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  • “To succeed in the legal industry, one must possess a strong foundation in legal principles as well as critical thinking abilities. To succeed as a lawyer, you must be proficient in legal writing and research skills.” – Sumes Dewan, Managing Partner at Lex Favios

    “To succeed in the legal industry, one must possess a strong foundation in legal principles as well as critical thinking abilities. To succeed as a lawyer, you must be proficient in legal writing and research skills.” – Sumes Dewan, Managing Partner at Lex Favios

    This interview has been published by Namrata Singh and The SuperLawyer Team

    Reflecting on the early days of your career, could you share with us how you embarked on your journey in law and the challenges you faced when starting Lex Favios? What were some of the key lessons you learned during those formative years?

    I had a passion for Law from my early days and initially started as a Litigation lawyer, and after a few years in the profession found my calling in corporate law and eventually took up more specialised areas such as Mergers & Acquisitions, Corporate Finance and   Hospitality. I spent 18 years working with large Indian Law Firms and was a Partner with laws Firms such as Fox Mandal & Desai Diwanji, before I embarked on my journey to start Lex Favios. One of the biggest challenges was to retain clients, and find the right resources and lawyers to be part of a startup Law Firm. The initial one year was more challenging, as it took a lot of convincing to clients that we can provide quality legal services in diverse areas of practice. Further, another key challenge was hiring good lawyers with experience. However, we were able to retain talent and provide quality legal advice to the clients, by ensuring that each practice area has lawyers with sound legal knowledge of its respective field. The key lesson has been that a great Law Firm is built with great human resource and by ensuring that you provide legal advise only in areas in which the Firm has an expertise, as the clients today are looking for specialised legal advice.

    Being admitted as an Honorary Fellow of the Association of Fellows and Legal Scholars is a remarkable achievement. Could you share how this recognition came about, and how has it impacted your professional journey? Additionally, with numerous awards under your belt, how do you handle the balance between individual recognition and the collective success of Lex Favios?

    I always had a passion for legal writing, and I contributed  to the journals of  Honorary Fellow of the Association of Fellows and Legal Scholars and they published my Article in the Journal, which was a great achievement which lead them to admit me as an Honorary Fellow of the Association of Fellows and Legal Scholars. The said achievement was a great validation of the legal work being done by me and also led to being recognised by the clients. All the awards I have won or been honoured with has been a great affirmation of the work done by me in the legal field and in diverse areas of practice. Each award is a validation of the legal contribution to our clients and the faith that clients demonstrate. The individual recognition helps in pitching to new clients and for new work, as it demonstrates our expertise in diverse legal areas and part of “A” List of top 100 Indian lawyers, goes a long way in boosting client confidence with the quality legal advice the Firm can offer. 

    India has seen some notable legal developments recently. Are there any ongoing cases or legal trends that you find particularly intriguing or impactful for the legal community?

    Chief Justice DY Chandrachud established the group of companies’ doctrine as a valid and applicable theory in Indian arbitration law. For India-related dealings, the Cox and Kings ruling offers a comprehensive analysis of the Doctrine and its applicability in India. It is made explicit that signing an arbitration agreement does not automatically make one a “party” to the arbitration agreement. In situations when businesses are affiliated and engage in related transactions, this could be interpreted as agreeing to be bound by the arbitration agreement. Corporate groups should be careful to make sure the transaction is structured appropriately and that their conduct is in keeping with their aim when they want only the signatory firm to be bound by the arbitration agreement. They also need to be careful not to interfere unnecessarily with discussions or the fulfilment of contractual duties by another group company. The parties may also think about including explicit language in the contract to this effect.

    Given your focus on capital markets and corporate finance, how do you navigate the complexities of international transactions, and what advice do you often find yourself giving to clients in this regard? 

    The key strategy I follow is gaining a thorough understanding of the laws and rules governing the relevant jurisdictions. This involves being aware of recent changes to the financial rules, corporate governance guidelines, and securities legislation. 

    I have been instrumental in handling various cross border transactions, both on the M&A and capital markets wherein our role goes beyond advising on Indian Laws and we work in collaboration with counsels in other jurisdictions, to understand the regulations pertaining to acquisition of equity, listing of shares in other jurisdictions other than India and bringing them in sync with Indian Laws. Indian companies listing outside India or setting ups operations outside India, need to adhere to both Indian Laws and laws of the country where the investment is being made. It is important for a legal counsel to be aware of laws of both the countries and advise the client on the applicable regulations and compliances.  Unexpected difficulties during and after the transaction are reduced by having a thorough awareness of each entity’s financial situation, legal status, and reputation. Pre-transaction planning, negotiation tactics, and post-transaction integration plans are all included in this. 

    For aspiring lawyers entering the field today, the legal landscape is vast and evolving. What areas or emerging trends do you believe hold the most promise for young legal professionals, and why?

    The need for legal experts who comprehend data protection, cybersecurity, and the legal ramifications of cutting-edge technologies like blockchain and artificial intelligence is rising along with our increasing reliance on technology. Legal experts who focus on privacy and data protection may assist companies in navigating laws like General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and provide guidance on the best ways to handle sensitive data, as data privacy is becoming an increasingly important topic. Remote work and legal IT tools are being welcomed by the legal profession. In the changing legal landscape, lawyers who are skilled at using technology to provide effective legal services and facilitate remote cooperation will be in a strong position. The areas of practice such as cyber security, date protection, artificial intelligence and insolvency are the new emerging legal practice areas for young professionals in the field of law. 

    Given the dynamic nature of technology and its impact on various industries, how important do you think it is for law students to develop expertise in technology law? Are there specific skills or knowledge areas within this field that you would recommend they prioritize?

    Having a solid understanding of technology law is crucial for law students in the quickly changing legal world of today. Technology law interacts with many different businesses and legal fields, covering a broad spectrum of legal concerns pertaining to the use, advancement, and regulation of technology. Almost every business, including healthcare, banking, entertainment, and others, depends heavily on technology. In order to solve the particular issues posed by emerging technologies like blockchain, cybersecurity, and artificial intelligence, it is imperative to comprehend the legal ramifications of these innovations. It is also crucial to comprehend the legal ramifications of entrepreneurship and new company models as technology continues to spur innovation. Technology lawyers may help new and existing businesses navigate legal frameworks, protect their intellectual property, and make sure they are following industry-specific requirements. 

    Regarding specialized knowledge and abilities in the field of technology law, law students who are interested in this area should prioritize learning about cybersecurity and data protection laws and regulations, since these issues are becoming more common. Technology lawyers frequently handle matters pertaining to trade secrets, copyrights, patents, and trademarks. Understanding intellectual property law is crucial to safeguarding the inventions and developments of clients.  It is crucial to be knowledgeable about privacy laws and regulations in light of the growing concerns about privacy. This entails being aware of local privacy regulations as well as the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

    Lex Favios has received recognition as the Best New Law Firm and in various other categories. What do you attribute this success to, and what goals do you have for the firm’s future?

    As a Law Firm, I understand that teamwork, creativity, and a common goal lead to success rather than individual accomplishments. I wish to express my gratitude to our team for their excellent teamwork in navigating the complexities of the legal field by playing to each other’s strengths. I attribute this success to my skilled and dedicated team. The Firm has a dedicated team of lawyers, for each Practice area and each team plays a vital role in making the Firm meets its goal. Their expertise and commitment contributed significantly to the Firm’s success. As the legal landscape constantly changes, flexibility is essential. What has made us unique is our dedication to remaining on the forefront of legal trends, fostering innovation, and making investments in professional growth. In addition to overcoming the difficulties, we have grown stronger, more resilient, and better suited to assist our clients in a world that is always evolving. 

    The Firm is a member of Legal Netlink Alliance, a member network of USA and Europe, which enables us to provide legal services across the globe.

    As for setting goals for the future, it includes the following expanding the firm’s legal knowledge to provide a wider range of services to clients, establishing new offices or broadening the firm’s clientele to include clients in other areas, bringing in new business and strengthening ties with current clients to grow the clientele of the company. 

    Beyond your professional achievements, we’re curious about your personal interests. What hobbies or activities do you find yourself drawn to when you’re not immersed in the legal world?

    Beyond my professional engagements, I love to spend some time on reading books, playing golf on the weekends, watching law related web series and spending time with my family and kids, which is a nice rejuvenation and charges me for the upcoming week. 

    For aspiring lawyers or students pursuing a legal career, what aspects of their college journey do you believe are most crucial for their professional development? Are there specific types of internships or experiences you recommend they focus on to better prepare for the challenges of the legal field? 

    I suppose the most crucial aspect of their college is networking. One should build a strong network within the legal community. The students should attend seminars and conferences to connect with lawyers, judges and other legal professionals. To succeed in the legal industry, one must possess a strong foundation in legal principles as well as critical thinking abilities. To succeed as a lawyer, you must be proficient in legal writing and research skills. Finally, they should be taught and practice ethical and professional decorum. Integrity and trustworthiness are essential in the legal field. I believe that they should explore several legal fields as well in order to have a comprehensive viewpoint. This will help them in making educated decisions regarding potential career pathways.

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  • “Figure out your purpose in life, have a larger vision and chase that, you are more than your job, your accomplishments and your possessions”- Kudrat Dutta Chaudhary, Commissioner, Immigrant Rights Commission, San Francisco, California, United States

    “Figure out your purpose in life, have a larger vision and chase that, you are more than your job, your accomplishments and your possessions”- Kudrat Dutta Chaudhary, Commissioner, Immigrant Rights Commission, San Francisco, California, United States

    This Interview has been published by Pragya Chandni  and The SuperLawyer Team

    Ma’am, can you please share the pivotal moments or experiences that led you to pursue a career in law, especially focusing on your journey from studying at the Army Institute of Law to earning an LL.M. at The Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy?

    I always had a justice oriented personality and the choice was either between Law or Journalism for me when I was growing up. I also was very clear since very early on that I wanted to work in the field of women’s rights and gender based violence and with that I decided that Law would be a path best suited for me. At 22,   I published a novel on the human trafficking of women in Nepal to India after the Nepal earthquake and after completing Law from the Army Institute of Law I went on to study at the Fletcher School where I focussed specifically on gender based violence and International Law. I wouldn’t say that there was one moment that defined my trajectory but I’d say that just the conviction that  my aim in life is to use my education, privilege, knowledge and expertise to help women led me from Law School to graduate school to the positions I’ve held thereafter. 

    Your LL.M. focused on International Laws, and you received the Honos Civicus Award for Civic Engagement. How did these experiences shape your perspective on the intersection of law and civic engagement, and how do you see it influencing your current work?

    I feel both Law and civic engagement have a symbiotic relationship for example it was Raja Ram Mohan Roy’s advocacy against ’Sati’ to legally put an end to it in the 1800’s and today we see the role of civic engagement in creation and abolishing of laws over matters important to the current times. For me, being active and participating in the community, advocating for one’s community and influencing positive change is my mantra and I live these beliefs by being involved in groups and advocacy over issues that I am most passionate about like women’s rights and immigrant rights. 

    As a law clerk specializing in asylum law and gender rights at the Law Office of Robert B. Jobe, can you elaborate on how your work has involved strategizing refugee and asylum claims based on gender-based persecution? What challenges and successes have you encountered in this role?

    In my previous role, I worked with battered women who were fleeing persecution that they suffered in their home countries and it involved documenting their persecution, highlighting issues that were in tandem with the theory of their case. My journey with a client often started from building rapport with them which sometimes can be hard when they have suffered immense trauma in their lives, to creating a safe space where they can feel comfortable in expressing themselves and sharing their stories. One challenge with this work is that sometimes the other person is not open to seeking therapy or doesn’t live in a community that would help them work through their trauma; I learnt how to tackle this bump over the years and I feel the more you grow as a professional and person, there are different approaches you can use to understand their resistance to therapy while also giving them other suggestions to seek support from a place of empathy. 

    You’ve engaged with governmental organizations like USCIS and the Executive Office of Immigration Review. Could you share how these partnerships have contributed to your work in supporting vulnerable populations, and what impact your stakeholder engagement strategy has had on your cases?

    My engagement with EOIR and USCIS as a Law Clerk was limited to the work I was doing but given my position as the Vice Chair of the San Francisco Immigrant Rights Commission, I have more freedom to persuasively raise and inquire about immigrant issues with USCIS that impact immigrant population of San Francisco. That said both EOIR and USCIS are Federal bodies and stakeholder engagement with them happens at the Federal level that hopefully I am a part of at some point in my life.  

    Serving as a Commissioner for the San Francisco Immigrant Rights Commission, you’re involved in developing strategies for human rights and labor rights for immigrants. How do you balance your advocacy work with the practical aspects of implementing policies and programs to address these issues?

    San Francisco Immigrant Rights Commission works on conducting special hearings to make recommendations to the Mayor and Board of Supervisors on Immigrant rights issues which span from creation of employment for asylum seekers to housing for immigrants to taking a stance on H1B layoffs to standing in solidarity with DACA recipients whenever the country fails them. Once we have a special hearing, we review the recommendations, debate them and then forward them. This debate is often rich and detailed with every commissioner bringing practical questions to the mix and we also have the San Francisco Attorney’s office and Office of Civic Engagement and Immigrant Affairs to help us through the procedure. At the end of the day, the aim is to be an accurate representation of the issues of the immigrant community and should there be a gap between the recommendations and the practical implementation of policy, the Mayor and the Board of Supervisors may reject it. 

    Your role as the Chair of Women’s March San Francisco involves designing and implementing human rights programs. Can you provide insights into the specific programs you’ve developed, and how collaboration with government and grassroots organizations has played a role in advancing these initiatives?

    The Women’s March San Francisco is an inactive group right now but in the past I have worked on organizing First Amendment Marches in San Francisco on reproductive rights and have collaborated with different initiatives like we have co-hosted panels on equal pay for women followed by a movie screening (on the discrepancy of pay between the men and women’s football teams in the US) and we led a workshop on how to be active beyond the marches. The beauty about a group like WMSF is that it is an all volunteer group founded by women who are epitomes of  ’stand up fight back’ and has been around since 2016. WMSF has also amplified the work of other grassroots organizations for years and has provided support (whenever possible) if needed.

    As a Research Assistant for Prof. Dyan Mazurana on the topic of child brides in humanitarian settings, how did your work contribute to addressing evidence gaps in child marriage during crises, and what lessons did you draw from this experience?

    My work as a Research Assistant was to assist with a literature review on the topic and then identify key stakeholders who possess experience and practical knowledge in the field of child brides in humanitarian settings so that they could be interviewed and their insights could be recorded by Prof. Mazurana. As my first assignment as a graduate student, a lot of my work revolved around planning logistics for interviews and communicating with the interviewees from INGO’s and governments around the world and I definitely learnt a lot in this process. 

    Lastly, what advice would you give to fresh graduates aspiring to make a positive impact in the legal and humanitarian spheres based on your journey?

    Figure out your purpose in life, have a larger vision and chase that, you are more than your job, your accomplishments and your possessions. AND give back to your community!

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  • “Crafting legal solutions is like composing a symphony – each note, each contract, contributes to the masterpiece. Proud to bridge the gap between music and law.” – K P Sivaramakrishnan, Founder at Sivaramakrishnan Law Offices

    “Crafting legal solutions is like composing a symphony – each note, each contract, contributes to the masterpiece. Proud to bridge the gap between music and law.” – K P Sivaramakrishnan, Founder at Sivaramakrishnan Law Offices

    This interview has been published by Namrata Singh and The SuperLawyer Team

    You made a transition from a career as a musician and music producer to practicing law, specifically specializing in Intellectual Property Rights. Can you share the pivotal moment or realization that led you to shift your focus to law, and how has your background in music influenced your approach to your legal practice?

    Firstly, I did not have a career as a musician. I started playing the keyboard when I was 12 (all thanks to my father), and later taught myself how to play the piano. Eventually, I started writing and composing. I even wrote during my board exams, just letting out my thoughts and experiences on paper. While I wanted to become a musician back then, my parents were clear when they said ‘get a degree’ and then to follow my passion. So, music really did not have anything to do with me pursuing law. Just wanted a degree.

    When I was in college, I started playing in a couple of local concerts and worked on a few documentaries/short films for my friends. The two worlds of music and law came together when I was interning in 2012 in Bangalore, and I read about Entertainment and Media Law. The logic was, law is in everything around us, so why not in music? I started finding case laws, scope of the field and how to make a career as a Media and Entertainment Lawyer. I got support from my then senior I was interning with, Mr. Harikrishna Holla, who without a moment of thought, gave me case laws to begin with. Over the next 3 years of my bachelors, I interned at renowned IP firms, with a specific focus on Media and Entertainment.

    To be honest, the process of writing, composing, producing music, watching my friends direct, edit or write scripts gave me the behind the scenes experience. This really helped in understanding contracts, and how Copyright works. Today, when I am advising an artist, or just talking to them about their music (because why not), I understand it much more than a few of my contemporaries. The Artists also like it when I do not ask them to explain technical terms.

    There’s nothing to complain about, as I am living the best of both worlds and finally I am able to do what I always wanted to do.

    As the founder of SIVARAMAKRISHNAN LAW OFFICES, what principles guide your approach to providing legal solutions, particularly in the realms of Business and Intellectual Property Rights?

    Before starting my own practice in 2021, I had worked with law firms and media companies. I dealt with both Indian and international clients/entities and when I decided to go independent, I found my place in working with start-ups and individual businesses. I figured that there are start-ups/small businesses with less than 5 employees, and have freelancers or consultants on board serving them in their day-to-day activities, so they might not need a law firm with many lawyers on board.

    Thus, I started pitching my services as an IP and Business lawyer, who will not only take care of their IP portfolio or streamline it, and will draft/review contracts for them at a cost which is nominal. Even the businesses understood that there is a lot that can be taken care of with a minimal team and less resources.

    One principle I stand by till date is, giving time to the clients. Working with law firms, I saw that the business decisions in big companies are taken internally, and the work that was sent across was limited. On the other hand, small businesses suffer as they do not have anyone on board, thus, I proposed I will attend internal meetings, conduct negotiations for the clients, and advise them based on their vision and future prospects. Till date there are a few clients who take note of this and want my presence or time as if I am part of their management team.

    Lastly, most businesses run away from the thought of reaching out to a lawyer. It has a lot to do with the costs they will incur, and the stereotype image of a lawyer/advocate. So it’s better to make them comfortable with the thought that lawyers are essential and bring value to the table. I also tell them that if they start their business properly, the likelihood of them running into any kind of problems when they grow or have an exit, reduces.

    All my clients and those who approach me, know how I work. So if anyone is in line with my thoughts, they will stick around. Just give them something extra.

    Your experience covers various industries, including entertainment, packaging, FMCG, healthcare, and finance. Among these diverse sectors, is there a particular type of case or client that stands out as the most memorable or challenging for you, and why?

    One case does stand out for me, and is still very close to my heart. When I was working with a law firm, I worked on a proposition i.e. ‘Registration of geographical marks’. During the registration process of that geographical trade mark, it was challenging to explain to the Trade Marks Examiners that the mark applied for was eligible and entitled to registration. A similar matter was being heard before the IPAB for the similar proposition, and I was working on that too. Unfortunately, the order was unfavourable and we had to file a writ petition before the High Court of Delhi. With little to no experience in handling a litigation matter, I was given the task to draft it, and research for the proposition.

    I still remember I researched the changes in the Indian Trade Marks Law from the 19th Century till then, and also learnt how the common law developed internationally. I struck gold when I found a similar case which was decided by the UK Intellectual Property Office. It felt amazing to have found at least an explanation to the proposition, and then began the process of drafting the Writ. We finally filed the Writ Petition and got a decently favourable order based. That was my first litigation experience.

    My key takeaways from this experience were; 1) that part of being a lawyer/advocate is to think out-of-the-box most of the times, and that’s how the law remains dynamic for the times to come; 2) I learnt how a matter is filed and presented before the Court; 3) gave me confidence in dealing with challenging work. Today, because of that amazing experience, I am advising other Advocates in IP matters as an external counsel, and also helping businesses solve their issues from management structures to business proposals.

    For me, the major credit goes to my seniors who had my back at that time.

    Congratulations on being credited as the legal advisor for the feature film “Chitrakut” (2022). Can you share your experience working on this project and any unique challenges you faced as a legal advisor for the film industry?

    Thank you, I ticked it from my bucket list. The film had already premiered at a film festival, and the Producer/Director of the film reached out when they were editing the film for the big screen. That’s where I worked closely with the production team on their rights and interests in various assets of the Film. We negotiated and entered into various film distribution, music distribution and rights management agreements, among other things.

    The best part was it was the Producer’s debut film, and so was mine (as a lawyer. There were back to back meetings and research that I had to take up, to ensure that the project sails smoothly. It was an amazing experience to see my name up on the big screen, and I still thank them for allowing me to be a part of it. That opened the doors for similar projects.

    I think if I have to pin on something as a challenge, it would be the fact that I worked on it alone, independently. I had only been independent for 2 months before I began with the project, so this was a good boost. I am surely waiting for more projects.

    You’ve worked closely with Bollywood singers, musicians, and publishers. In your experience, what are the current challenges and opportunities for artists in the music industry, especially concerning royalties and benefits?

    It’s unfortunate that the term ‘Royalty’ has been glorified so much that the artists feel that’s the only point of concern for them. They can’t be more wrong, as royalty is only one stream of revenue for them.

    India has thousands, if not lakhs of artists in India, who are day in day out writing, composing, producing music, collaborating with other artists, but I bet majority of them do not think of it as a business. Sadly, many of them are not even registered with the IPRS (Indian Performing Rights Society). I personally believe many of them believe in fame or celebrity status, or want to be signed by a which is not wrong, but only a tip of the iceberg. If history has shown us anything, it all fades away, for most of them.

    How does one resolve this? Artists need to start learning and understanding the concepts of publishing, revenue share and most importantly about their rights. I am pro towards curriculum which teaches artists about the music business, but many of them are still unaware of the insights. I have been working with artists who come from small towns, and they had never dealt with contracts. Some even started using ChatGPT and don’t have any idea about what they are signing.

    Today, there are many YouTube channels, podcasts, articles, etc. which share a lot of information on ways to scale your music career. I even know artists in my peers who have taken up certificate courses in media and entertainment law. Even if someone cannot learn due to their limitations or circumstances, there are lawyers, managers, freelancers, and even senior artists who are ready to assist them with their issues.

    Lastly, there are associations such as MCAI – The Music Composers Association of India, IMI (Indian Music Industry), ISAMRA (Indian Singers And Musicians Rights Association), among many others, who are not only providing information to artists, but they will get access to a community.

    I have coined my 3C’s, 1) Create; 2) Contract; 3) Collect.

    As someone who believes in making an IP conscious India, how do you break down complex legal concepts to make them more accessible, and what steps do you think are crucial for increasing awareness of intellectual property rights in the country?

    Since the time I was introduced to IP in my second year of law school, I saw the world differently. I always say this, ‘IP is in everything’, whether it’s the phone, website, content, chair, to medicines. And how many people would actually know that they have created IP? Do they exploit it effectively?

    In the past 3-4 years I have uploaded and written content on specific topics on social media. I answer questions on Quora, and don’t look at it as a platform for lead generation. There are some very interesting questions that are posted there by people, which shows how aware they have become about their rights. I see a lot of informative content from my contemporaries on social media.

    I never intended to make an IP conscious India on my own. It’s impossible and foolish to think that I could. So it becomes important that the future generation of lawyers know the kind of opportunities that lie in the field. I have taken up opportunities to conduct workshops/seminars in colleges, both offline and online, where the students get a hang of what they can do in the world of IP. Even if I am able to make an effect on 2 out of 100 students, I consider it a job well done. Some of the students who interned with me have gone out and shared knowledge and information to others around them.

    Effective resources and courses for non legal businesses are important. IP Law is already part of many creative education programs, but there needs to be more conversation on them. Conferences, online seminars, interviews, Q/A rounds, etc. are being done and have to be conducted by many more people.

    In addition to your legal practice, you’ve conducted seminars in colleges to provide a unique perspective on IPR. What motivated you to engage with students in this way, and what message do you aim to convey to the next generation of legal minds?

    I learnt and perceived law in a different way. I was not academically strong, and I would give credit to the places I interned and worked for what I have learnt. My approach to law was defined by the practical aspects. I understood music so it became easier to understand the process of creation and distribution of the songs. I focussed on what was happening in the media and entertainment industry, understood the business before I advised a client.

    Most of the students, till date, think that one has to become an Advocate to have a decent career in law, which is so not true. I have hardly done any litigation, and I have found so many avenues to curate my practice today. I am an advisor, consultant to the management, personal manager to artists, and even deal with their royalties. So why not share the way I did?

    Time to time I have spoken at webinars, seminars and workshops for colleges, and I aimed to share information on practices which are not commonly heard of. To keep things interesting, I share cases or instances which the students can easily relate to, which eventually peaks their interest. My advice to young minds has always been to look beyond what they see. Again, law is in everything, so definitely there is something for everyone. You could be an artist manager if you’re into music, or work with production houses if you’re a movie buff, book readers can review scripts (yes, lawyers do that), people with an inclination to managerial positions can be part of a company and fix it from the inside. It’s just a matter of time before they figure out their interest and start working towards it.

    Your journey involves working with renowned law firms and companies, including your tenure at Showbox and 1 Sports. How has your experience working in these different environments shaped your understanding of the legal landscape, especially in the media and entertainment sectors?

    I saw a stark difference between the practices lawyers have to take up when they are at a law firm or at a company. I feel that in the field of IP, the experience in a law firm is dependent on the portfolio that you are alloted  whereas, at a company you’re like the legal part of a brain. At the law firm, I got to work on different kinds of trade mark matters for clients from various industries. But at the company I got to know the internal decisions of brand creation, as I got to work with various departments. It helps a lot and gives one an edge when they work closely with the business. Some are in fact able to achieve it working at law firms.

    At Showbox, I could interact with industry professionals such as A&R (a concept I came across for the first time), and worked on creation of different IPs for the channels. At 1 Sports, I got to work on Distribution deals for the channel along with broadcasting agreements. In short, I not only understood and drafted , but saw most of them practically happen in front of my eyes.

    The icing on the cake was to meet artists.

    Looking ahead, you mentioned working on a model for IP Asset Management. Could you provide a glimpse into how this model aims to benefit individuals and businesses in effectively managing their IP portfolios?

    In the past two years I have come across clients with different sizes, revenue, and approach to business. But there was one thing common in most of them. They don’t understand the difference between ‘registering a trade mark’ and ‘creating a brand’. That’s where I bring my expertise and resources.

    A business might already have an IP attorney on record, but creating a brand is an internal process, and usually a lawyer is not engaged by the company except during coining the trade mark. But, have they determined their IPs? In most cases, no. So, this becomes my chance to become a consultant for the Company, for a short period of time, where I would shortlist their IPs, make sure appropriate applications have been filed, rights and ownerships are in place, and finally, they are streamlined so their regular lawyer can take care of it.

    It’s purely an IP analyst kind of a position, with no intent to solicit clients. I have already done this for 3 clients last year, and that’s how I came across this idea. From what I see, this is beyond the generic IP registrations services. The whole process to build a deck on it is still pending, but the work has already started for my regular clients.

    On a lighter note, outside of your professional life, do you have any hobbies or interests that you find particularly rejuvenating, and how do you balance your work with personal pursuits?

    I have a piano at home, which I would switch on and start playing random songs, latest or old ones. Sometimes good compositions come out of it by accident. I write poems too.

    As a kid I was a bookworm, which I couldn’t keep up when I started working. But for the past two years I have managed to finish around 15 books each year. I know it might not seem like a lot, but I am glad I could catch up on that childhood interest. Past 6 months I have read a few non fiction books, which have really helped in my management, negotiations and people skills too.

    Being a sole practitioner, I have some freedom and control over my time. I can decide the clients I onboard. Sometimes I push the brakes on a random weekday, only to watch a movie and not work. I hope my clients don’t read this!

    But there are consequences of habits too. My family might complain that I sit late at night to work, while I have the day to keep things light. Now, as I am growing older, I have realised that health is important and there has to be a system to keep everything from work to life in check.

    Everything is fine till it’s kept under control.

    I would really like to thank Team Superlawyer, especially Namrata for reaching out. It has been a pleasure answering the interview questions, which have been well crafted. I think I can take this off of my bucket list!

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  • “Conducting cross-examinations is the true test of a disputes lawyer. It tests your drafting, critical thinking, articulation, strategic ability, presence of mind, knowledge of human behavior and much more. The foremost challenge lies in the exhaustive groundwork that precedes the actual cross examination.”- Rohan Batra, Partner, Anagram Partners

    “Conducting cross-examinations is the true test of a disputes lawyer. It tests your drafting, critical thinking, articulation, strategic ability, presence of mind, knowledge of human behavior and much more. The foremost challenge lies in the exhaustive groundwork that precedes the actual cross examination.”- Rohan Batra, Partner, Anagram Partners

    This Interview has been published by Pragya Chandni  and The SuperLawyer Team

    Can you please share the story of how you decided to pursue a career in law, and what specific factors or experiences led you to specialize in disputes, particularly company and commercial disputes?

    The decision to pursue law was not a straight choice but a process of elimination and discovery. Given my family background and as someone who opted for commerce, I was presented with two choices: follow my father’s footsteps as a chartered accountant or pursue my studies in commerce. Right after my boards, I enrolled myself in esteemed colleges like CBS and SRCC.

    In this time, I had developed a keen interest in analysing and comprehending intricate concepts, coupled with a passion for engaging in public speaking. It was during this period that I had the privilege of witnessing the legendary, Late Ram Jethmalani, showcase his extraordinary oral advocacy skills. This experience left an indelible impression, and my intuition directed me to the pursuit of law. Once I decided to pursue law, I naturally gravitated towards disputes or as we litigators colloquially refer to where the real “juice” of the legal profession is. Immediately after the last term, I explored a corporate position placement. However, I ultimately declined, much to the bemusement of my peers who continue to jest about my decision till day.

    With over 12 years of experience in the field, can you walk us through the key milestones and challenges in your career, from joining Shardul Amarchand Mangaldas & Co. to founding your boutique litigation chambers in Delhi in 2019?

    My journey commenced with a stint at a tax litigation firm, Economic Laws Practice. Under the mentorship of Mr. Tarun Gulati, today a distinguished tax senior counsel, who led the Delhi tax litigation practice at the time, I learnt the basics of basics. Transitioning to SAMCO marked a pivotal juncture. Here, I was exposed to the world of arbitration and commercial litigation. I was fortunate to be guided by Mr. Dhruv Dewan, my supervising partner at the time. Under his guidance, I refined my legal acumen and navigated the landscape of challenging yet intellectually stimulating work. In those days, burning the midnight oil was not just a phrase but a frequent reality. I vividly recall a period where I was given the opportunity to single-handedly manage three high stake live arbitrations, overseeing cross-examinations, evidence, and final hearings in a span of twelve months—an arduous yet immensely rewarding experience. Personally, my involvement in the Tata-Mistry legal battle was a watershed moment that transformed my perspective on legal strategy, which was akin to playing a highly strategic chess game. SAMCO, for me, was an institution where every case became a classroom, and every challenge was an opportunity for growth. I am grateful to Mr. and Mrs. Shroff and all my former colleagues for this immensely enriching experience.

    In hindsight and given that I hail from a non-legal background, the decision to establish my boutique litigation chambers in 2019 was characterized more by audacity than meticulous planning. Gratefully, the leap of faith bore fruit. This transition has been instrumental in introducing me to the practice of law, its diverse challenges and putting me on an entrepreneurial journey.

    Your profile mentions your involvement in a 5 Judge constitutional bench, Cox and Kings, before the Supreme Court of India. Could you provide insights into the significance of that case and how it reflects your expertise in arbitration and company disputes?

    My involvement in the constitutional reference before a 5-Judge bench of the Supreme Court of India in Cox and Kings was unexpected. I had the honor of closely working with Mr. Darius Khambata, Senior Advocate, a renowned arbitration expert, in shaping our strategy and articulating our case. Mr. Khambata aptly coined our approach as establishing “guardrails” to manage the expanding purview of the Groups Company Doctrine (GCD)- a legal doctrine rooted in the Chloro Controls India (P) Ltd. v. Severn Trent Water Purification Inc. & Anr. case.

    In the field of arbitration, we observed a concerning trend wherein GCD was being indiscriminately applied to bind non-consenting parties to arbitration. Our task was to conduct a comprehensive analysis of global practices pertaining to the application of GCD, presenting a legal threshold, and spell out safeguards for invoking and applying GCD within the context of arbitration. It is personally gratifying to note that majority of arguments put forth by Mr. Khambata were accepted by the constitutional bench in the Cox and Kings case, which is now the authoritative ruling on GCD in arbitration. For me, this experience underscores the challenge of navigating complex constitutional issues whilst balancing the contemporary challenges in the field of arbitration.

    Congratulations on your Amazon bestseller, “Monk Your Mind: 10 Secrets to Transform the Mind.” What inspired you to write a book, and how do you see the connection between your legal expertise and the themes explored in your book?

    While the direct connection between my legal practice and my debut book is not overt, the book reflects a convergence of two key elements. Firstly, my training as a lawyer played a crucial role in honing the skills necessary for writing a book. Secondly, the professional challenges inherent in my legal career significantly influenced the themes I chose to explore in the book.

    The book fundamentally emphasizes the notion that each individual possesses the capacity to transform their mind and leverage it to achieve their goals. Drawing from the rigors of legal practice I experienced, the book advocates embracing trials in life. It underscores the principle that undertaking difficult endeavors is the catalyst for personal growth and simplifying life, challenging the conventional notion to the contrary.

    What motivated your move to Anagram Partners, and how does your current role differ from your previous experiences, especially in terms of handling alternative dispute resolution, commercial and corporate litigation, insolvency, and bankruptcy?

    Joining Anagram Partners marked the initiation of a new chapter in my professional journey, and the motivation behind this transition was multi-faceted. From a workplace, Anagram Partners distinguishes itself through exemplary work practices- a candid feedback system, constant pursuit of excellence and a focus on executing superior legal strategy.

    Since the inception of Anagram Partners, I have had the privilege of being deeply involved in the disputes practice. Working alongside partners who are eminent legal experts in their respective domains has contributed immensely to my professional growth. It’s here I transitioned from a practice of law to “business” of law. As a firm, we operate as a cohesive unit, and leverage cross-practice expertise. This helps in providing a comprehensive and nuanced approach to handling matters, thereby enriching the quality of advice provided to clients. With its diverse disputes profile, Anagram Partners has not only afforded me the opportunity to refine my legal skills but has also instilled in me a profound understanding of the holistic dimensions involved in legal practice. I am immensely grateful to all my partners for this opportunity.

    Given your proficiency in conducting cross-examinations of witnesses before courts and tribunals, could you share some insights into the strategies you employ and the challenges you face in the process?

    Conducting cross-examinations is the true test of a disputes lawyer. It tests your drafting, critical thinking, articulation, strategic ability, presence of mind, knowledge of human behavior and much more. The foremost challenge lies in the exhaustive groundwork that precedes the actual cross examination. Achieving proficiency in this aspect requires an in-depth understanding of the case from both sides’ perspectives. Prior to formulating questions, I try to wear the hat of not just a lawyer but that also of the witness, the opposing counsel, and even the presiding judge or arbitrator. Although time-consuming, this comprehensive approach not only fosters a nuanced understanding of the case but also provides a strategic edge over potential challenges in the cross-examination process.

    You’ve published pieces on commercial laws, arbitration, and foreign investment. How does your commitment to writing contribute to your legal practice, and how do you approach speaking engagements at both domestic and international fora on arbitration?

    Writing on topics related to commercial laws, arbitration, or the field of law I practice is driven by a genuine desire for self-expression. It is my belief that speaking and writing are strong mediums through which one can articulate, share and influence perspectives on various issues. While the external perspective may be to positiononeself as a thought leader, the intrinsic motivation should stem from the joy of writing and speaking itself. Rather than focusing solely on establishing oneself as a thought leader, authenticity and a true desire to contribute valuable legal insights should guide these endeavours. This is especially if the objective is to be consistent.

    Considering your journey and accomplishments, what advice would you like to share with law graduates who are just entering the field? Are there specific skills, mindsets, or lessons that you believe are crucial for success in the dynamic and challenging world of legal disputes?

    Reflecting on my journey and looking at what lies ahead, thriving in this field requires a combination of specific skills, mindsets, and lessons::

    1. Strong work ethic: The ability to work hard and consistently put in the effort cannot be overstated.
    2. Kaizen Mindset: Embrace a Kaizen mindset- focusing on constant and relentless improvement of your craft. This mindset is key to adapting to the ever-evolving legal landscape.
    3. Openness to learning-  Be willing to learn from everyone, whether they are younger or more senior colleagues. Cultivate the humility of a perpetual student, as there is valuable knowledge to be gained from diverse sources.
    4. Acceptance of Mistakes: Acknowledge and accept mistakes. Ego should not stand in the way of learning and growth.
    5. Ambition: Foster a strong ambition to achieve your goals.

    One thing is certain- a lawyer in a family means the entire family is part of the legal profession. Managing personal and professional aspects, thus, requires constant calibration. There is no optimum work-life balance- it’s the balance that suits you the most.

    In the end, these are only my personal views, which are shaped by my life experiences and observations. Take them with a pinch of salt!

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  • “Recognizing that the initial move in every case may not necessarily involve approaching the court, I find it essential to adopt a holistic and commercially minded approach to achieve the desired result”- Adit Shah, Partner at  Arrow Law Partners

    “Recognizing that the initial move in every case may not necessarily involve approaching the court, I find it essential to adopt a holistic and commercially minded approach to achieve the desired result”- Adit Shah, Partner at  Arrow Law Partners

    This Interview has been published by Pragya Chandni and and The SuperLawyer Team

    Can you share with us the journey that led you to pursue a career in law, and what motivated you to specialize in dispute resolution?

    I developed a keen interest in law early in my academic journey, drawn to its complexities and its potential to address societal issues. Additionally, in my formative years, I was heavily inspired by my grandfather who was also a lawyer but never had an opportunity to practice due to certain family obligations. During my LLB course, I engaged in various legal internships, gaining exposure to different areas of law. It was during this time that I discovered a particular fascination with dispute resolution. My dedication to this field grew stronger as I observed its profound impact on individuals and businesses. The prospect of aiding parties in resolving conflicts became a compelling force guiding my career path. During my tenure at both Spectrum Legal and Trilegal, I was given ample opportunities to delve deeper into my interest in dispute resolution, establishing a robust foundation in the process. These experiences afforded me extensive exposure to a diverse range of matters and an overarching understanding of dispute resolution strategies.

    Your experience at Spectrum Legal involved handling a diverse range of legal issues. Could you highlight a specific case or project that you found particularly challenging or rewarding and share the key lessons you learned from it?

    Due to the confidentiality of several cases I handled, and their ongoing status, I am unable to disclose specific party names. However, I can reference several significant cases I worked on, some of which have been publicly reported on forums such as Bar and Bench. One of the initial cases that I extensively contributed to involved addressing alleged defamatory content posted by a journalistic entity against a highly esteemed startup. This particular case underscored the substantial impact that swift action and a well-thought-out strategy can have on a company’s business, emphasizing the importance of meticulous drafting. The primary challenge in this matter was ensuring the prompt filing of the plaint and getting quick interim relief, as time is crucial in all civil defamation cases.

    From your time at Arrow Law Partners, what aspects of being a Partner have you found most fulfilling, and how has your role evolved compared to your previous experiences as an Associate?

    This question holds particular interest for me, given that I established Arrow Law Partners just a few months ago, and the experience has been incredibly enlightening. As an associate, one can rely on various colleagues and partners for support and assistance. However, stepping into the role of a partner has meant taking on the sole responsibility of ensuring that I deliver the best possible advice and service to my clients. The most rewarding aspect of this transition has been engaging in discussions with clients, where my focus is on presenting all available options alongside my recommended suggestions for approaching a matter. Recognizing that the initial move in every case may not necessarily involve approaching the court, I find it essential to adopt a holistic and commercially minded approach to achieve the desired result. Consequently, the practice of dispute resolution strategy itself has become a vital component, emphasizing the importance of considering alternatives rather than advising every client to directly pursue court action or initiate arbitration. 

    In your role at Trilegal, you contributed to the dispute resolution team and participated in due diligence processes for potential mergers. How did this experience shape your perspective on the intersection of litigation and corporate transactions?

    My experience at Trilegal has proven to be invaluable in fortifying my expertise in dispute resolution and expanding my perspective on approaching various matters and disputes. Involvement in due diligence and merger applications played a crucial role in deepening my understanding of the commercial aspects inherent in each case. This exposure shed light on the considerations companies weigh before delving into discussions about potential mergers Initially, with my primary interest lying in dispute resolution, I may not have seen the immediate merit in working on such matters. However, through active engagement with these cases and collaboration with other teams, I gained insights into the practical intricacies associated with mergers. This experience illuminated how any dispute could significantly impact the potential success of a merger, providing me with a more comprehensive understanding of the interconnected nature of legal practice. 

    Given your extensive experience in the legal field, what advice would you offer to recent law graduates who are embarking on their careers, especially those interested in dispute resolution and arbitration?

    My primary advice is to immerse yourself in diverse experiences and tackle various types of legal matters by diving in to the deep end. Given the increasing number of law graduates each year, the upcoming generation of dispute resolution lawyers will focus on specialisation. The key to understanding your interests and identifying your niche lies in gaining exposure to a range of cases Starting by actively participating in different aspects of legal work, including running around to handle various tasks, is crucial. This hands-on experience is where you acquire the fundamentals and practicalities of dispute resolution. I often advise new lawyers and interns to attend court sessions and observe proceedings, as it offers valuable insights into argumentative styles, reading the judge, and presenting effective arguments. This exposure is indispensable for honing essential skills in the field.

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  • “Eat well and stay fit – don’t be 50 at 35. No matter how successful you become in life – always respect the Bench.” – Shiv Sapra, Partner at Kochhar & Co.

    “Eat well and stay fit – don’t be 50 at 35. No matter how successful you become in life – always respect the Bench.” – Shiv Sapra, Partner at Kochhar & Co.

    This interview has been published by Namrata Singh and The SuperLawyer Team

    Reflecting on your journey, could you share some insights into your college days at ILS Law College, Pune, and the initial struggles you faced in the early days of your career after graduating? How did those experiences shape your resilience and approach to the legal profession?

    Law School is where you formed your foundations, be it education or friends. ILS Law College was, and remains, one of the most prestigious institutions in Law. It was an incredible learning experience as you came together with aspiring lawyers from all over the country. It was evident from the beginning that the legal profession professed immense competition and that one needed to do more than what was ‘required’ in order to stay ahead of the curve. Whilst at Law School, our version of finding a job was finding an ‘internship’! There was immense competition, if for nothing else, then for bragging rights – which was an undeniable reality. These early experiences were a lesson for later years – that life wouldn’t be easy, or fair. 

    Your legal career spans over 17 years, with a wealth of experience in civil/criminal litigation and commercial arbitration. Can you share a memorable moment or case that significantly shaped your approach to legal practice?

    It was in my second year in the profession where I was faced with the occasion of having to argue a high stakes matter before the Delhi High Court in an arbitration case. As my senior was on his legs at that moment (as is very common), I sought the customary Passover. However, the Hon’ble Judge insisted (read: encouraged) that I present the arguments. Reluctantly, I proceeded with the arguments. My senior arrived mid-way but the Hon’ble Judge insisted I continue. After the hearing, my senior encouraged me to lead the matter, of course, with his support in whatever way needed. We went on to win the matter.

    The takeaway: Judges will always be there to inspire and encourage you, but the hard work will have to be yours alone. You must be able to cash in on opportunities through thorough preparation, of law as well as facts. Your Seniors will also be there to mentor and guide you, but you must win their trust – again, through your work. These are privileges, which must never be misused. 

    I was extremely fortunate to have found the support from my senior during my early years who was pivotal in my learnings, especially that there is nothing like a big or small matter. Every matter is equally important for a lawyer because it carries the trust of a client, which must be reciprocated with competence and responsibility. Also, you either know an answer or you don’t – never faff! Your duty to your client is always first and sacrosanct.

    As a Partner at Kochhar & Co., you handle disputes related to arbitration, insolvency, and commercial litigation. What aspect of your current role do you find most fulfilling and challenging?

    Keeping abreast with the ever evolving concepts of law is one of the most crucial aspects for any practice, be it Arbitration, Insolvency, or any other field. Clients look for solutions from both legal as well as commercial perspectives. Striking a balance between the two remains the most challenging and satisfying aspect. Your skillset must include the ability to provide out of the box solutions. 

    Beyond your legal expertise, you’ve been associated with various publications. What inspired you to write articles?

    As a lawyer, you are constantly exploring ways to hone your skills, especially reasoning and conveyancing. When you write an article, you are free to express your own views on a subject after understanding the jurisprudence and evolution of said subject. But it is not just about sharing your views, rather how to grasp the attention of the reader. This requires a fair amount of research and formulation of opinions based thereon. To articulate and convey your views independent of others is the biggest privilege a lawyer has. 

    Your bio mentions a deep passion for the legal profession, passed down through a family of lawyers. How has this familial connection influenced your journey, and what does the legal profession mean to you on a personal level? 

    Growing up, we were privy to numerous stories and anecdotes emanating from the legal profession. This definitely had an impact on the decision to pursue law, but said decision was never owing to expectation or pressure. We were always free to choose our career path and were always supported in that. From the beginning, we were motivated to make it on our own and not through whom you knew. Case in point: my father refused to consider my candidature for his organization unless I had garnered at least 3-4 years of experience!  

    I have always considered the legal profession as a noble profession. I learned very early that representing a client was an enormous responsibility which could only be shouldered through your understanding of the law and a thorough appreciation of the issues involved. On the other hand, you are also an officer of the Court, which comes with its own set of responsibilities. There must be a sense of pride when you don the gown, but never arrogance.   

    Having been associated with both DSK Legal and Luthra & Luthra Law Offices, what unique aspects of each firm have contributed to your professional growth, and how do these experiences influence your approach as a Partner at Kochhar & Co.? 

    Both organizations had very distinct and unique characteristics.  

    While at Luthra, I was fortunate to have been a part of a wonderful set of lawyers, and human beings alike in a very close knit environment. Our senior colleagues were always ready to help and mentor, which every newcomer looked to. A lot was learnt in the ways of mentorship and on how to hone your skills as a lawyer. In many ways, I learnt my core professional values whilst at Luthra. It taught me the importance of not only learning to deliver quality, but also of the need to guide and assist youngsters. 

    DSK Legal further encouraged you to go beyond the role of a Partner and to grow as an individual. It is with the combined experience garnered from both organizations that I look to assisting my present organization in its visions ahead.

    From your time at The Doon School to being a School Athletics Captain, how do you think your early experiences and leadership roles in school have shaped your professional journey?

    Doon has played a pivotal role in my journey. I was primarily a long distance runner which entailed two main requirements: keep breathing, and keep going – a trait most often needed in today’s profession in many ways! Doon inculcated a strict sense of discipline and leadership from a very early age. These characteristics have been essential to me through the years in the profession. 

    In addition to your legal expertise, you’ve authored articles and judged Moot Courts. How do you balance the roles of an author, mentor, and litigator, and how do these activities contribute to your overall professional satisfaction? 

    All these roles are interlinked. It is crucial to invest in mentoring and undertaking extracurriculars beyond work. Time has always been a constraint but one needs to find the time as these are investments you make in yourself as an individual. Moot Courts are an excellent way to interact with budding lawyers and to get a feeling on how they perceive the law and present themselves. The coming generation is extremely sharp and intelligent, and they certainly offer a fresh perspective, which is often much needed.

    Apart from your professional commitments, how do you unwind and relax? Are there any hobbies or activities that you particularly enjoy in your free time? 

    Travelling has been the best way for unwinding and finding a break from the regular vigour of life. I found my ultimate Xen in Scuba Diving many years back, which I pursue religiously.  

    AI is fast taking charge in developing times. How do you see AI impacting the legal industry?

    Technology has always been a powerful tool in a lawyers arsenal. Online research, though not a substitute for conventional modes, has certainly been a boon over the past many years with access to legal databases merely a click away. Now with the advent of AI, the landscape of the profession is fast changing. Numerous Corporates have already started using this for their professional needs. There is thus a dire need for lawyers to adopt and adapt, lest you miss the bus. 

    AI is well poised to reduce (and in cases, even remove) the reliance on different sources, be it drafting or research. Although human logic and ingenuity is difficult to be substituted, Generative AI is certainly a stiff competition in the field. What will be the endgame in the vista, time will tell. For now, AI is certainly the most powerful tool available to us and its potential must be capitalized. 

    Would you like to share any suggestions or advice for the upcoming generation of lawyers?

    • Read, read, and read! There is no shortcut to hardwork. Every lawyer is unique. 
    • Cherish your relationship with your Mentor, but maintain respect and independence. Read “Letters to a Young lawyer” by Alan M.Dershowitz for more insights.
    • Invest time in networking early – this will be your biggest asset in the later years.
    • Always look out for yourself – you alone will be responsible on setting the trajectory of your career. Don’t let anyone dictate your choices. Have confidence in yourself.
    • Eat well and stay fit – don’t be 50 at 35.
    • Lastly: no matter how successful you become in life – always respect the Bench.

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  • “Success of a case or project isn’t the result of individual brilliance but rather the outcome of a meticulously orchestrated collaboration”- Mitsu Parikh, Senior Partner at World of Legal Research

    “Success of a case or project isn’t the result of individual brilliance but rather the outcome of a meticulously orchestrated collaboration”- Mitsu Parikh, Senior Partner at World of Legal Research

    This Interview has been published by Pragya Chandni and and The SuperLawyer Team

    Can you share a bit about your educational journey and how you pursue law as a career? 

    I originate from a quaint town in Gujarat where, a decade ago, career choices such as law, journalism, creative writing, and hotel management were not common for females. When I expressed my aspiration to pursue a career in law to my parents, their reaction was beyond surprise. They recommended that I gain firsthand experience by shadowing a seasoned lawyer before making a definitive decision. Consequently, I immersed myself in the legal field, accompanying and observing an accomplished lawyer in various cases spanning banking, constitutional, employment, and family laws. The diverse and intricate nature of the legal profession left a profound impression on me, ultimately solidifying my determination to pursue law as a career. This experience broadened my understanding of the legal landscape and instilled in me a deep appreciation for the multifaceted challenges and responsibilities inherent in the field.

    You’ve pursued advanced degrees in International Law and Legal research. What drew you to specialize in these areas? 

    During my undergraduate studies, I actively participated in moot court competitions, assuming roles as a speaker and researcher. While I thoroughly enjoyed the entire moot court experience, I found a particular passion for research. Delving into legal research became more than necessary; it became a profound interest. This inclination led me to explore opportunities to publish papers and interact with esteemed academicians at conferences and symposiums. Recognizing the significance of contributing substantively to the legal discourse through research and publishing papers, I pursued a master’s degree. Someone once told me that just raising questions doesn’t make you people worthwhile; finding solutions does. 

    You’ve had diverse roles, from Legal Assistant in law firms to your current position as a Senior Researcher and Coordinator. How did these experiences contribute to your growth and specialization in international law? 

    My stint in the corporate sector and various law firms served as a journey of self-discovery, compelling me to confront the realization that these roles may not be my lifelong passion. However, I wholeheartedly acknowledge that each experience played a crucial role in shaping my personal and professional growth. During my internship, a pivotal lesson resonated deeply – the significance of every task, regardless of its scale. It became evident that the success of a case or project isn’t the result of individual brilliance but rather the outcome of a meticulously orchestrated collaboration. Whether assuming the role of a clerk, lawyer, or researcher, every individual in the chain contributes uniquely, and the collective effort propels success. This realization has ingrained in me a commitment to execute my responsibilities to the best of my abilities, regardless of my role in the process. 

    Could you tell us more about your role as a Senior Researcher and Coordinator at the international consultancy World of Legal Research? What kind of research-based consultancy do you provide to the government, law schools, and academicians? 

    We provide a variety of services. Some of the services involve a project where we have to study impact assessment, create analytical research reports, and assist with reviewing the research papers. Additionally, we are more inclined towards assisting our legal fraternity with our efficient legal research team, specializing in diverse fields of law.

    As a Visiting Faculty to many universities in India and abroad, you teach Public International Law and Legal Research Methodology. What inspired you to take up a teaching role alongside your research work? 

    When I was a student, the thought often crossed my mind – what if certain topics were approached differently? Would they become more intriguing? It wasn’t until I visited conferences in the southern part of India that I stumbled upon a fascinating realization. Among the accomplished individuals, be it a thriving businessman, a seasoned lawyer, or a distinguished doctor, there was a common thread – academic involvement. It brought to my mind Chanakya’s words about teachers never being ordinary; they hold the power of construction and destruction. This insight fueled my aspiration to contribute meaningfully to the academic realm. As I transitioned into the role of a researcher, my desire crystallized into a passion for teaching law students the art and science of research. It’s not just about acquiring knowledge but understanding the intricacies and methodologies that make research a captivating and essential facet of the legal profession. 

    Your experience includes working in law firms in Australia and India. How did these experiences shape your understanding of legal practice on an international scale? 

    Lawfirms became my school of perfection, teaching me the invaluable skills of meticulousness and the art of thriving under deadlines. But beyond the technicalities, it was a vibrant classroom where I learned to navigate the intricate tapestry of human diversity. Working with people from different cultures was a daily lesson in understanding, patience, and respect. There were instances where a case forced me to reconcile my personal beliefs with my client’s position. The legal profession throws a unique challenge at you – dealing with ethical dilemmas that demand a delicate balance. The realization that every client, boss, or judge is a distinct chapter in your professional story. Each encounter is an opportunity to embrace diversity, not just in your home country but in foreign lands. It taught me the importance of respecting diverse cultures and opinions, a lesson that goes beyond the legal arena and shapes how I approach life.

    You’ve presented papers on various topics, from health inequalities during COVID-19 to discrimination in legal education. Can you highlight a paper that you found particularly impactful or that received significant attention? 

    In 2023, I had the privilege of presenting a paper at the Center for Criminal Law, University of Oxford (UK), addressing the alarming issue of ancestral rapes in the state of Haryana during the COVID-19 pandemic. This paper garnered recognition and was honored with an award for being the most passionate presentation. Subsequently, I received emails from faculty members and fellow paper presenters at the conference, affirming that this problem extends beyond India to encompass every country and culture. The correspondence highlighted a shared sentiment that societies tend to suppress or disregard such issues, choosing to deny their existence. The suggestions and solutions proposed in my paper resonated with the international audience, earning appreciation from diverse perspectives. It was a powerful acknowledgment of the universality of the problem and the importance of proactive and compassionate approaches to address it on a global scale.

    Your involvement in founding an NGO called ‘Madad’ during the COVID-19 pandemic is commendable. Could you share more about the initiatives and impact of this organization?

    I wouldn’t like to talk much about my NGO as our ancestors say that if you help someone with your right hand, your left hand shouldn’t even know about it. I would just say that at whatever stage you are in life, try to help others, not for the betterment of society, but for yourself, so that you can face yourself in the mirror at the end of the day. 

    You’ve received several awards and honors for your contributions, including the Youngest Leader Award from Rotary International. Which of these achievements holds a special place in your heart, and why? 

    In the third year of my undergrad studies, I received an award for the best position paper at Harvard University. That paper made me realize that regardless of being from a small town or being from the vernacular medium of studies, you can if you really want to achieve something in life.

    You’ve held various editorial roles and served as chairman in some committees while studying at the University of Sydney. How have these positions enriched your professional journey? 

    These positions equipped me with essential skills such as time management and strategic planning. Additionally, they provided valuable lessons on effective teamwork. Each extracurricular engagement in Law School imparts qualities beyond the teachings of books or academic activities.

    Finally, based on your journey so far, what advice would you give law graduates just starting their careers in the legal field? 

    Well, I’m not experienced enough to give any advice. I’d reframe it as learning that I can share from the mistakes I made in my journey. 

    1. Take your internships seriously. You will gain something from every task you do during your internship, even if it is just carrying your senior’s briefcase and/or documents. For example, you’ll be able to be a part of his conversations with clients and people around in court, how one carries his business in the legal field, etc.; this will teach you much more about the practicalities that even a subject in law school wouldn’t. 

    2. Whether you want to join corporate or litigation, publish papers and take part in conferences. Publish or perish is a thumb rule. If someone googles you on the internet, and you have something published, you will get brownie points. 

    3. There is no shortcut to success. It might sound like the cheesiest line. However, life is not 2 minutes noodles. Instant gratification. Instant Fame. All these are not to be focused upon. Do smart work, but don’t get scared away from hard work. Thus, creating a strong base first is very important, because if you sow well, you’ll reap the fruits throughout your life. Choice is always yours.

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  • “Every friend you make lifts you just one notch higher. And being likable makes you lighter to lift.” – From village roots to Supreme Court heights, Naveen Kumar, Advocate-on-Record at Supreme court of India.

    “Every friend you make lifts you just one notch higher. And being likable makes you lighter to lift.” – From village roots to Supreme Court heights, Naveen Kumar, Advocate-on-Record at Supreme court of India.

    This interview has been published by Namrata Singh and The SuperLawyer Team

    Mr. Naveen, your journey from the University of Delhi to becoming an Advocate-On-Record with over two decades of experience is impressive. Can you take us through the pivotal moments or decisions that shaped your path and brought you to where you are today?

    While the journey from Delhi University onwards may be as good as it could be, the expedition from a village school to CLC (Campus Law Centre of Delhi University) is nothing short of a miracle. As it is said, if you believe in miracles they do happen. Today while I can boast myself as a modern english educated person having scientific temperament, I owe a lot to the scriptures, especially “The Ram Charitramanas” (by Goswami Tulsidas) without which I could not have grown even as an educated person.

    As in the first page of the epic Tusidas ji has worshiped goddess of faith and belief by saying “भवानीशङ्करौ वन्दे श्रद्धाविश्वासरूपिणौ” (alute lord Shiva and mother goddess Parvati who are personification of faith and belief). In hindsight, I can trace my existence to the very faith and belief (in God and oneself) which shaped my early life. Thus, I have no hesitation in confessing that I could not have received even an elementary education but for my interest in spiritualism and mythological stories such as Ramayana, Mahabharata, Puranas etc which used to be daily ritual in my family, while growing up in a village of district Siwan (Bihar).

    Of course, the spiritual light was sparked by the parents, especially my father, a deeply religious person, who used to narrate bed time stories of Ramayana, Mahabharata and Puranas etc.

    In this backdrop even before starting formal schooling, I was able to recite Chaupai and Dohas. My father had a fixed routine throughout his life, he used to do puja (worship) every morning which included Path (recital) Ram Charitmans. The child’s natural curiosity led them to look through the pages of the epic, perhaps starting with the photos, and thereafter reading the stories. Soon I grew up as a favorite child to be called for reciting Dohas and chaupais in front of guests and visitors by my father.

    I don’t remember anything more about my studies or schooling up to class 8th. A significant milestone (again in hindsight) was surpassed when I was shifted from the village primary school to high school in class 9th in the year 1984-85. Because of my interest in Hindi poetries etc., and the ability to orate them loudly in front of anyone, a few of my teachers somehow started admiring and encouraging me.

    In the year 1985, during the 9th class, I won the first prize in antakshari on Tulsi Jayanti. Though it may not have seemed much worth at the time, today, it appears to be one of the significant events of my life. This achievement drew the attention of more and more teachers in school towards me, leading to special attention in my studies.  

    Due to the encouragement of the teachers, I began to take my studies more seriously, ultimately becoming the highest scorer in the 10th board exams in the whole village. Even today, I can vividly recollect my first day as I started learning my alphabets in the sunshine on the auspicious day of Basant Panchami in 1985 when one my teachers, Shri Hiral Lal Singh, started teaching me ‘angrezi’ (English).  

    Because of the encouragement (rather blessings) of my teachers I grew up to become the first person in the joint family (of about 30 people), consisting of all of my cousins, to study beyond Class 12th.

    The first seed of big dreams were planted again by sheer coincidence (almost like a miracle). In 1987, my identity as a sincere student received a boost due to my good result in 10th Board. Simultaneously, an unrelated event occurred where a native of Siwan district topped the UPSC Civil Services Exam in the same year. Instantly, it became a matter of huge celebration and talk of every nook and corner of the district including my village. A number of inspiring tales of hard work and success left a lasting charm of civil services which stuck with me and played a role in drawing me to Delhi.

    As I landed up in Delhi with big dreams and empty pockets the hard realities in the form of huge financial constraints and cultural shock put insurmountable challenges; in that backdrop few well-wishers suggested getting admission in a Law course in DU which would give access to library and other facilities. Accordingly, preparation for DU entrance started, and luckily, I secured a few tuition assignments to sustain survival in the life of the metro. After having secured good rank in the entrance test, doors of CLC opened and so the new horizon of hope, aspiration and struggle. 

    During CLC days I was again dear to my teacher who inspired me to engage in the extracurricular activities as visits to Tihar Jail, Criminal Courts, Slums-areas, I used to perform in Nukkad-Natak etc,. as a part of our Legal awareness activities which opened the doors of real-life learnings and helped me to develop a keen interest in interplay of law justice (or injustice) at the crude level.

    Thus, my journey is an intricate interconnection of how spirituality, education, and the quest for knowledge all played a role. Starting from the small village temple to studying law, each part of my journey has added to my life story, making me who I am today.

    Your career spans over 24 years in litigation, with a focus on diverse areas like Energy/Natural/Mining Laws, Intellectual Property, and more. Can you share a case that significantly shaped your approach to law and advocacy?

    After having completed my LL.B. degree in 1998, I got my bar registration and plunged into practice; the obvious choice for me was to start from Tis Hazari court as some of my friends as well as seniors were practicing there. I drifted for about 2 years in various chambers of Tis Hazari court. In 3rd year through a senior’s reference, I joined the chambers of Mr. Gopal Jain, (now a senior advocate). This opportunity proved to be a very huge milestone as I got access up to the highest echelons of litigation practice. Because of my initial training in district courts and hardworking nature my senior started giving independent briefs for subordinate courts and showed full faith in me.  I got various chances to handle the cases independently which ultimately turned out to be a good grooming process. While working with Mr. Jain, I had numerous opportunities to brief various senior advocates, including the most renowned ones and these opportunities enhanced confidence and enriched my understanding of diverse legal areas.

    Like any other young aspirant, I too was fascinated by the grandeur of the Apex Court. I was a regular visitor to the premises of the highest court of the land. However, I didn’t get any case in the Supreme Court despite my sincere wish for that. As it is said, that every thought is a prayer, my purposeless visits manifested into a reality when I got my first Supreme Court case in the year 2005 with reference to one of my distant relatives. Later on, another milestone in my career as an advocate of the Supreme Court was achieved when I got one case involving eleven policemen accused of murder in an encounter in Jharkhand, which later on became a landmark judgment on Section 482 of the Cr.P.C. 

    During the grooming days striving to become a practitioner in the Hon’ble Supreme Court and High Court(s) of India, my mentors/seniors instilled the ethos of “working like a horse and living like a hermit”. A junior is expected to be very thorough with the list of dates, comparative analysis of rival pleadings, argument points, compilation of case laws and also possible arguments of the other side (devil’s advocate) etc. As I always aspired to be a litigation lawyer in higher forums, I was constantly asking my seniors to provide me more and more work or opportunity to read files, also, I used to ask for those matters, which were not assigned to me. In that process and during my association with Mr. Jain I gained invaluable experience and professional maturity.

    A significant turn happened in 2011 when I handled a case related to illegal mining before the Supreme Court of India, arguing against a renowned Senior Advocate and securing a favorable outcome for the mining lease holder. The controversial and politically sensitive nature of the case gained widespread attention in the State of Odisha consequently I started getting a lot of mining cases which eventually created my reputation as a mining lawyer and till date I have handled almost 500 mining cases before Mines Tribunal, NGT, different High Courts and Supreme Court. In fact, in 2018, in one of the most controversial mining cases, a bench of the Apex court asked a super senior to give way to me to address the court, and after five days of full day arguments a reported judgment was delivered. This provided firmness in Supreme Court litigation practice, marked by strong desire, hard-work, consistency and consequent abilities to overcome the hindrances/ barriers created by language, lack of family background, or financial or other support from parents.

    Your extensive list of publications showcases a keen interest in legal commentary. How do you decide which topics to delve into, and what impact do you hope your writings have on the legal community or society at large?

    In determining the topics for my legal commentaries, I am guided by a dual purpose – a passion for the subject matter and a commitment to addressing issues that hold relevance for the legal community and society at large. Each publication represents a careful selection based on contemporary legal challenges and emerging issues.

    For instance, my book titled “Sand Mining Laws in India” delves into a crucial yet often overlooked aspect of environmental law. Through this work, I aim to shed light on the intricacies of sand mining regulations, contributing to a better understanding of the legal framework surrounding this environmental concern.

    The article “Judicial Restraint in Tender matters – A perspective,” published in SCC Online, reflects my interest in exploring the nuanced application of judicial restraint in the context of tender matters. By sharing this perspective, I hope to initiate thoughtful discussions within the legal community and contribute to the development of jurisprudence in this area.

    Similarly, my writings on topics like “Principles of Bail in Financial Crimes,” “Goal of Net Zero,” “Ban on Single-use-Plastic,” “Gender Pay Gap,” and “Compensatory Afforestation” aim to bridge the gap between legal theory and practical implications. These pieces in Bar and Bench and Live Law are designed to prompt reflection, foster informed dialogue, and potentially influence legal discourse and policy-making.

    Ultimately, my goal is not only to contribute to the legal scholarship but also to bring about positive changes and make contribution in the legal discourse. I aspire for my writings to serve as catalysts for discussions, policy reforms, and a deeper understanding of the legal complexities surrounding these critical topics.

    You’ve authored “Sand Mining Laws in India.” What inspired you to write on this specific subject, and what challenges did you face in distilling such complex legal issues for a broader audience?

    So far as the sand mining is concerned, from my experience in appearing before NGT and Supreme court, I realized that there is a serious discord between the authorities who are granting quarry leases for sand and those who are regulating and implementing the environmental regulations concerning the sand mining. Through interactions with numerous lease holders, it became evident that they were uninformed about the intricate statutory rules, regulations, circulars and office memorandums etc., governing their business of sand mining. Due to the lack of awareness, many miners incur the ire of NGT, resulting in the imposition of significant penalties. Many times, penalties are computed by the committees constituted by the NGT, which are based on an eye estimation, surmises, conjectures and which is far beyond the paying capacity of the respective quarry holders. This mainly inspired me to write a book on this specific topic with a purpose to spread awareness amongst the stakeholders about the required compliance as sand the most extracted materials from the earth’s crust and a lot of environmental, social, sustainability concerns do arise from it. Thus, it underlined the necessity of basic awareness within the mining community and other stakeholders. Another aim is to provide a view point to the policy makers, researchers and to facilitate informed decision-making in this crucial sector.

    Your practice extends to various tribunals like NGT, NCDRC, NCLT, NCLAT, and more. How do these forums differ from appearing in courts like the Supreme Court or High Courts, and how do you adapt your advocacy style accordingly?

    Practicing in different forums like NGT, NCDRC, NCLT and NCLAT is little different from that in higher courts like the Supreme Court or High Courts. These tribunals specialize in handling specific cases, such as those related to environment, corporate and financial matters. The rules and procedures in these tribunals are designed specifically for the types of cases they adjudicate, showcasing a nuanced and specialized approach in contrast to the broader scope of the Supreme Court or High Courts.

    On the other hand, the Supreme Court and High Courts have a broader jurisdiction, dealing with a wide range of legal issues beyond specific specialties. Appearing in these courts involves navigating more general legal procedures and practices.

    The main difference is that tribunals are specialized, allowing for a more focused and streamlined approach to cases within their specific areas. This sets them apart from the broader and more diverse settings of the higher courts, with their own dynamics and nuances.

    Usually when we prepare for cases, we do extensive research of all the relevant case laws and topics which are germane to that particular matter. To adapt my advocacy style accordingly, I focus on the specific rules and procedures of each forum. The key is to be flexible and adjust my approach based on the unique requirements of each forum.

    You’ve presided over workshops on legal awareness. Why is legal education and awareness crucial in today’s society, and what challenges do you see in bridging the gap between legal intricacies and public understanding?

    Legal awareness programs hold immense significance for several reasons, and if we impart basic legal awareness to the masses, it will be the most effective tool for empowering them. Equipping people with fundamental information about their legal rights and responsibilities is a necessity, as it enables them to deal with injustice which they face on a daily basis by the police and other administrative machinery. In fact, when we used to do street plays, we ensured that through that play we educate the public about their rights and duties and create legal awareness. These events provided a unique opportunity to establish direct connections with the masses, offering valuable insights into the practical application of laws.

    The challenge in bridging the gap between legal intricacies and public understanding lies in making the law simple and accessible to everyone. Legal terms and processes can be complex, and people might find them difficult to grasp. As an advocate, my role is to break down these complexities, use simple language, and provide real-life examples that the public can relate to. Therefore, conducting legal awareness programs, using plain language in legal communications, and engaging with communities directly are some ways to overcome this challenge. Making the law less intimidating and more understandable for everyone is crucial for ensuring justice reaches every corner of society.

    As someone with experience in arbitration, what advice would you give to businesses entering into arbitration agreements to safeguard their interests?

    Having observed the evolution of Arbitration as the most effective mechanism for alternative dispute resolution in India, I have gathered insights into the crucial aspects that need consideration by all stakeholders. The challenges which arise from court interference, delays in arbitral award execution, and concerns about the quality of arbitrator asks for careful attention. To my clients, I have always been advising that they should be objective and fair while negotiating and drafting clauses in arbitration agreements. Where the arbitration clause and the terms of the arbitration agreement are one-sided, then the scope of interference from the courts would be much wider at different stages. I have always advised my clients that the arbitration clauses should provide for selection of an impartial and experienced person as an arbitrator and both the parties must have fair chances and stake in the appointment of the arbitral tribunal and conduct of the arbitration proceedings and the clauses of the agreement should be drafted accordingly.

    Away from the legal arena, what are your hobbies or interests that provide a respite from the complexities of your profession? Any particular activity that helps you recharge?

    I engage in hobbies that offer an escape from the intricacies of my profession. Reading historical and spiritual books, immersing myself in the calming melodies of classical music, and enjoying moments of solitude are my chosen activities. Additionally, I find fulfillment in social initiatives, interacting with people on my own accord. These pursuits not only provide a break but also contribute to my overall well-being. They bring to life the childhood dictum, “विद्यां ददाति विनयं, विनयाद् याति पात्रताम्,” reinforcing the importance of both knowledge and humbleness. Engaging in these diverse activities provides me with energizing distractions from my high demanding profession and allows me to return to my legal responsibilities with a refreshed perspective and renewed energy.

    Simultaneously, participating in social initiatives deepens my connection with the community, instilling a sense of responsibility and empathy. This active engagement not only broadens my understanding of societal issues but also provides an avenue to contribute positively. The synergy between these diverse activities creates a harmonious rhythm in my life, enabling me to navigate the complexities of my demanding profession with resilience, a balanced perspective and a genuine appreciation for the multifaceted tapestry of my life.  

    With your extensive experience, what advice would you give to young lawyers aspiring to build a successful career in litigation and advocacy?

    My rocky journey in this profession may have some advice for younger stars such as-

    Ø Consistent Hard Work- While I was traveling in the DTC bus a co- passenger while interacting made a statement that “it is very easy to get a law degree but it is extremely difficult to become a good lawyer”. This statement of a stranger echoed in my mind throughout my struggle period and it holds good even today which is evident from the fact that we have a huge pool of young law graduates but there is a dearth of good lawyers in each court of India. What shaped my life in initial days is that I had inculcated a few small but good habits such as I used to read bare acts, legal magazines and cases even though I do not have any brief relating to the respective subject. These seemingly small habits paid off, as clients recognized me as a well-read individual, enhancing my “likeability factor”. My advice to budding lawyers is to keep learning, even in the absence of immediate briefs, as continuous learning prepares one for future opportunities.

    Ø Work is worship- One small event which I could recollect is that one of my clients advised me saying that “one’s commitment to work should supersede all other priorities”. The advice came roughly because I had got delayed in reaching the court and because of my being late the matter was passed over. Being late for a court appearance taught me a direct lesson. The client’s advice was straightforward – giving preference to any family event or anything else instead of work would not bring either the success or happiness or even the admiration of family members. This lesson stuck with me every for the whole of my formative age in the professions. I can say with conviction that a legal profession is a very high demanding profession which requires the highest degree of focus and dedication and that too without much reward in initial days of practice.

    Ø Patience and Big Goals- Overcoming initial challenges requires patience and a larger vision. Although the situation has improved significantly due to the emergence of numerous law firms, opportunities in the corporate sector, and academia, young law graduates now have a variety of choices. Despite these growing opportunities, struggles persist. In the early days, I had few techniques to keep myself inspired. While practicing in district courts, I regularly visited the Supreme Court and High Court to observe the legends of the legal profession and used to idolize them. Seeking inspiration from legendary lawyers in the Supreme Court and Delhi High Court kept my ambitions high.

    Ø Learn broadly and with focus- Another ritual of observing the court proceedings of all the courts helped me in staying motivated. Thoroughly reading legal documents, bare acts, law magazines etc. proved very beneficial. Later on, one of my seniors advised that you must flip through (using tai-lopez method of speed reading) the bare acts and rules whenever you get a case relating to that subject.

    I would like to quote an excerpt from David J. Schwartz- “The Magic of Thinking Big” which is a must for this profession “likeability factor”-

    Mark this point well. A person is not pulled up to a higher-level job. Rather, he is lifted up. In this day and age nobody has time or patience to pull another up the job ladder, degree by painful degree. The individual is chosen whose record makes him stand higher than the rest. We are lifted to higher levels by those who know us as likable, personable individuals. Every friend you make lifts you just one notch higher. And being likable makes you lighter to lift.

    To sum up, my advice to the young lawyers is simple – Dear young lawyers, here’s a piece of advice: alongside your legal studies, make sure to gain practical experience. Real-world situations teach you valuable lessons that books alone can’t provide. So, dive into the practical side of law to become a more skilled and effective legal professional. embrace hard work, treat work as worship, practice patience, think big, and focus on continuous learning as well as ensure to have a likable personality. These principles, from personal experiences, pave the way for a successful legal career. 

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  • “Like a game of chess, dispute lawyers must anticipate their opponent’s every move and try to remain a few steps ahead.” – Angad Varma, Partner at Dua Associates.

    “Like a game of chess, dispute lawyers must anticipate their opponent’s every move and try to remain a few steps ahead.” – Angad Varma, Partner at Dua Associates.

    This interview has been published by Namrata Singh and The SuperLawyer Team

    Your journey from Symbiosis Law School to becoming a Partner at Dua Associates is quite impressive. Can you share a memorable experience or lesson from your early legal career that has shaped your approach as a dispute resolution lawyer today?

    A career in law interested me, however, I had little idea as to the enormity of what it would entail. At the time I did not have any family or friends practicing law, so I did not have much guidance either. I was always told by my educators that I had an aptitude for a career in Law. I joined Symbiosis Law School at the age of 17 and have never looked back since. I was an active mooter and debater in law school and having interned with a few reputable legal firms and lawyers, I realized I truly enjoyed the experience of being in Court which led me to choose Dispute Resolution as a career.

    It is no secret that passion, hard work and perseverance are the keys to success in any sphere and dimension of life, however, the extent and proportion are not something I had ever imagined. My biggest lesson so far has been that there is a learning in every experience so long as you are open to doing everything that comes your way. I never shied away from doing any task that was assigned to me no matter how little I knew of it or what I thought of it, and my sole purpose was to ensure the job was done. This determination and characteristic have seen me through and brought me where I am today. There have been days that I have singlehandedly attended to tasks otherwise assigned to associates, para legal, court clerks and even stenographers, all while being a Partner, and such days, though challenging, leave me most fulfilled. 

    With such a diverse range of legal areas you handle, from insolvency to property law, is there a specific area of law that you find particularly challenging yet rewarding to navigate?

    Times have changed since I started practicing in 2007. In this era of specialization, I have been extremely fortunate to experience diverse legal areas, all of which I have covered in some depth which include wide-ranging commercial disputes, property law, labour and employment law, company law, transactional work and now insolvency law. In Law the devil is in the details, so every subject requires a fundamental understanding of the nuances involved and then applying such understanding to practical situations.

    The law is ever-evolving, requiring all lawyers to remain updated with the latest precedents. The last decade has also seen the emergence of new statutes. As for me, I had no background in insolvency laws, the Code was enacted in 2016 long after I had graduated from law school, therefore, it was all about self-educating. Although, challenging this practice area has been extremely rewarding for me.

    You’ve been instrumental in developing and scaling the Insolvency and Bankruptcy practice at Dua Associates. What drew you to specialize in this field, and how do you see the landscape evolving in the coming years?

    The Insolvency and Bankruptcy practice is one of the fastest-growing practice areas across law firms. This has more to do with the economy as a whole and the object of the statute. While the statute and the accompanying infrastructure have some distance to travel to realize its true potential, however, there have been several positives such as the revival of mismanaged and indebted corporate persons, securing the interests of creditors, check of corporate frauds, timely resolution of insolvency process amongst others.

    There was no intended or conscious effort towards specializing in this area. I along with a very competent team was entrusted with a good amount of work in this area, through which we honed our knowledge and became more and more familiar with the intricacies involved. We have been fortunate to do a lot of work in this space over the last 5 to 6 years, where we have represented all categories of stakeholders in several marquee matters. Dua Associates as a firm has been very supportive enabling me with all the tools to develop and scale up the Insolvency and Bankruptcy practice.

    You spent several years as Vice President at HSBC before joining Dua Associates. How was your experience transitioning from a role in a large multinational corporation to your current position as a Partner at a law firm? Are there aspects of your time at HSBC that significantly influenced your approach or perspective in your current role?

    Transition is never easy, you will have to walk out of your comfort zone and challenge yourself. I love a challenge; it makes me more determined.

    As I look back now, my role at HSBC was diametrically different from what I do today, with its own set of rigours and challenges. Working in-house is attached the misconception that life is easier in comparison to a law firm. Understanding business and your stakeholders/clients is not only key for an in-house profile but is also an absolute must for every lawyer. This is a skill set neither taught in law school nor in any law firm.

    Today working as a Partner with a law firm, my outlook on any problem and its consequent solution is viewed from the prism of my client’s business. Understanding the client’s business, personnel, culture and risk appetite is crucial for the legal advise I offer them, which perhaps is my biggest carry-forward from my HSBC days.  

    Apart from your legal expertise, you’re known for finding innovative solutions to complex issues. Can you share an example where thinking outside the box led to a positive outcome for your client?

    Every client is concerned with the end outcome; the process is for the lawyers to take care of suitably. For dispute resolution lawyers, the significance of strategizing is understated and this in my view separates the good from the best. Like a game of chess, dispute lawyers must anticipate their opponent’s every move and try to remain a few steps ahead.

    As a team, we have achieved many favourable outcomes before various forums, where our out-of-the-box approach led to protracted litigations being successfully shortened and sizable settlements attained for our clients.

    You’ve authored articles on the evolving jurisprudence of insolvency laws. Are there any upcoming changes or trends in the legal landscape that you find particularly noteworthy or anticipate having a significant impact?

    The issue of project-wise corporate insolvency resolution process for large real estate sector companies is currently under consideration before the Hon’ble Supreme Court and is likely to have a significant impact in my view. Under the existing legal framework, to factor in the interest of a variety of stakeholders and facts peculiar to each case may weigh heavily before a final decision is pronounced.

    We’ve heard about your interest in arbitration and mediation. How do you see alternative dispute resolution methods evolving in India, and what role do they play in your practice?

    Alternate dispute resolution has always been of keen interest to me. Given our population, our infrastructure and particularly our Courts are overburdened. The underlying purpose of alternate dispute resolution was to reduce the burden on the Courts, through a formalized and time efficient process of resolving disputes outside of the Court.

    In my view, the acceptance of such a process and outcome by the parties involved is key. However, the complexities of the process, timelines, high costs, the acceptability of the final outcome and subsequent rounds of litigation has diminished the value of alternate dispute resolution.     

    Beyond the courtroom, what’s a passion or hobby that helps you unwind from the intricacies of legal matters?

    Given the constraints of time and our hectic life, it is very important for lawyers to pursue activities outside of the workspace. I personally enjoy travelling and sports.

    Travelling to see new places, experience different cultures and meeting new people is something I particularly look forward to in my free time.

    For aspiring lawyers entering the field of dispute resolution, what advice would you offer based on your own journey?

    I believe that being a dispute resolution lawyer is a constant process of evolving, where you are dealing with new challenges, unforeseen circumstances and a wide array of people. It is essential to remain in the present with an eye on the future and keep moving forward one step at a time. Also, every day is a fresh start so never sit on your laurels or let your failures bring you down, they are both equally important parts of your professional journey.

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  • “I have experienced the highest of highs and lowest of lows, but I keep showing up and never despair. I would say litigation is very unpredictable as you never know what will happen in court”- Usha Lakshmipathaiah, Associate Partner at Krishnamurthy & Co. (K Law)

    “I have experienced the highest of highs and lowest of lows, but I keep showing up and never despair. I would say litigation is very unpredictable as you never know what will happen in court”- Usha Lakshmipathaiah, Associate Partner at Krishnamurthy & Co. (K Law)

    This Interview has been published by Pragya Chandni and and The SuperLawyer Team

    Ma’am, could you please share your journey and how you ended up pursuing a career in law? What motivated you to choose this profession?

    From a young age I was very bold and would always speak my mind. I also had a very strong desire to help people. I felt like I gravitated towards Law as my elder brother also chose Law as his career path. At that age you are extremely influenced by your siblings. When I started reading different law subjects, I became more and more curious and continue to be curious about everything law has to offer. 

    I remember feeling so overwhelmed on my first day in court. But I kept accompanying my colleagues / seniors and I slowly became familiar with all the court procedures etc. 

    My journey has been full of surprises. I have experienced the highest of highs and lowest of lows, but I keep showing up and never despair. I would say litigation is very unpredictable as you never know what will happen in court. 

    With your extensive experience in handling commercial and civil disputes, insolvency cases, and matters under the Industrial Disputes Act, can you highlight a particularly challenging case that stands out in your career and how you navigated through it?

    I represented a company in a case wherein there was an injunctive order against termination of an employee. It was challenging as the company was forced to continue his employment. However, we took the aid of section 14 and section 16 of the specific relief act and were able to demonstrate that contracts solely dependent on personal qualifications cannot be enforced. 

    Your work involves representing clients in intellectual property rights cases. Could you discuss a memorable case where your skills in IP law played a crucial role in achieving a favourable outcome?

    In one of the Intellectual property rights cases there was an ex-parte order operating against our client restraining them from infringing the plaintiff’s trademark.  We relied on section 30 of the trademarks act and were able to demonstrate that there was no infringement of trademark as our client was merely showcasing products and was in no way “using the plaintiff’s trademark”. This case was challenging as it is difficult to get an interim order vacated. 

    From your time at Poovayya & Co., you were involved in representing organizations in electronic and print media. Can you share an interesting experience or case related to media law that you found particularly intriguing or challenging?

    An interesting experience was regarding injunctive reliefs against publications (electronic or media) from telecasting defamatory articles / news. In such cases, the plaintiffs tend to include all media channels irrespective of whether they had published defamatory articles. We were representing media houses who were unnecessarily dragged to court who had nothing to do with the alleged defamatory articles. It was an uphill task to demonstrate that the media houses were only reporting facts / actual events that took place. 

    As someone who has also worked with a Judge of the Supreme Court, could you shed light on how that experience influenced your perspective and approach to practicing law?

    This experience was immensely valuable as it gave me first-hand experience as to what the Judge expects from a lawyer irrespective of who he is representing. It made me realise that the arguments must be presented in a manner which can easily be grasped in a short period of time. It also taught me the importance of keeping the pleadings precise and using simple language as opposed to complex sentences. 

    You’ve been involved in consumer matters and divorce cases. Can you discuss a case that had a significant impact on your understanding of these areas of law, and perhaps a lesson you learned from it?

    We had filed a consumer case for an individual wherein the complaint was allowed in part and half of the compensation amount claimed was granted. Although we had good grounds for appeal, it made commercial sense for the client to accept the part compensation considering the costs and time it would take for the Appeal to be decided, finally. 

    This case provided me with a different perspective of the importance of balancing between the desire to win a case and a feasible remedy for the client. 

    Your role as an Associate Partner at Klaw involves providing legal advice to various e-commerce platforms. How do you approach the unique challenges and legal issues that arise in the rapidly evolving landscape of e-commerce?

    The law pertaining to e-commerce is rapidly evolving and new guidelines are released from time to time. I constantly keep myself updated on the law regarding intermediaries and its interpretation by different courts which equips me with providing the best solution to the client.

    Given your diverse experience, what advice would you offer to law graduates who are just starting their careers in the field? What key lessons or insights have you gained that you believe would be valuable for them?

    To anyone who is just starting their career, I would advise that gaining practical experience at an early stage would give them an edge over their peers. Exposure to court procedures, being involved in evidence and cross examinations is what they should be aiming at the early stages of their career. They should eagerly look out for opportunities to present arguments be it at the stage of interim hearings or final arguments. 

    Get in touch with Usha Lakshmipathaiah-