work? You are just a woman, madam. This university is very big.”
In my mind, I was thinking, ‘Where have you come from? You have so many female faculty members, yet you doubt me?’ But I said politely, “Sir, I’ll need your help. If you help me, I will be able to manage.” This was me satisfying the male ego.
After my talk, he said, “You are like chota packet bada dhamaka.” I responded, “No, sir, you are wrong. I may be small or big—I don’t know—but I am definitely a dhamaka.” Then I added, “Never underestimate women because if we can handle a kitchen and kids, we can handle anything.”
I continued, “If a woman can bring life into this world, she can do anything.” He was silent, but now, we are good friends. I respect him a lot, and he often says, ‘Shweta, you changed my mindset.’ After that, he gave his daughter the wings she wanted.
What I want to emphasize is that each experience has taught me resilience, adaptability, and, most importantly, staying true to my vision. This is very important. I often say resilience has built me because it’s like fighting against odd situations every time.
As a woman, we face challenges, but as an entrepreneur, we face even more. It’s resilience that helps us persevere. People these days on Instagram talk about manifestation, right? I didn’t know this word back then, but now I realize that all this while, I was manifesting.
From my childhood, I manifested something, and I believe in it. My favorite song is Chaand Taare Tod Lau. That song is about manifestation—and look at the actor! It’s all in your mind. You just have to believe.
These characteristics and skills, no one is born with. You develop them through experience. I was very naïve when I started meeting investors. I didn’t want to raise money for my startup, but I have an NPO where I support women.
I believe in giving back to society. Through that NPO, we support women. It’s not for profit. I have only invested my own money so far. We do not work for CSR funds because the women we support are doing fantastically well.
When I started in 2012 or 2013, there wasn’t much exposure. In meetings with investors, they would say, “She may get married soon and plan a family.” I got furious during some of those interviews and said, “Sir, that boy will also plan for a family. He will also have a child.”
Just because we, as women, go through this process doesn’t mean we are weak. It’s a mutual responsibility. But I have seen a change in the ecosystem now. We have become fearless.
I had to learn and develop these skills, but this new generation—Gen Z—is already born with this fearless expression and thought process, which is commendable and really cool.
When we three sisters discuss, we always say that if our mom had received a proper education, she would have been the CEO of a company. My dad has a slow decision-making process. My mom, on the other hand, is quick with decisions.
But I would again emphasize—until the father supports the mother, she cannot do anything. My father is not a risk-taker, but I inherited that ability from my mother. The values and empathy, however, I got from my father.
Intellectual properties have often been considered very complex and intimidating for startups. How did you handle those particular challenges whenever you faced those young innovators and startups?
China is still leading the world in terms of patents. And I believe that we must strive to surpass China because population-wise, we are stronger. First, we are intellectually very sound when it comes to technology. So, I’m a very proud Indian. Actually, I say this often: I travel to a lot of countries, and when I come back, I love inhaling this polluted air. I genuinely love India, despite its challenges. However, India still has a long way to go.
The scenario has changed. Earlier, there was no awareness. People didn’t know about IP, so they weren’t filing patents. Now, there is awareness. But still, many startups do not file. Why? Because they don’t give priority to IP.
They think it’s something that can be addressed at a later stage. They ask, ‘Why invest the money now?’ They don’t realize that investing in IP strategies is the key to driving their business forward. They are unaware of the story of Google. They don’t want to know. They just see that Google has become Google—not through business strategy alone, but through its IP strategy.
Apple is Apple because of its IP strategy. So, this is something I would like to emphasize before starting my answer.
Coming back to your question, IP law does seem daunting for startups and young innovators, especially when they are more focused on developing their products or services than navigating the legal complexities.
Some key challenges they face—and this is based entirely on my 10–12 years of experience—are:
Lack of awareness: As I mentioned, many startups are unaware of the importance of intellectual property or the steps required to protect their innovations. IP strategy should be an integral part of the business strategy from the very beginning. They often underestimate how crucial it is to secure patents, trademarks, copyrights, or, if it’s a product, the design, right at the early stages.
Limited resources: Startups, being small businesses, typically operate on tight budgets. This makes it difficult for them to prioritize IP amidst other pressing needs like product development or marketing. They end up investing more in product development and marketing rather than prioritizing IP.
Global complexity: For startups looking to expand internationally, understanding and complying with IP laws across different jurisdictions can be overwhelming.
Timing and strategy: Filing for IP protection too late or without a clear strategy can make startups vulnerable to infringement, competition, or even losing their innovations.
At Ennoble IP, we address these challenges directly. We have designed our services specifically to tackle these four challenges. We start by educating startups and SMEs about intellectual property and how it can serve as a powerful business asset. We offer tailored solutions that are not only cost-effective but also of the same quality as corporate-grade services, and they align with the startup’s stage of growth.
For example, we help startups conduct patent searches, explain why it is done, file applications, and ensure that their IP strategy aligns with their business goals. We also do not force startups to file a patent if it is unnecessary. Right? There are different IPs, and you already know this because you are in the same business line. Sometimes, a patent may not even be required—for example, in the music industry, where copyright is often sufficient. So, we create strategies accordingly. We also assist with global filings and provide strategic advice on leveraging IP portfolios for funding, partnerships, and market positioning.
Our goal is to make the IP process as seamless as possible for startups and SMEs so that they can focus on what they do best: innovating. We always say, “You handle your product and marketing strategy, and we’ll handle your IP strategy.” Marketing also requires IP. Many firms don’t realize that their marketing materials and overall marketing strategy should involve IP considerations.
Ultimately, IP should not be viewed as a hurdle but as an opportunity for smart businesses—startups and SMEs—to strengthen their competitive edge. As I mentioned, I am passionate about helping in these areas.
Given the scenario today, there is a rise of new technologies, there is a growing need for IP protection in the kind of fields where AI is getting involved. How do you see the intersection of IP laws and IP per se with this kind of disruptive tech, which is going to shape the future of innovation in a very different manner specially in the Indian environment and ecosystem?
I would say that the intersection of IP law and emerging technologies is becoming increasingly crucial in shaping the future of innovation. Technologies like artificial intelligence, blockchain, quantum computing, and biotechnology are evolving rapidly, pushing the boundaries of traditional intellectual property frameworks. This presents both challenges and opportunities. One key challenge is the pace at which technology is advancing, often outpacing the conventional IP systems designed for traditional inventions.
For instance, questions around the patentability of AI-generated inventions or the ownership of decentralized blockchain solutions are sparking new debates in legal and regulatory spaces. On the other hand, this intersection drives a deeper understanding of the strategic importance of IP. Companies and innovators are recognizing that a robust IP strategy is not just about protecting ideas but also about creating a competitive edge in a technology-driven market.
Here, you don’t just need an IP strategy; you also need good market research. IP portfolios are becoming integral to attracting investments, forming strategic partnerships, and determining valuations during mergers and acquisitions. A classic example, albeit not recent, is Nokia, Microsoft, and BlackBerry. These cases illustrate how an IP portfolio can protect an entire company.
At Ennoble IP, we are at the forefront of this intersection. We work with innovators to navigate this complexity, whether it involves filing patents for AI algorithms, protecting proprietary aspects of blockchain applications, or managing IP risks in cross-border collaborations. Our role is not just to protect innovations but also to help innovators leverage their IP to unlock new opportunities.
Looking ahead, I believe IP law will continue to evolve to address the unique challenges posed by emerging technologies. For instance, there will be greater emphasis on global harmonization of IP laws to address the borderless nature of technology. More collaboration will also emerge between legal, technical, and policy experts to ensure that IP frameworks foster innovation without stifling it.
The future of innovation will rely heavily on how effectively we align IP protection with the needs of new technologies. By staying ahead of trends and proactively addressing challenges, we can ensure that the innovation ecosystem remains vibrant and sustainable. IP, market research, and business intelligence must work collaboratively. For instance, in the case of AI and blockchain, where new advancements emerge daily, a robust strategy is essential.
With my UAE office, I have seen how blockchain startups are leveraging IP strategies effectively despite varying jurisdictional rules. This diversity creates challenges, but India is becoming a goldmine for IP service providers. With huge investments in R&D flowing into India, we are at the cusp of something big.
And believe me, my dad always told me, and this was my dad’s wisdom, people can take away your wealth and other materialistic things; they can take away everything, but two things nobody can rob you of are your knowledge and character. So, always work on those things. Today, I’m not scared, even if I lose everything, because I know I have expertise, and I have knowledge. I can earn again. Since I’m not scared, I always take risks. Knowledge is a very important tool in today’s world.
Fifth is to create your own opportunities. If you find a door closed, don’t hesitate to build your own. As a first-generation entrepreneur, I didn’t inherit a business, right? I built one from scratch. It’s about being resourceful and proactive in creating pathways where none exist. Let me give you an example: I started a business in a very crowded space. IP is a very crowded space. But I didn’t hesitate to enter because I came up with an innovative model, collaborating with universities, startups, and small businesses.
Now, the sixth point I would like to mention is to advocate for others. As women, we have a unique opportunity to lift each other up, whether through mentorship, collaboration, or simply sharing stories. Supporting other women can create a ripple effect of empowerment.
For example, I often refer to the movie Jai Ho. If you’ve seen Salman Khan’s movie, you’ll recall the chain they create. I don’t remember all the details now, but the concept stuck with me. If one woman holds the hand of another and uplifts her, this chain can actually bring about change.
Because, speaking from my own experience, I got more support from men than women. I didn’t receive much support from women, and that’s why I started my mission through WIF, my NPO, which supports women. Helping others in this way is one of the most meaningful things you can do in life.
Lastly, the seventh point: embrace resilience. For me, resilience has been key. There will be setbacks, but resilience will carry you through. Every obstacle you overcome adds to your strength and experience, making you better equipped for the next challenge.
What kind of advice would you give to others, specially women entrepreneurs as we see a lot of technology biases are also there. How do you see that one can navigate through those kinds of obstacles, especially in IP.?
To all women entrepreneurs, I would say this: don’t let anyone define your potential. Dream big, be ambitious, and proudly say, “I am ambitious.” Don’t feel shy about wanting to make money—it’s okay to say, “I want to make money.” You must aim to build a business that not only fulfills your passion but also generates wealth. And don’t hesitate to seek help when needed.
So, dream big, be ambitious, work relentlessly, and lead with purpose. Remember, your success is not just your own; it is an inspiration for others who are watching and believing they can do it too.
Can you share with us how your journey in the field of law began after graduating from the Army Institute of Law, Mohali? What initially drew you to Intellectual Property law? And we would also love to know what inspired you to make a career in Law.
I graduated from the Army Institute of Law in 2012 and began my career at S.S. Rana and Associates that same year, working under the guidance of Mr. Vikrant Rana. Mr. Rana’s extensive knowledge and experience in intellectual property law left a lasting impression on me. Although my work initially focused on the opposition department, I gained valuable insights into strategy, meticulous drafting, and vetting of written pleadings from him and my dearest colleague, Ms. Meenal Khurana. What I cherished most during my time at the firm were the friendships I formed, many of which I still hold dear. They say the friends you make at your first workplace remain for life, and in my case, it holds.
Law wasn’t my first career choice; I dreamt of becoming a chef. Life, however, had different plans. I’ve always been the type to question things, to ask too many questions, as those who know me can attest. So, naturally, law felt like the perfect fit for someone like me. Plus, I’ve developed a knack for delving into the nitty-gritty details, over-researching, and finding solutions – it just clicked.
Entering the field of intellectual property law was a stroke of luck. I developed a passion for IP during my college years, but it wasn’t until I joined S.S. Rana that I truly fell in love with it. The dynamic nature of IP law presents new challenges and opportunities for learning every day. They say, “Every day is an opportunity to learn something new. Embrace it, cherish it, and let it inspire you.”
You spent eight years at Saikrishna and Associates working with the Trade Marks Prosecution Team. What are some of the most significant cases or projects you worked on during this period? Also could you please share insights on your time at Saikrishna & Associates?
After a rewarding tenure of less than two years with S.S. Rana, I joined Saikrishna and Associates in 2014, where I had the privilege of working under the exceptional guidance of Mr. Pushpam Jha. Mr. Jha’s profound knowledge and unwavering support in prosecution practice were instrumental in my professional growth. Under his mentorship, I gained comprehensive exposure to trade mark, copyright, and design prosecution.
Initially joining as an Associate, I was promoted to Senior Associate in 2018 and remained with the firm until 2022. During this period, I worked with a diverse clientele across various sectors, including media and entertainment, FMCG, beauty, and pharmaceuticals.
One of the most memorable experiences was managing a significant portfolio for a cosmetic client grappling with extensive infringements. This involved addressing identical applications not only within the core class but also across multiple other classes. I played a pivotal role in strategizing, clearing the Trade Marks Register, and maintaining vigilant oversight of potential infringements. This experience was incredibly enriching, providing me with profound insights into portfolio management and strategic enforcement.
Another notable project involved an international portfolio in the automobile sector, encompassing over 800 marks. When the portfolio was handed over to me, it was fraught with challenges. My team and I dedicated several months to addressing and resolving these issues, ultimately streamlining the portfolio and enhancing its global compliance. This endeavour significantly bolstered my confidence and broadened my understanding of international trademark laws.
At Ashwathh Legal, your expertise expanded to include media, entertainment, and publishing. How have you navigated these new domains, and what unique challenges have you encountered?
With nearly a decade of experience in intellectual property prosecution, I recognized the importance of evolving and broadening my professional horizons. The vast expanse of knowledge in the field offers endless opportunities for growth and development.
Building on my background in IP, I have ventured into advising production houses on potential projects and representing authors to safeguard their rights. This transition has not only extended my professional reach but also enriched my understanding of the industry. Engaging with these new facets of IP has provided me with a broader perspective and a more comprehensive skill set, allowing me to contribute effectively across diverse areas within the field.
Given your experience with global trademark prosecution, what are some of the biggest challenges you face with cross-border IP issues, and how do you address them?
One of the most significant challenges we encounter in international trademark practice arises from differing jurisdictional principles, particularly between “first-to-file” and “first-to-use” systems.
In India, which follows a common law tradition, the “first-to-use” principle prevails. This means that if you can provide evidence of the first use of a trademark, you generally hold superior rights to that mark. In contrast, many countries operate on a “first-to-file” basis. In these jurisdictions, the right to a trademark is granted to the first party to apply, regardless of who used the mark first.
This discrepancy often leads to difficulties, especially in jurisdictions like China and Nepal, where “first-to-file” rules can pose substantial challenges. If another individual or entity files for your trademark in such countries, it becomes significantly more difficult to secure registration or to expunge the mark.
To mitigate these challenges, I always advise my clients to allocate a separate budget for these jurisdictions. This proactive approach helps in managing potential risks and safeguarding their trademark rights effectively.
Can you share any specific strategies or practices you use to maintain a healthy work-life integration, particularly as a working mother in a demanding profession?
Balancing a demanding career as a lawyer with the responsibilities of being a parent is an incredibly complex challenge, and finding a true equilibrium can be elusive. The nature of legal work often requires long hours and flexibility, and this can be especially difficult when unexpected situations arise, such as a child’s illness or urgent court deadlines.
Becoming a mother has deepened my understanding of the difficulties involved, which are often only fully appreciated once experienced firsthand. While it’s easy to acknowledge the challenges from the outside, living them is a different reality.
As a lawyer, the work often lacks clear timelines or boundaries, making it a continuous commitment. I am still navigating this balance and learning to prioritize effectively. Each day presents new challenges, and the key is to focus on what is most important at any given moment.
Being a single parent adds another layer of complexity, making the balancing act even more demanding. Despite the difficulties, I am committed to managing both roles as best as I can, continually adapting to meet both professional and personal priorities.
As a leader and mentor in your firm, what qualities do you believe are essential for nurturing the next generation of lawyers? Additionally, what specific qualities do you look for in interns or fresh graduates when selecting them to join your team?
As a mentor and leader, I believe that patience is essential, especially when guiding new team members and interns. It is important to provide them with the time and support they need to learn and grasp concepts thoroughly. I also encourage them to cultivate their own patience and to approach their learning with a focus on accuracy and understanding.
Equally important is the ability to listen to colleagues and to ask questions whenever something is unclear or seems amiss. Learning is a continuous process, and there may be aspects that even I am not fully aware of. Encouraging a culture where questioning is welcomed and valued helps everyone grow.
I seek individuals who are not only eager to learn but also possess the courage to challenge the status quo and think outside the box. A willingness to question and innovate is essential for both personal and professional development.
What are some personal and professional milestones that you are particularly proud of, and how did you achieve them? Also what are your aspirations for your career and for the growth and development of Ashwathh Legal?
Personal Milestones: I take immense pride in having the strength to stand up for myself and make the difficult decision to leave a broken marriage. Choosing to create a better environment for my child, away from a fractured home, was a significant step toward ensuring her well-being and future.
Professional Milestones: For me, success isn’t defined by awards or titles. Instead, I measure my growth by the knowledge I’ve accumulated and the respect I earn from my peers. If colleagues and former associates feel comfortable reaching out to me for guidance and value my input, that signifies true success. Knowing that I am approachable and that positive things are said about me behind my back reaffirms my belief that humility and respect are the real markers of achievement.
I am proud of the professional reputation I’ve built and strive to continue being this person—one who values knowledge, approachability, and mutual respect.
Have you been involved in any pro bono work or community service related to your field, and if so, can you share some experiences and their impact on you and the community?
I often provide free advice on trademarks, whether to paying clients or those who may not be in a position to engage my services financially. My primary goal is to offer accurate and helpful guidance rather than focusing solely on monetary compensation. I believe that the value of my experience and knowledge extends beyond just earning money.
Sometimes, it’s more important to be a good person and contribute meaningfully to others’ understanding than to prioritize financial gain. By consistently offering sound advice and support, I uphold the true purpose of my expertise and maintain a commitment to helping others.
How do you balance the traditional aspects of Intellectual Property law with the increasing importance of digital IP, such as domain names, online content, and digital media rights? Also Can you share any innovative practices or approaches you’ve implemented in your work?
Balancing traditional aspects of IP law—such as trademarks, copyrights, and patents—with the growing significance of digital IP involves integrating both domains into a cohesive strategy. Traditional IP rights provide the foundation for protecting brand identities, innovations, and creative works, while digital IP covers newer challenges related to online content, domain names, and digital media rights.
Unified Strategy: I maintain a comprehensive IP strategy that includes both traditional and digital elements. For instance, when handling trademarks, I ensure that registration and protection extend to relevant digital platforms, including social media and domain names.
Cross-Disciplinary Knowledge: Staying updated on the latest digital trends and legal developments is crucial. I continuously educate myself on emerging issues such as digital rights management (DRM), online content distribution, and cybersecurity to address new challenges effectively.
Integrated Approach: In practice, I integrate traditional IP protection with digital strategies. For example, I may combine trademark registration with domain name monitoring and enforcement to ensure a client’s brand is safeguarded across both physical and digital spaces.
Innovative Practices and Approaches:
Digital Monitoring Tools: Implementing advanced digital monitoring tools has been a game-changer. These tools help in tracking unauthorized use of trademarks, domain name squatting, and infringement of digital content across various platforms. Real-time alerts and analytics enable prompt action and mitigation.
Block chain for IP Protection: Exploring block chain technology for IP protection has been an innovative approach. Block chain can offer secure and transparent records for copyright ownership and transactions, reducing the risk of piracy and unauthorized distribution.
Collaborative Platforms: Utilizing collaborative platforms and legal tech tools for IP management enhances efficiency. These platforms streamline processes for managing IP portfolios, conducting due diligence, and coordinating with international counsel.
Educational Workshops and Webinars: Conducting workshops and webinars for clients and colleagues on digital IP issues helps in raising awareness and providing practical insights. These sessions cover topics such as digital rights management, social media IP enforcement, and best practices for protecting online content.
Customized IP Solutions: Offering tailored IP solutions that address both traditional and digital aspects ensure comprehensive protection. For instance, creating specific strategies for digital content creators, e-commerce businesses, or tech startups helps in addressing their unique needs and challenges.
When developing Intellectual Property strategies for clients, what factors do you consider to ensure their brands are not only protected but also positioned for growth and sustainability?
Understanding Client Objectives and Market Position:
Business Goals: Align the IP strategy with the client’s overall business objectives. Whether they aim for market expansion, product innovation, or brand differentiation, the IP strategy should support these goals.
Market Analysis: Conduct a thorough analysis of the client’s industry, competitors, and market trends. Understanding where the client stands and where they aim to go is crucial for crafting a strategy that supports growth.
Comprehensive IP Protection:
Trademarks: Ensure that trademarks are registered in all relevant jurisdictions and classes to cover the client’s products or services. Consider protecting variations and related brand elements to avoid potential conflicts.
Patents: For clients with innovative products or technologies, secure patent protection to safeguard their inventions. This includes evaluating patentability, conducting freedom-to-operate analyses, and considering international patent filings if applicable.
Copyrights: For creative works such as software, literature, or artistic content, ensure proper copyright registration and enforcement strategies to protect against unauthorized use and infringement.
Designs: Protect unique product designs through design patents or industrial design rights as appropriate.
Digital and Online Presence:
Domain Names: Register relevant domain names, including variations and common misspellings, to secure the client’s online identity and prevent cybersquatting.
Social Media: Develop a strategy for protecting the brand across social media platforms. This includes monitoring for unauthorized use and addressing potential conflicts promptly.
Digital Rights Management (DRM): Implement DRM strategies to safeguard digital content and ensure compliance with licensing agreements.
Growth and Expansion Planning:
Geographic Expansion: Consider the client’s plans for international expansion and ensure IP protection strategies are adaptable to new markets. This may involve registering trademarks, patents, and copyrights in additional jurisdictions.
Product Line Diversification: Plan for future product or service diversification by evaluating and protecting new innovations or brand extensions. This helps in maintaining a strong IP portfolio as the business evolves.
Risk Management and Enforcement:
Monitoring and Enforcement: Implement monitoring systems to track potential IP infringements and unauthorized use. Develop enforcement strategies to address violations effectively, including legal actions if necessary.
IP Audits: Regularly conduct IP audits to assess the strength and coverage of the IP portfolio. This helps in identifying potential gaps and ensuring that IP assets are managed effectively.
Leveraging IP for Business Development:
Licensing and Partnerships: Explore opportunities for licensing IP assets or forming strategic partnerships. Licensing agreements can generate revenue and expand market reach, while partnerships can enhance brand visibility and growth.
IP Valuation: Assess the value of IP assets for purposes such as fundraising, mergers, or acquisitions. Understanding the economic value of IP can support strategic business decisions.
Compliance and Ethical Considerations:
Legal Compliance: Ensure that the IP strategy complies with local, national, and international IP laws and regulations. This includes adhering to legal requirements for IP registration and protection.
Ethical Practices: Maintain ethical standards in IP enforcement and management. Avoid aggressive litigation tactics and focus on constructive resolution of disputes.
Can you share with us how you initially became interested in pursuing a career in law, particularly in the field of Intellectual Property?
My inclination towards pursuing a career in law, particularly in Intellectual Property (IP) law developed through a combination of academic exposure, personal interests, and professional experiences.
During my academic journey, while studying Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) as a subject, I was always fascinated by how innovation and creativity drive progress in various fields, and I became particularly interested in how these creations could be protected and leveraged legally.
Moreover, my internship provided invaluable real-world exposure to IP issues. Engaging directly with trademark and copyright matters during this period not only equipped me with practical skills but also deepened my comprehension of the nuances of IP law.
In essence, my foray into IP law has been shaped by a trifecta of academic intrigue, hands-on experience, and a personal ardour for innovation and creativity. IP law uniquely amalgamates these passions, offering a vibrant avenue to contribute meaningfully to diverse industries by ensuring rightful recognition and protection for creators and inventors.
What were some of the pivotal moments or experiences during your early career that solidified your passion for Intellectual Property law?
Having a good mentor during the nascent stage of one’s career is imperative, and I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have had one. I was grateful to have a brilliant mentor early on in my career, Mr. Vikrant Rana, whose guidance was instrumental in shaping my career path and deepening my passion for Intellectual Property law.
Early on, I was entrusted with significant responsibilities, such as managing client portfolios and participating in strategic meetings. These experiences not only built my confidence but also reinforced my commitment to this field.
Moreover, I actively participated in various international conferences, including INTA, AIPPI, and APPA, and served as a committee member for INTA in 2019 and the present term. These conferences provided me with the opportunity to interact with industry experts and brilliant legal minds from across the globe. Engaging with the broader IP community during these events expanded my horizons and ignited my enthusiasm for making meaningful contributions to the field.
You’ve worked with a diverse range of clients over the past decade. Could you highlight some of the most challenging cases you’ve worked on and how you navigated them?
Over the past decade, I’ve had the privilege of working with a diverse range of clients in various industries. This experience has exposed me to several challenging cases that required innovative thinking and strategic problem-solving.
One particularly gratifying experience involved facilitating the seamless entry of a Fortune 500 company into the Indian market. This process was comprehensive and multifaceted, requiring meticulous due diligence to ensure a successful outcome. We began by conducting thorough market research to identify any potential conflicts with existing trademarks. This involved analyzing market trends, studying consumer behaviour, and assessing the competitive landscape to ensure our client’s brand would stand out without causing confusion.
Central to this process was the meticulous avoidance of market confusion. Extensive trademark searches and evaluations were conducted to affirm the distinctiveness and legality of our client’s brand, thereby pre-empting any legal disputes that might arise from similarities with existing trademarks.
A significant hurdle we encountered was navigating potential obstacles, notably third-party marks that could hinder our client’s market entry. To address this, we devised a strategic buy-out plan. We approached the holders of these third-party marks and successfully negotiated buy-out agreements, effectively removing any legal barriers and ensuring a clear path for our client’s brand.
In another instance, I managed a trademark dispute for a pharmaceutical company. The challenge here was the potential market confusion due to the similarity of our client’s trademark with that of a competitor. To address this, we conducted extensive market research and gathered evidence to demonstrate the distinctiveness of our client’s brand. Also worked on negotiating a settlement that included coexistence agreements, allowing both parties to continue using their respective trademarks without consumer confusion. This not only resolved the dispute amicably but also preserved our client’s market position.
In each of these cases, the key to navigating the challenges was a combination of deep technical knowledge, strategic legal thinking, and effective communication. Collaborating closely with clients to understand their needs and goals, leveraging expert insights, and maintaining a proactive and solution-oriented approach were crucial to achieving successful outcomes.
Innovation and adaptability are crucial in the legal profession, especially in IP law. How do you stay ahead of the curve and ensure your strategies remain effective in a constantly evolving landscape?
Innovation and adaptability are indeed crucial in the legal profession, particularly in the field of Intellectual Property (IP) law. I focus on several key areas:
· Continuous Learning and Professional Development: Staying updated through conferences, webinars, advanced courses, and leading IP law journals.
· Technological Proficiency: Embracing technology is essential in modern legal practice. I utilize advanced legal research tools and databases to conduct thorough and efficient research.
· Networking and Collaboration: Engaging with IP professionals through associations and forums for knowledge sharing and best practices.
· Client-Centric Approach: Understanding clients’ industries and anticipating their needs to tailor strategies and mitigate risks.
· Emerging Trends: Keeping an eye on emerging trends is vital for staying ahead. For instance, with the rise of digital technologies and artificial intelligence, new IP challenges and opportunities are constantly arising. I invest time in understanding these technologies and their legal implications, ensuring that I can provide informed and forward-thinking advice to my clients.
· Interdisciplinary Knowledge: IP law often intersects with other fields such as technology, business, and international law. I strive to broaden my knowledge base by studying related disciplines. This interdisciplinary approach allows me to address complex IP issues more effectively and to develop comprehensive strategies that consider various legal and business factors.
· Strategic Thinking and Innovation: Lastly, I regularly brainstorm to develop creative solutions to challenging legal issues. I also conduct post-case reviews to identify areas for improvement and to refine strategies continuously.
Can you describe a particular success story where your IP strategy significantly benefited a client? What were the key factors that led to this success?
Recently, I was involved in a comprehensive worldwide due diligence for a client who was acquiring a company primarily based on its intellectual property (IP) assets. During this process, we uncovered a significant discrepancy – a large portion of the IP assets were found to be invalid, which had a profound impact on the agreed amount for the sale and purchase of these assets.
The key factors that led to this success were thoroughness and diligence in conducting the due diligence process. We left no stone unturned in scrutinizing the IP portfolio of the target company, ensuring a meticulous examination of trademarks, copyrights, and other relevant IP assets across multiple jurisdictions.
Additionally, effective communication with the client was crucial. We kept them informed at every stage of the due diligence, discussing findings promptly and transparently. This allowed the client to make well-informed decisions based on accurate information, mitigating potential risks and maximizing the value of their investment.
Furthermore, our ability to adapt and strategize in response to unexpected findings played a pivotal role. Upon discovering the invalidity of a significant portion of the IP assets, we swiftly reevaluated the deal terms and renegotiated the purchase price, ensuring our client was protected from potential financial liabilities.
This experience underscores the importance of conducting thorough due diligence in IP transactions. By meticulously assessing the quality and validity of IP assets, we were able to safeguard our client’s interests and ensure a successful outcome despite encountering unforeseen challenges.
As an innovative thinker and adept communicator, how do you approach complex legal issues to make them understandable for your clients?
As an innovative thinker and adept communicator, I use several key strategies to make complex legal issues understandable for my clients:
· Simplifying Legal Jargon: I break down legal terminology into plain, everyday language to ensure clear and straightforward explanations.
· Using Analogies and Examples: Employing relatable analogies and examples helps convey complex legal concepts in a more concrete and understandable manner.
· Tailored Communication: I adapt my communication style to fit each client’s background and expertise, offering more straightforward explanations for those with less legal knowledge and deeper details for those with a legal or technical background.
· Step-by-Step Explanations: I break down complex issues into manageable steps, walking clients through each phase of the legal process and clarifying the significance and implications of each step.
· Active Listening and Engagement: I actively listen to clients’ concerns and questions, engaging in two-way dialogue to address confusion and ensure clients feel heard and understood.
· Written Summaries and Follow-Ups: Providing written summaries of discussions and next steps reinforces understanding, and I encourage clients to review and ask follow-up questions to maintain clarity on progress.
By combining these strategies, I ensure my clients understand their legal issues, feel confident, and make informed decisions. This approach builds trust and fosters a collaborative, transparent attorney-client relationship.
You’ve held various positions, from Senior Associate to Associate Partner. How has your role evolved over the years, and what have been some of the key lessons you’ve learned along the way?
In my career journey, I’ve seen significant role changes, progressing from Senior Associate to Associate Partner. This progression has been marked by a continuous pursuit of growth and learning, fuelled by my inherent love for hustling and the perpetual fire in my belly to improve every day. One of the key lessons I’ve learned is the importance of adaptability. As I moved up the ranks, I encountered diverse challenges that demanded flexible approaches and innovative solutions. Embracing change and being open to new ideas became essential traits that helped me navigate through various professional landscapes. Another vital lesson has been the significance of effective communication and relationship-building. As I assumed more leadership responsibilities, I realized the critical role that clear communication plays in fostering collaboration and driving success. Building strong relationships, both internally and externally, became instrumental in achieving organizational objectives and delivering value to clients.
What advice would you give to fresh law graduates who are considering a specialization in Intellectual Property law?
Begin by building a strong foundation in Intellectual Property (IP) law and understanding relevant statutes and regulations. Engage in networking opportunities, such as attending seminars and joining professional associations, to gain insights and advance your career. Seek practical experience through internships with IP law firms to gain hands-on exposure to real cases and client interactions.
Lastly, stay curious and hungry in your learning journey, adapting to new technologies and trends to succeed in this dynamic and interdisciplinary field. By staying curious and continuously seeking opportunities to learn and grow, fresh law graduates can position themselves for success in this rewarding and intellectually stimulating area of law.
Thank you for joining us. Could you start by sharing a bit about yourself and your journey in the legal profession? What inspired you to pursue a career in law, and how has your journey unfolded until now?
Thanks for the kind invitation for this interview. Regarding my journey, I am just the second lawyer in my family after my uncle (who practices in the local district court in Assam), so I am a first-generation corporate lawyer. Law was a very interesting option, considering when I was completing my higher secondary education I wanted to explore a career in economics, but somehow the lure of Law especially the Intellectual Property Laws intrigued me along with a massive love for brands. I finally pursued my law from Hidayatullah National Law University, Raipur in 2009 with a major in Intellectual Property Laws. Since then, I have loved every bit of my journey in law. It all started in a boutique IP law firm in New Delhi (Zeus IP), where I learned the practical side of things and horned my skills in the domain. I loved the part that even being an associate I was given complete freedom to advise numerous multinational clients on IP issues. Post the same I moved to a bigger law firm, where I acquired some essential skills of handling big clients having massive IP portfolios. The change to in house role actually came in when I joined an IP consultancy that was working dedicatedly towards brand protection concerns, which is where I was fascinated with this version of IP i.e., enforcement of IP, this also coincided with one of my close aides who got impacted due to counterfeits and my whole perception changed and I wanted to then focus on enforcement of IP which explains my role at Diageo, Flipkart and Currently Western Digital. Protection of consumers and brands became my passion and I wanted to ensure that I do my bit towards this cause. It is such a strange world, where IP enforcement kind of came to me as an accidental or sudden thought and since then has stayed with me as a core of what I am passionate about and love doing as the famous saying goes ‘You never know what tomorrow will bring’ so you should always be prepared and embrace it with all your might.
From working with Diageo India to your current role at Western Digital, you’ve navigated various industries in brand protection. How do you adapt your strategies to suit the unique challenges of each industry, from eco-bev to consumer electronics?
It’s an interesting question as the industries I worked on are completely different having their own set of challenges and issues, but the learnings I gathered over the course of time specially during my role at the IP consultancy helped me build and develop a great core of what essentials are required for brand protection and IP enforcement. A few things that stand out to me would be looking at the problem and its impact on business, understanding the business model (from a sales and marketing perspective) identifying great business partners, market intelligence and data generation. These factors are common across industries and helped me immensely in adapting across industries.
Your passion for brand protection shines through in your extensive experience and achievements. What advice would you give to aspiring IP lawyers or brand protection professionals looking to make a mark in this field?
Thanks for your kind comments. I am grateful to the people whom I worked with who have been kind enough to bestow great knowledge. I would advise young lawyers who want to pursue a career in IP, should certainly explore this very interesting and passionate field of IP enforcement, unfortunately at this stage, it’s not being taught as an educational curriculum, so all the knowledge you can gather is through practical experience. I found this very fascinating considering that my stints across organizations from being support functions to being called revenue generators were a very satisfying experience. I would advise young law students to try and work towards IP enforcement during their internships especially those who plan to intern in FMCG companies, wherein they will realize the importance of this domain. I would also advise young lawyers to stay updated by doing additional courses in upcoming domains like cyber laws and other institutes offering such courses. Lastly, I would advise young lawyers and professionals to be very passionate about the work they do and know that they are creating an immense impact on the society as a whole. They should think with a clear motto of ‘PROUD OF WHAT WE DO’ and ‘BE GENUINE’ in their opinions and thoughts.
In addition to your professional endeavors, you’re known as a foodie and football enthusiast. How do you strike a balance between your career and personal interests, and how do your hobbies complement your work life?
Balance is a key term. Fortunately, due to my role, I used to travel extensively, which gave me a great opportunity to experiment and experience different cultures and their food, which was something I used to always look forward to. In fact, due to the same experience, I started travelling to places just to enjoy a delicacy, which gave me such happiness and satisfaction.
As regards football, it has taught me so much in terms of hard work, resilience, and risk-taking towards my everyday work which I am immensely grateful to. Both my interests are great conversation starters which certainly gives me a very good idea about the stakeholders I will be working with and helps create a personal connection with them. Lastly, one of the biggest things that you require in any professional field is great team spirit which helps you achieve the impossible and watching football showcases that in the best possible manner. There is a very famous quote by one of my inspirations from the footballing world Arsene Wenger who says “Team spirit is like a flower. You have to look after it every day or else it will slowly die. But, as well, you can make it bigger, better and prettier if you care for it.”
The Brand Protection Charter you established garnered recognition and accolades. Could you walk us through the process of creating such a comprehensive strategy and the impact it had on combating counterfeits and infringement?
This was a very challenging task, as when I joined there was no concept of Brand Protection at the organization. Hence I had to start from scratch in terms of creating structures that defined the said concept, then identifying current and potential problems that would fall within that followed by identifying relevant stakeholders who dealt with the problem and connecting with them to create a common group. This took a long time as I had to educate them about it and its grave importance. This was followed by documentation which led to the building of SOP which included clear guidelines defining the problem and stakeholders who were responsible, accountable, consulted and informed about it. This helped immensely in unifying all existing synergies and using them to solve problems for many brands. As a part of the program, I also reached out to a lot of rights holders or brands to build a spectrum of issues involved and how uniquely and swiftly we can solve them. This charter gave me immense satisfaction when we built it and I do hope the same helps in further evolving the program to new heights.
Your journey includes handling various legal matters, from drafting agreements to conducting raids and enforcing IP rights. What are some common misconceptions people might have about brand protection, and how do you address them in your work?
One of the biggest misconceptions that I have heard being an IP lawyer is that we only deal with IP litigations that involve IP infringement, which is not correct considering as IP lawyers we also do a lot of work around counterfeits which certainly can be done at various levels starting from Law enforcement authorities and customs as well. Additionally, IP lawyers were also part of a lot of interesting and detailed investigations that present different perspectives on a problem. Also, when you say brand protection it’s a very broad domain that is not only limited to IP issues but might involve other areas that involve the protection of brands. Lastly, the biggest one that I have heard is legal function is just a support function, but I can confidently say that during my stint across organizations, the biggest compliments I got were when the sales referred to us as revenue generators and business partners who can help them ensure a smooth sale of products. Brand Protection gives you a unique opportunity to be recognized as one of the important clogs in product life cycle machinery.
Being a certified Anti-Counterfeit Professional, you bring a unique skill set to your role. How do you stay updated with the latest trends and techniques in combating counterfeits and online IP infringements?
I would stay updated with the latest trends by attending various forums dedicated to IP and Brand Protection like INTA events, and IACC events to help immensely in building it. Also being part of sub-committees at INTA (who have dedicated people working on specific brand protection issues in emerging domains like e-commerce platforms and others certainly adds a lot of perspective around current practices and gives a huge amount of learning from them. I also look up to any dedicated programs that have been introduced by reputed institutions to upgrade and upskill myself in them.
As someone deeply involved in industry associations like INTA, how do you leverage these platforms to drive positive change in brand protection practices and policies?
I must say it does help a lot to be part of such Associations considering the impact they are creating. INTA is a great example, considering you can gain a lot of knowledge about current best practices for the issues handled, be part of policy dialogue with relevant stakeholders to drive policy changes and impart training to law enforcement officials on the same. I have leveraged the association to a great extent as I was the chair of the Anti-Counterfeit Committee in the 2022-2023 term for the South Asia region and achieved a lot of success in building best practices for the brand protection domain. Being part of the leadership group also provided an opportunity to tie up with other well-known brands towards the same cause and create many meaningful discourses.
Looking ahead, what do you envision as the future of brand protection, especially in the face of evolving technologies and global markets? And what role do you see yourself playing in shaping that future?
There is a massive potential for Brand protection especially with emerging technologies and global market expansion for brands across the world. When I joined the domain, I still remember there were very few multinationals who had dedicated brand protection professionals, teams and most of such work was done by IP and legal teams, in the past few years we have seen brands getting very aggressive about it considering the big important role it plays especially towards revenue generation. Efforts made by brand protection teams go a long way in ensuring revenue growth and great sales. The importance is also further highlighted by emerging problems that come with technology, especially with the advent of the Internet and online business.
In the bigger scheme of things, I would like to be the evolving face of brand protection professionals leading such initiatives with innovative solutions with the help of technology and helping businesses garner revenue growth while ensuring the end consumers enjoy and reap the benefits of using genuine products everyday everywhere.
Heading the IP and Data Protection practice at Galadari Advocates is no small feat. What sparked your interest in this field, and how has your journey been in managing high-profile projects and transactions? Can you share a bit about what drew you to this field and some highlights of your experience so far?”
Heading the Intellectual Property (“IP”) and Data Protection practice at Galadari Advocates has indeed been a remarkable and rewarding journey. Well, I am old school on this, but for sure, it was my father, a techno legal patent attorney in the 80s, who sparked my first interest in the subject. At that time India was still in the process of developing their Intellectual property laws and the landscape was only evolving.
Reading through the files and books and general casual chats with him on various patent and trademark related issues got me curious. Reading through files and commentaries, I found myself drawn to the intricacies of intellectual property law, realizing that it was more than just a legal practice – it was a unique blend of law and business. Furthermore, IP encompasses a broad spectrum of activities including registration, protection and enforcing rights making it a dynamic field.
Dealing with clients from diverse backgrounds, ranging from multinational corporations to small and medium enterprises, has broadened my perspective and it is interesting to see the different dynamics between clients as their priorities towards their brand protection might be different and so would be their funding. An example for the same would be how, more often than not, high profile clients implement a proactive step towards protecting their IP whereas smaller clients implement a reactive approach, only when their rights have been violated. This is however shifting, with people getting more aware about the importance of protecting their IP.
Each project is made special by the personal touches of sitting down with clients, learning about their business, and developing methods to protect what is essential to their brand. This sector is rewarding and demanding due to its unique blend of legal expertise and commercial considerations.
With over 19 years of experience, including 17 in the Middle East, how have you seen the landscape of IP and Data Protection evolve in the region, and what trends do you anticipate in the coming years?
Over the past 17+ years of navigating the IP and Data Protection landscape in the Middle East, I’ve seen a whirlwind of changes that truly reflect the region’s commitment to staying at par with global standards.
One of the most exciting shifts has been the government’s proactive approach. Laws are no longer static; they’re in a constant state of evolution in alignment to the international standards. Signing the Madrid treaty has been one of the very progressive steps UAE IP office has taken.
Amendments in laws and regulations, international treaties, and a more practical stance on handling IP disputes showcase a dynamic and contemporary mindset. For instance, despite not being a common law country, it’s fascinating to note the newfound importance given to prior use in cases involving unregistered trademarks – a bit of a twist from the norm in civil law countries. Additionally, reducing the trademark registration fees, which were once sky-high but have now been dialed down to attract brands, has played a significant role in enticing businesses to set up shop in this first-to-file country.
In the realm of Data Protection, it’s been a journey from virtually no laws to now having our own Personal Data Protection Law (PDPL). I still recall, during the earlier times, we used to rely on DIFC DP law or other privacy laws when we were approached to advise on the DATA P regime of the country.
Nonetheless, today the country has its own law, and we’re eagerly awaiting implementing regulations to solidify the DP framework. Looking ahead, there’s a buzz in the air for Data Protection. Sectors like finance, health, and insurance now have specific DP laws, and businesses of all sizes are gearing up for compliance, especially considering the potential fines. AI and FinTech are particularly two upcoming fields to watch out for in UAE’s legal landscape.
What’s heartening is the growing awareness among individuals of their rights and the relevant laws. With the authorities lending a helping hand through guidance and support, we’re seeing a more significant number of complaints being filed. In a nutshell, it’s been an incredible personal journey witnessing these transformations in the Middle East. It feels like we’re on the cusp of a new era, one where the region not only embraces but thrives in the realms of IP and Data Protection.
As a member of the INTA Leadership Program and a regular speaker at international events, including chairing committees such as the Parallel Import Committee for the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia for INTA, can you share one memorable experience from these engagements? Additionally, what challenges and rewards have you encountered in leading initiatives on such a scale?
Being a part of the INTA Leadership Program and taking on roles such as chairing the Parallel Import Committee for the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia has been an incredibly rewarding experience. The scope wasn’t limited to just the Asia-Pacific region, Africa, and the Middle East; it extended to handling matters in 17 countries. This provided a unique opportunity to navigate the legal landscapes of diverse jurisdictions, each with its own legal backgrounds, cultures, and languages.
The most rewarding aspect was the exposure to such a wide array of legal professionals. Dealing with individuals from different knowledge backgrounds and approaches required flexibility. Instead of trying to change everyone else, the key was adapting to different nuances while staying focused on the end objectives.
One particularly memorable experience involved a case related to parallel imports in Australia. The Parallel Imports Committee at INTA, including myself, worked on creating a white paper analyzing the case and proposing the best solutions. The paper, submitted by the Australian team, was accepted and analyzed, showcasing the tangible impact of our collaborative efforts.
Another notable experience was engaging in policy dialogue with a Southeast Asian government. The goal was to shift from international exhaustion of rights to national exhaustion of rights. Being a part of a different country’s policy-making dialogue was fascinating, especially since I had no prior background in that particular jurisdiction.
However, leading initiatives on such a scale also came with its set of challenges. One challenge involved working with individuals who may not have had the same intentions or commitment to contributing to the committee’s objectives. Identifying those who weren’t actively participating and diplomatically encouraging holistic participation was a balancing act.
On the speaking front, the challenge was managing time effectively. Balancing commitments to billable work, client interactions, and INTA responsibilities required a keen understanding that the time invested in such leadership roles would contribute to the future development of clients and businesses. It was a juggling act, but the rewards of networking, learning, and contributing to the broader legal community made it all worthwhile!
Having worked with diverse teams across the APAC region, what cultural nuances have you found particularly interesting or challenging, and how do you navigate them in a professional setting?
Working with diverse teams in the APAC region, I’ve encountered interesting cultural nuances in decision-making, adaptability, and neutrality. Adapting my leadership style for consensus-building or direct approaches, adjusting communication styles, and maintaining impartiality have been key. Creating an inclusive environment that values diverse perspectives fosters effective collaboration and builds trust within the team.
You pursued additional education at the University of Pennsylvania and WIPO. Can you tell us about the motivations behind these choices and the impact they’ve had on your career? How has this knowledge enhanced your approach to handling data protection issues in the legal realm?
Embarking on additional education at the University of Pennsylvania and WIPO was a pivotal decision in my mid-career journey, driven by a deep-seated belief in the importance of continuous learning. As a lawyer, being the first point of contact for businesses necessitates a deep understanding of evolving legal landscapes to better cater to client needs.
The Middle East is undergoing rapid legal transformations and pursuing these courses was a deliberate effort to evolve as a lawyer in tandem to the ever-evolving legal landscape. It’s not just about knowledge; it’s about providing clients with informed and comprehensive guidance in navigating the intricacies of emerging legal frameworks. Studying the laws of countries that have already progressed helps you understand what to expect in a newer country like the UAE, where laws are still in the making. Understanding the trajectory of legal systems allows me to advise clients effectively, offering insights and strategies honed from the experiences of more developed legal landscapes.
Something that needs to be noted by young legal professionals and aspiring lawyers is that beyond personal growth, expanding your education serves as a strategic move to enhance your marketability. It’s about presenting yourself as a professional committed to continuous improvement. This also instills confidence in clients, knowing they are entrusting their legal matters to someone deeply invested in staying at the forefront of their field.
Balancing roles as Partner and Head of IP and Data Protection, Tech Laws, and Corporate Commercial matters must be demanding. How do you unwind and recharge outside of work?
Balancing my roles in various practice areas of law, can be intense. To unwind, I keep things simple and away from legal stuff. I love hanging out with friends—chatting about all sorts of things outside the legal world. It’s a great way to take a break and see things from different angles.
Movies are my escape. Getting lost in a good story helps me forget about work and just enjoy the moment. I’m also a fan of theatre. Most importantly, I make sure my free time is law-free. Keeping that separation helps me recharge, so when I get back to work, I’m ready to go with a fresh perspective.
Your clients span various industries such as fashion, FMCG, real estate, and automotive. Do you have a favorite or most interesting case that stands out in your career?
I had worked on a trademark cancellation case in the UAE before the Dubai courts a few years back. While the law did provide the grounds for illegal registration to be considered for cancelling the registration of a mark, at that time I was surprised to see that there was hardly any recognition of this aspect and the country’s lawyers and judiciary was only aware of implementing cancellation under non-use provision. Having said that, I maintained my submissions strictly on the basis of illegal registration grounds and drew the judiciary’s attention to the Paris convention articles that clearly lays down this principle. We also went ahead to educate the UAE court of first instance on the international treaties that UAE is a signatory to be under an obligation to follow these principles. Interestingly, while the case had a judgement date, I had shifted law firms during then. While I remained curious to know if that matter would be well accepted, to my surprise the case came back to me in my new firm through a change of lawyers that client had. I was glad to see that by then the case was decided and the court had accepted that legal principle and passed an order in our client’s favour. I dealt with the case till its end and the final execution of the favourable order. I always would think that when you’re meant to be the destined lawyer for a case, it does follow you through and sees daylight.
Given your wealth of experience and expertise, what advice or suggestions would you offer to aspiring legal professionals and those entering the field of intellectual property and data protection to thrive and make a positive impact in the coming generation?
That’s a wonderful question! Starting out, keeping an open mind has been key for me. I’d encourage exploration and experimentation with different legal fields. Sometimes, your true passion might lie in an unexpected place, hence don’t put yourself in a box during the beginning stages of your career. Take advantage of the beginning years of your legal profession and take time to explore your interests. Understanding the business side of things is crucial. The intersection of legal matters with business decisions is common these days, so cultivating a solid grasp of business operations enhances your effectiveness as a legal professional. As previously mentioned, continuous learning has been a cornerstone of my career. The legal landscape, especially in areas like intellectual property and data protection, is dynamic
LinkedIn has proven to be an invaluable tool for me! Actively engaging on platforms like LinkedIn, sharing insights, and building a professional network can open doors and provide valuable connections. Most importantly, knock on every possible door, because you may never know what lies on the other side!
All being said, hard work is non-negotiable. Setting annual goals and consistently putting in the effort has been my approach. Regularly reassessing and adjusting these goals has kept me agile and responsive to changing circumstances. However, it’s equally important to work smart and finding efficient ways to navigate challenges is the way to go.
It is important for young legal professionals to also understand that mistakes are part of the journey. Personally, I’ve found it essential to accept them, learn from them, and actively work towards minimizing their recurrence. Each mistake is an opportunity for personal and professional growth.
Above all, attitude matters! Employers often look for a positive and determined mindset. If you bring the drive and passion to the table, you can overcome challenges and carve a successful path in your chosen field.
And yes, I love learning from others and that’s been my mantra always to quote Steve Job …’Stay Hungry and Stay Foolish’ it certainly keeps one going.
