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  • Ms. Aarushi Bhatnagar, Managing Attorney at PUNHANI LLC on LLM from NLU Jodhpur and NYU, cracking the NY state bar exam and practising immigration law in the United States

    Ms. Aarushi Bhatnagar, Managing Attorney at PUNHANI LLC on LLM from NLU Jodhpur and NYU, cracking the NY state bar exam and practising immigration law in the United States

    This interview has been published by Sonali Parashar and the SuperLawyer Team


    If we start from the beginning, were you always academically diligent? Did you always want to pursue law? What other career would you have chosen if not law?

    I have always considered myself a sincere but average student. I was not excessively academically inclined during my school years. Instead, my interests were directed toward art-related extra-curricular activities. Accordingly, my slam-book career goal was to be a fashion designer. At the same time, I had a strong family background in law, with multiple family members being in judiciary and litigation. Being amidst frequent family discussions involving topical legal issues, I gained valuable insight into the legal world and its opportunities. Ultimately, my interest in engaging with current affairs and doing my part to help the people around me pushed me to pursue law as a career.

    You have completed your master’s from NLU Jodhpur. Would you like to share a few tips with the students who are preparing for CLAT? How different is the preparation of CLAT PG from that of UG?

    The best advice that I can give to students preparing for the CLAT is to do as many practice tests as possible. In my experience, that is the key to cracking any competitive exam. Of course, studying and knowing the basic material that will be tested in the exam is also essential.

    I found the CLAT PG preparation to be easier than the UG preparation. The subjects tested in the CLAT PG exam are part of the law school curriculum. If one has studied and built a strong foundation in the relevant law subjects during their undergraduate years, the CLAT PG exam preparation becomes a revision exercise. On the other hand, students preparing for the CLAT UG exam are right out of high school with no formal exposure to legal academia. In such a situation, enrolling in a good entrance prep course is worth considering.

    Despite having an LL.M. Degree from NLU Jodhpur, you decided to pursue another LL.M. degree from NYU and had the flexibility of designing your course structure (subjects) there. What major considerations should one take into account while designing their course? What extra efforts have you made being a foreigner?

    Many LL.M. programs provide the students with an opportunity to design their coursework. However, one must consider several factors while making this decision. First, the coursework should align with the candidate’s short-term and long-term career aspirations. A career in law is often path-dependent, and the first job often charts the path for future professional endeavours. Second, it is essential to choose an area that complements the candidate’s prior experience. Choosing a field that builds upon the existing credentials ensures that one can make the most out of a short and rigorous LL.M. program. On the other hand, LL.M. also provides a unique opportunity to diversify into new areas. It is essential to consider one’s areas of interest and the corresponding job opportunities while striking that balance.

    As a foreigner, one should put extra effort when making space in a completely alien environment. I actively participated in networking events (both within and outside the university) and pro-bono activities, which gave me the familiarity and visibility required to succeed in the US job market. At the same time, being flexible and open-minded facilitated my venture into immigration law, a field that I have since fallen in love with.

    Can you share in brief about your current role and responsibilities as a Managing Attorney at a boutique law firm in the NJ/NY area? How do you manage to maintain a work-life balance?

    As the Managing Attorney of a boutique law firm, I have a diverse and dynamic set of responsibilities. I am responsible for onboarding clients, managing the cases from inception to completion, and handling the firm’s day-to-day operations. I advise multinational corporations, business units, and individuals on employment-based and family-based immigrant and non-immigrant visa petitions and applications. My role also entails hiring and training junior staff, including attorneys, law clerks, and paralegals.

    Compartmentalizing my work and non-work activities helps me maintain a good work-life balance. While at work, I dedicate myself to planning and executing my tasks efficiently. Breaking complex cases and procedures into simple daily tasks helps me leave the office with a sense of completion and accomplishment. It also ensures that work anxiety and stress do not spill over to my personal life. During weekends, I like to travel and engage in cooking, arts, and crafts. Having an active lifestyle rejuvenates me and prepares me for the upcoming work week. However, there are certain times when maintaining a work-life balance is challenging. In those times, having a good support system at home helped me keep my spirits up.

    You used to work as an Assistant Professor at Banasthali University, Rajasthan and now you are working in a law firm. What all struggles did you face adjusting in Banasthali and then in a Law Firm? What all things and skills did you learn as an Assistant Professor which are now assisting you in your current role as a Managing Attorney in your Law Firm?

    Teaching at a university and working in a law firm is different in certain aspects. As a teacher, I followed a well-structured curriculum and spent all my efforts ensuring that my students remained interested in the topic and benefited from the course. On the other hand, managing a law firm requires me to handle unanticipated challenges daily. However, I have enjoyed both these roles and did not face any issues in transitioning from the former to the latter. Instead, I found that the teaching skills I developed in Banasthali come in handy when I train new hires at the law firm.

    Would you like to share a bit about the field of immigration law? What is the future scope and struggles involved in the same?

    Immigration is a very dynamic field of law. It involves securing and defending the rights of immigrants from various countries and backgrounds. The legal landscape is constantly evolving, and the changes substantially impact many companies and individuals. The ongoing pandemic has amplified immigration-related issues by forcing many firms to downsize and leaving many immigrants jobless and without a livelihood. Given the ever-increasing importance of the field, it is (arguably) one of the most attractive and rewarding career paths for law students.

    You also cleared the NY state bar exam. How strenuous was the preparation? What are the eligibility criteria for the exam?

    Preparing for the NY State Bar Exam is like a full-time job. It was one of the most challenging tasks I have undertaken. Enrolling in a good bar prep course is extremely helpful.

    There are various qualifying methods to sit for the NY state bar exam. The most common criteria include graduating with a first law degree (J.D.) from an American Bar Association-approved law school. However, in the case of international students/foreign-educated lawyers, the eligibility criteria are pretty cumbersome. All foreign-educated lawyers must submit an online credential evaluation request along with the required documentation to the Board of Law Examiners. One should submit these documents even before the start of the LL.M. program because the evaluation process is time-consuming. LL.M. students must also fulfil the specified credits requirements via classroom courses in substantive and procedural law and professional skills. The official website of the New York State Board of Law Examiners provides the detailed eligibility criteria and application process.

    What will be your parting words for our readers? 

    Focus on having both career goals and life goals. Be ambitious and entrepreneurial but remember that professional success depends heavily on working smart (in addition to working hard). Reach out to people and take their guidance, rather than spending time reinventing the wheel. Be patient and diligent, and success will eventually come. Lastly, prioritize creating a wholesome life experience as it is the journey that counts.


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  • What does it take to become a partner? Sahil Narang, Partner at Khaitan & Co and AOR, Supreme Court shares his 8-year-long journey at Khaitan: from junior associate to a distinguished Partner.

    What does it take to become a partner? Sahil Narang, Partner at Khaitan & Co and AOR, Supreme Court shares his 8-year-long journey at Khaitan: from junior associate to a distinguished Partner.

    This interview has been published by Sonali Parashar and the SuperLawyer Team


    Let us begin with the most important question, did you always dream of becoming a lawyer or, did it happen by chance? Also, tell us about your journey.

    Before coming to what led me to become a lawyer- a little bit about me. I hail from Abohar, a small town, about 30 km from the India-Pakistan border, in the State of Punjab. My grandfather was a local politician and social worker, and my father was a lawyer practising at the city civil courts, Abohar who, quite often, also used to attend and appear before the District Courts at Ferozepur (later at Fazilka, a border town). So, I was exposed to the field of law at a very young age. 

    Since I grew up looking at my father, working diligently as a lawyer and collecting hundreds of books for his library every year, the curiosity towards law was imbibed in me by default. However, I had a huge interest in the field of science during my school days and wanted to become either a doctor or an engineer given the trend prevalent at that time.  I went on to study science in the 11th and 12th standard and gave competitive exams such as the IIT, AIEEE, etc. to get admission into engineering courses back then. I had an option to continue that pursuit and become an engineer, however, the innate affinity towards law imbibed within me from childhood, looking at the meticulous way my father used to practise law, pushed me to pursue the study of law. Therefore, rather than getting admission in some renowned engineering college, I enrolled in the B.A.(Hons.) program at DAV College, Chandigarh affiliated to the Panjab University, Chandigarh. I passed BA with a distinction in Political Science in 2005, post which I got selected in the three-year law course at one of the oldest institutions in the region, the Department of Laws, Chandigarh, my father’s alma mater.

    Since I was inclined to continue the study of law and give competitive examinations including the judicial services exam, I got admitted to the LL.M course at NALSAR University of Law, Hyderabad through CLAT. I was actively involved in research, pro bono work and co-curricular activities at the university during the LL.M course

    During my days at NALSAR, I was introduced to various opportunities in the field of law. I also got an opportunity to attend the Private International Law Course at the Hague Academy of International Law at, the Hague, the Netherlands in 2009. Eventually, I joined Khaitan & Co. and a decade later – here we are. 

    The present focus is on advising on regulatory issues, commercial litigation, and the representation of various clients from the entertainment and multiplex industry across India. If we draw a comparison between the global and Indian entertainment and multiplex industries, were you able to predict these advancements in the legal arena?  

    The advancement in the legal arena surrounding a sector depends upon the growth of that sector. I have been blessed to get exposure to and advise and represent clients in various sectors including in the entertainment and multiplex industry during my career. The Indian entertainment and multiplex industry caters to a very different demographic as compared to the western world. Although we receive some guidance from other countries when it comes to legal issues surrounding this sector. While there is a significant amount of autonomy and minimal regulation in western countries in the sphere of entertainment and cinemas, jurisprudence is still evolving in India. We still see heavy regulation by the government in these spheres and archaic laws which are dealing with these fields. The Indian cinema industry is faced with archaic laws which need to be updated given the fast-paced development in this area. The liberalisation of Indian cinemas and the recent shift to OTT has been a game-changer on how people consume entertainment in today’s world. The recent years have witnessed a massive influx of OTT giants such as Netflix and Amazon foraying into the Indian market. This has led to an increased reliance on Indian lawyers to assist them to find their way into the Indian space and steer clear from legal repercussions. The real challenge is for the regulation to catch up with the development of this sector.    

    You were named as one of the lawyers for Legal Era’s 40 under 40 list in the field of law for the year 2020, and you also served as the Co-Chair of Competition Law & Consumer Affairs Committee of PHDCCI for Presidential Year 2021-22. Congratulations on adding another feather to your cap. What is your next goal? Is there anything you’d like to tell us about?

    I had started with Khaitan & Co as an intern in the year 2009, got a PPO and became a Partner with the Dispute Resolution practice group, New Delhi in the year 2018. I have learnt a lot during this time. Currently, I lead a team of lawyers working on the dispute resolution side with a primary focus on commercial litigation and arbitration. The year 2020 was a very challenging year given the outbreak of the COVID-19 pandemic. It brought the best out of many of us. I was very lucky to have worked on a variety of matters despite the disruption in the legal sector because of the pandemic. It was because of the wide variety of work and the client’s recommendations that helped me get recognised in recent years. 

    However, I wish to be mindful that it’s a sea out there and there is still more to be achieved. I would want to expand my commercial litigation and arbitration practice, both domestic and international, and engage more in highly complex and challenging disputes. 

    Besides this, I would also like to contribute to the development of jurisprudence in various nuances of laws including beneficial legislations made for ease of trade and commerce.

    Having received so much from the legal fraternity, I would like to take out time to render legal advice to individuals and organisations that are unable to afford legal advice and/or cannot access legal aid. Various organisations are doing good work in this sphere. However, it is particularly overwhelming to see young law students very effectively running legal aid clinics in their colleges and effectively using social media to educate people and spread legal awareness. It would be a privilege to be associated with such benevolent activities.  

    At this juncture of my career, I would want to engage with law students and young lawyers to share the experiences and learnings, which I have received in my career to date. In fact, in furtherance of this endeavour, I have been actively participating in such webinars and would certainly like to keep that going. 

    I would conclude with a famous quote – ‘Big tasks are still out there and a lot of hard work yet to be done.

    You are involved in research and have authored some extensive research on a variety of topics. How has research work helped you stay updated with the academics as well as policy and legislative changes that we see occur from time to time?

    I think the most important tool in a lawyer’s toolbox is his / her ability to research, read and write. During my time at NALSAR University of Law, while pursuing the masters’ course, I realised that one of the best things one could invest in is books, be it academic or otherwise. This habit of reading will inculcate a life-long habit of curiosity and research.  

    This helped me immensely during my preparation for the coveted Advocate-on-record exam of the Supreme Court of India. Getting admitted is a major achievement as very few lawyers qualify in this annually held examination conducted by the Supreme Court of India.

    In addition, knowing and being abreast of the current position of law gives one confidence in dealing with and correctly advising a client.  

    Further, research methodologies would generally include comparatives analysis of legislation across jurisdictions and critique of legislation and policy prevalent in various jurisdictions. This would in turn give one perspective of laws of developed countries and what legislative changes our country may see. 

    Mr. Sahil Narang, Partner at Khaitan & Co.

    Can you give our readers a brief idea of what they need to prepare for if they want to climb the corporate ladder based on your experience representing international commercial arbitration in a variety of matters?

    There is no shortcut to hard work, perseverance, and commitment. I would add that in the initial years, a young lawyer must remain open to all kinds of work whether he/she chooses to join a law firm, a senior counsel or a chamber practice for his/her training. At a later stage, one may discover their interest in a particular field of law.  

    Further, for one to excel and climb the corporate ladder, it is important to be client-centric, innovative, detail-oriented, and prolific. These virtues will not only make one solution-oriented but also will give them an edge over other contemporaries.

    In the field of arbitration, it is important to refer to commentaries of various celebrated authors on arbitration and keep abreast of recent judgments by the courts.  

    What was the one learning experience throughout your entire career that you’d credit to have shaped your career and brought you to this point?

    My family, I would say has been my greatest motivator, and has shaped my career. Seeing my father practising law at the city civil courts, Abohar, working hard, day in and day out, motivated me at a very young age to work hard and excel in academics. Further, having roots in a very small town has made me grounded but at the same time meaningfully ambitious.

    Can you take us through a typical day in your life? Is it possible to carve out time for your other interests or hobbies given your hectic schedule as a renowned Partner at Khaitan & Co?

    In pre-covid times, most parts of my day were spent either in courts or in office. Substantial time used to be spent commuting from court to office or conferences and venues for arbitration. Travelling used to take a fair share of my time, however, with most courts and tribunals going virtual, I could save a lot of time. Consequently, efficiency increased. During covid times, my day is usually spent on reviewing drafts, attending conference calls with my colleagues in the team, clients, and senior counsel. I also make it a point to read the latest case laws of the Supreme Court and other courts on dispute resolution and arbitration. Even in my hectic schedule, I make it a point to take out time for my family. I love to read books on weekends. My favourite pastime since my college days has been to watch movies in multiplexes and the latest series on OTT platforms. I have recently picked up badminton as a sport and would also like to learn to play the piano soon.  

    What career advice do you have for our readers? In my opinion, to be successful in the field of law one must inculcate a habit of reading at a young age. One thing that has helped me in being thorough in my work is that I read every document in full, irrespective of any preconceived notions. I would advise law students to read, read and read everything you can get your hands on. To put this in perspective, my favourite quote is by Walt Disney- “There is more treasure in books than in all the pirate’s loot on Treasure Island.”


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  • Lovejeet Singh- Managing Associate at Chandhiok & Mahajan, Alumni of Cardiff University UK, who paved his path in assorted parts of the law

    Lovejeet Singh- Managing Associate at Chandhiok & Mahajan, Alumni of Cardiff University UK, who paved his path in assorted parts of the law

    This interview has been published by Tanmaya Sharma. The Interview was taken by The SuperLawyer Team.


    Why does corporate law attract so much attention? What makes it so unique?

    The corporate sector in India is at a developing stage. The majority of the mid-size businesses in India are still not structured formally and are gradually moving towards formalization. Considering the aforesaid, there is a huge potential in corporate law practice. Further, there is a dearth of corporate lawyers in Tier II and Tier III cities including small towns. I think this is one of the key reasons that corporate law attracts more attention.

    The other aspect which makes corporate law unique is the financial aspect. Starting one’s legal journey in courts in India is still not financially viable, whereas, a career in corporate law with a law firm usually leads to a decent pay package even at the early stages of the career.  

    If we start from the beginning, were you ever dicey while choosing law as a career option? 

    I was never dicey while choosing law as a career option. As my father is a tax lawyer, I always had an inclination to be a lawyer from my school days despite being aware that it requires a lot of hard work and determination. I used to accompany him to tax tribunals at times during my school vacation. The courtrooms always intrigued me to be a lawyer. 

    However, I took time in choosing my practice area. I joined law school with a thought process that I will become a tax lawyer and join my father, however, later I realized my inclination towards corporate-commercial law. 

    You completed your LLB in 2008 from Panjab University and LLM (Commercial Law) in 2009 from Cardiff University, Cardiff (UK). How strenuous was it to get into Cardiff, a top ten university in the UK? Would you like to share your internship experience with a Kuala Lumpur-based law firm?

    I would say that completing Masters in Law at Cardiff University was more strenuous than getting into the university. As the Indian legal education system (when I completed law) was more subjective, getting a hang of the English education system (which focuses more on the practical side) took some time and effort in the initial days. Education at Cardiff University helped me to enhance my analytical and problem-solving skills which are much necessitated for a lawyer.  

    I had a delightful experience with Azmi & Associates, a Kuala Lumpur-based law firm. It was my first experience with a foreign law firm. I worked on corporate transactions and did advisory work during my internship. Perhaps, some of the assignments involved Indian parties so I also used to refer to Indian law. Further, the Contract Act and Companies Act applicable at that point of time in Malaysia were similar to what was applicable in India, hence adapting with work was not difficult. The Firm and its members were very supportive. I am still in touch with the Managing Partner and Corporate Partner of the firm.

    You assisted many renowned authors like Late Dr. Avtar Singh and were engaged in legal research while employed in LexisNexis. Immediately after that, you moved to CLG and dedicated almost 5 years. How has research work helped you in establishing your legal understanding at CLG?

    I think one of the important requirements for legal practice is that you should be aware of where the law is and what it says. Implementation of the law is a subsequent step. The research work done at LexisNexis helped me to gain an in-depth understanding of what the law says. Considering my interest in corporate-commercial law, I was always given the opportunity at Lexis Nexis to work on books relating to corporate-commercial law. 

    I would say that the research work gave me a foundation to practice law. At CLG, I worked in different areas of law including advice on corporate matters, regulatory aspects (in sectors like food processing and pharma) and disputes resolution. While I was not very keen to work on the disputes side, the Managing Partner at CLG persuaded me to have some experience of commercial litigation/ arbitration to have a holistic experience of legal practice. 

    You advise in assorted sectors like aviation, automobile, chemicals and fertilizers, food processing, manufacturing, IT, infrastructure, hospitality, and shipping. Which industry interests you the most? How does one handle advising all such evolving industries together?

    I find the transport industry (specifically aviation and shipping) more interesting in comparison to other sectors. I still remember my first assignment concerning aviation finance advice at Clasis Law. I found it challenging initially but, the aspects involved while advising on the assignment were fascinating. Subsequently, my secondment at Clyde & Co, Dubai in 2018 brought me closer to the aviation sector where I worked with the aviation team and got an opportunity to work on various aspects of aviation. I am currently advising on shipbuilding contracts and contracts relating to the procurement of equipment for shipbuilding.

    With regards to handling evolving sectors together, I think it is imperative to stay abreast with the legal developments in these sectors. As these are evolving sectors, the law keeps on developing from time to time and it is important to keep yourself updated to advise on such evolving sectors.

    What responsibilities do you carry out as a Managing Associate with Chandhiok & Mahajan (C&M)?

    At C&M, I handle transactional and advisory work. I have been working on assignments relating to aviation, automobile, chemicals and fertilizers, manufacturing, IT, and shipping. In addition, I am also gaining exposure to other areas of law such as insolvency and restructuring. 

    We often hear that a lawyer has a never-ending learning process. What is your next move to accelerate your career?

    Yes, learning is a never-ending process for lawyers and I believe it is important to upgrade your skills from time to time. 

    Going forward, I intend to focus on business development and further enhance my advocacy skills. I am currently exploring suitable study programs which can be taken up simultaneously with work to enhance my aforesaid skills. 

    Other than work, you are a fitness enthusiast and are involved in reading insightful books. How would you inspire a young mind to follow a healthy routine? 

    I think a healthy routine is not just for physical fitness, it also has an impact on your professional life. 

    For instance, following a regular fitness regime requires persistent determination and it keeps you more disciplined and focussed. Achieving fitness goals also boosts a person’s confidence. In my view, discipline, perseverance, a focussed approach, setting goals, and learning something new each day are a few of the key essentials for a successful professional life. I believe the advantages of a healthy routine and prerequisites for a successful career are interlinked.

    This connection can probably be a source of inspiration for young minds as everyone aims for a successful career. Further, reading insightful books keeps me motivated to keep going. I remember a quote from my recent read – Robin Sharma’s ‘5 AM Club’ which says “When you feel like surrendering, continue. Triumph loves the relentless.


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  • HARSH VARDHAN TIWARI, AN RGNUL GRAD AND CLAT MENTOR, ON HIS LLM, MENTORING YOUNG LEGAL MINDS AND ON MANAGING ADMISSIONS AT JGLS

    HARSH VARDHAN TIWARI, AN RGNUL GRAD AND CLAT MENTOR, ON HIS LLM, MENTORING YOUNG LEGAL MINDS AND ON MANAGING ADMISSIONS AT JGLS

    This interview has been published by Isam Kabir and The Super Lawyer team.

    How would you like to introduce yourself to our readers? 

    I’d like to believe that I am warm, affable and sociable. Also, I have never refused an offer of a hot cup of ginger-tea. My love for chai sprouted over the elaborate (and sometimes heated!) tea-time discussions and debates during my sojourn at RGNUL Patiala. Having also been a part of several specialized research centers and editorial boards, I must credit the 5-years at RGNUL for having provided me with the awareness, perspective, and fond memories that I now deeply cherish. 

    I was clear, even long before I had graduated, that academics was my calling. 

    I have, since, worked to meticulously explore the landscape of legal education in India from diverse vantage points. 

    I pursued my LL.M. from the University of Buckingham to have gained knowledge and be ready for higher education learning space. Also, over nearly 3 years now, I am proud to have been a mentor to over 3000 bright young law aspirants in the capacity of a CLAT entrance coach. 

    Presently, I work for the Law School Admissions and Outreach at the OP Jindal Global University, Sonipat. This experience has lent me priceless insight into the critical process of selection (and rejection) at a premier Indian law school. 

    I intend to make deeper forays into legal academia soon and eventually contribute not just to reforming legal education in India but also to strengthen our machinery of justice delivery. 

    You were a science student during your high school years which is quite interesting since you decided to do law after that. What was the trajectory for you from being a science student to your interest in law?

    Well, having been a student of science has contributed towards the development of a scientific temper (Fun Fact: It is a Fundamental Duty under Article 51A of the Constitution of India !) 

    However, I eventually found myself more inclined towards the study of politics and sociology- thus making law an obvious academic choice for higher education. Also, I saw the law as an instrument through which I could contribute the most significant to society; especially by creating awareness about law and justice. 

    A lawyer is at the vanguard of policy change, protection of the underprivileged, and even of the ‘re-writing of history. 

    In your portfolio, you’re listed as the co-founder of CLAT Manthan, an initiative to help law enthusiasts crack the CLAT exam. Were there any personal experiences that motivated you to start this venture? 

    This organization was founded by me along with my college roommate with a vision of providing affordable and accessible entrance test preparation. We are committed to creating leaders- and not followers. 

    Indeed, this was inspired by the rich experience as possible through my work as the  Project Lead(Maverick) at LawSikho, Head of Operation at CLAT Path, Legal Faculty at CLAT Possible, Head (CLAT vertical) at Pahuja Law Academy and as a content creator at Legal Edge & Toprankers.

    In particular, as the Project Lead (Maverick) at LawSikho, hundreds of hours of quality lessons were made available to students at just Rs.100. Dozens of my lectures are freely available even now on YouTube. 

    CLAT-Manthan is a platform that is intended to serve my vision of accessible legal education and legal recourse.   

    HARSH VARDHAN TIWARI

    You’ve also constantly worked with CLAT coaching institutes to help students. Do you think that the law entrance exams in India can’t be cracked without secondary help? 

    In my frank (and reasonably informed) estimation, there is no entrance exam that cannot be cracked through self-study alone. 

    Coaching institutes and their teachers, however, mean much more to students than simply ‘secondary aids’ to cracking an exam. Law aspirants receive guidance and wisdom from the teachers along with healthy competition motivation from their peers. 

    For me, the prospect of coaching future leaders has always been enthralling. There is much more to it than meets the eye! 

    I fondly remember having traveled across 13 cities – sometimes even embarking on journeys as long as 12-13 hours – just to deliver a 2-hour session on Legal Reasoning. 

    Given your publications for which you’ve also had recommendations, what is it about writing or the field of academia that piques your interest?

    Perhaps the most gratifying aspect of a scholarly paper is the opportunity that is afforded to research on a topic of my choice. Otherwise, our area of research is ordinarily determined by professional requirements.

    The process of research necessitates a critical and deep review of a wide array of literature. The subsequent writing process helps me assimilate and remember the facts and arguments therein. Another facet of article-writing that captivates me is the diversity of opinion that one has to consider when working exploring the contours of the subject. In addition to rewarding me with new learning, it helps me analyze, critique, challenge, and sometimes even unlearn some existing ideas and dogma. 

    Apart from being a task of academic rigor, it is also creatively very fulfilling. I strongly recommend everyone to undertake academic writing at least twice a year, regardless of whether he/she is a student or a working professional. The experience is unique to every individual. I know some people who even find this process therapeutic. 

    You’ve also judged the prestigious Stetson Moot Court. How important do you think a moot court is in shaping someone as a lawyer? Do future corporate or commercial lawyers need to moot as much as litigators? 

    Well, cynics often pejoratively comment on how ‘mooting’ is different from the ‘real’ courtroom scenario. While this is not wholly untrue, this opinion undermines the great significance of mooting for a law student. 

    Mooting competitions help students imbibe several qualities of great lawyering. They are impelled research, frame arguments, and draft memorials within strict deadlines. During the oral rounds, students learn courtroom demeanor and also face several fears related to public speaking. 

    Perhaps just as importantly, it also provides students with an opportunity to gain exposure to other universities and build a wider professional network. 

    Needless to mention, the after-parties are something to look forward to after the competition is concluded!

    Currently, you’re working with one of the most prestigious private law schools in India as part of their Admissions and Outreach office. Can you tell our readers a bit more about your roles and responsibilities there? 

    I am working with a dedicated and experienced Law School Admission Team. Promoting Examination LSAT India amongst law aspirants in India and generating interest in the aptitude test and help candidates understand the global nature of the exam. I am also involved in educating the masses about the new course BA (Hons) Legal Studies and help students realize which course suits them better. 

    I have been involved in taking Online Webinars for UG programs, attending Education fairs, meeting students and their parents, devising social media strategies, and also leading LLM Admissions efforts. This year we have admitted more than 350 students to the LLM Program at JGLS. Our admissions this year have already bettered our admissions last year by a whopping 180 enrolments. 

    Lastly, any parting advice for our readers? 

    Define everything in detail, every single thing. Write the script before you start. Once the script is ready, go out and achieve it. 

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  • Aashhok Prohit on being a third-generation lawyer, winning a case against Queen’s Counsel and having faith in himself.

    Aashhok Prohit on being a third-generation lawyer, winning a case against Queen’s Counsel and having faith in himself.

    This interview has been published by Isam Kabir and The Super Lawyer team .

    1 How did you choose law? What were the key deciding factors for you?

    I am a third-generation lawyer; I have looked up to my grandfather and father for guidance and wisdom. My grandfather pursued LLM and was a Company Secretary (from the first batch of CS). My father was a Lawyer and Certified Internal Auditor. He was working as a Legal Consultant with many International Companies. He was actively involved in compliance and regulatory requirements of companies interested in setting up their offices overseas. 

    Looking at their vast experience and accompanying my father for his conferences, the law was a natural choice. My work ranged from making notes, helping him in drafting and referring to points discussed in the meeting. While observing their communication, I moulded my analytical thinking from a legal perspective, and I realized that then there is no surrogate for hard work and success.

    My father always asked and taught me to “Carve My Path”. Therefore my initiation into the field of law was an interesting journey in itself.

    Two individuals going through the same school and curriculum will come out equipped with different skill sets. Therefore the fundamental moulding gave me an objective view to analyze cases and set me apart from my other fellow students. This mindset prepared me to deal with anything that came my way. 

    2. Before venturing into law, you had been a science student and earned a degree in Chemistry. However, you also read law as well as pursued Masters in Finance. Can you tell us about the factors that influenced you to pursue these different pathways?

    After my 12th, I was offered to study in a UGC Sponsored program of Chemistry and Industrial Chemistry, a course customized to create entrepreneurs with a science background. This course enhanced my logical evaluation from a scientific and management perspective. 

    After my graduation, I visited an education fair for Universities based in the United Kingdom (UK), where I applied and was later offered a part-scholarship for doing a Masters in Banking and Finance from a prestigious University in the United Kingdom. 

    After completing my graduation and working in the field of Finance, I saw a vacuum in the compliance work being carried out in the legal department. My inner calling for law pulled me to apply for a conversion course into law, and I graduated in the field of law.

    3. Do you believe having foreign education is more glorified on merit than its due?

    I don’t believe that foreign education is glorified; it is the opportunities attached to it which makes it a more lucrative option for students. 

    The courses designed by the international universities require total commitment from the students. Therefore, it is often a requirement for students to stay on-campus during the term, especially when a student is pursuing a Masters degree program. In addition, there are many resources of databases made available to students to enhance their research. This practical based teaching methodology sets the foreign universities apart.

    In my humble view, there is a clear requirement for a more practical based teaching methodology in the Indian education system.

    4.For people who want to work in European and American countries, what would be your advice?

    Firstly the cultural difference in both countries is significant. People who intend to go and work there need to be prepared to adapt themselves to the work-life, work ethics and work culture of western countries. 

    It is often a culture shock for most Indian students and as there is a completely different work environment that makes them uncomfortable. 

    In my experience, the work demands immense commitment and requires a person to constantly update their skill sets to adhere to strict deadlines and deliver results. This is coupled with the pressure that the companies are hugely invested in the individual through their recruitment process.

    I suggest to all aspirants that they should be prepared to shun their comfortable living habits, something which they are used to in India with their family around them. 

    5. How did you decide upon practising litigation after being on the corporate side of work?

    While assisting my father in drafting and due diligence, I actively got involved in dispute resolutions. I realized the Bar was my calling and felt comfortable in making appearances before tribunals. I believed that I could argue as well or even better than some counsels I had witnessed.  

    The current legal system in India possesses provisions in the law that enable the litigants who are below the poverty line (BPL) free government legal aid. In addition, the advocates on the legal aid panels are experienced enough to assist the litigants through the trials. However, I feel that there is a lack of ProBono work, and the leading law firms should participate more proactively in Pro-Bono work. 

    6.You were also a Director at an NGO called Global Vision India Foundation, whose work taught the poor, providing food and education. How did this NGO become a part of your endeavours?

    Whilst pursuing my LLM in criminology, I interacted a lot with the then Head of Law Department of Mumbai University, Dr Ashok Yende Sir. He was a great mentor and a very committed person who wanted to contribute to society. He realized through my work that we shared similar ideologies. So I felt privileged when he asked me to be a part of his NGO and appointed me as the youngest director.

    7.You have fought a landmark case that allowed Asians, especially Indians, to apply for firms in London and the UK. Could you share any insightful details from this matter with our readers?

    To qualify as a solicitor, every law student had to get a training contract in a UK-based law firm. The application had to be submitted, and interviews were conducted two years before the training contract job. 

    Since I was not a British National or a European Economic Area (EEA) National, I was informed that it would be impossible for me to get a training contract. It was uncommon for law firms to recruit a non-EEA National.

    I shared my shock and surprise regarding the discriminatory policy of recruitment by all the law firms and especially the top leading law firm in the UK with my tutors. I explained how it was both essentially and morally wrong.

    Ironically, the country known as the ‘torch-bearer’ against racism was refusing jobs based on race. All the law firms I approached refused to take my case pro bono or professionally, as they felt the recruitment procedure being followed was as per the land law. 

    And no person had every filed such a case to challenge this discrimination policy of recruitment, as even after knowing that it existed they still could not prove it in court. Some experienced advocates from India who had gone to pursue their masters had also accepted this discriminating policy instead of fighting it. I only received negative feedback in regards to challenging the discrimination.

    Finally, I discussed the matter with my father and informed him that “I felt what I was proposing was correct, and therefore I was going to fight an uphill battle with all the leading law firms in the UK.” He was very pleased with my objective evaluation and I got all the moral support from my parents to take on all the law firms single-handedly. 

    I applied for a job in a law firm in the UK for a training contract, and as expected, my application was rejected due to the absence of a work permit. However, I still proceeded and filed the application form in the online application process.

    My application was immediately rejected within minutes of submitting it. Following this, I challenged the top ten 10 law firms in the UK court. 

    It was revealed that my application was graded because there was a court case against the law firm. Before that, all non-EEA National Applicants’ were segregated and automatically rejected. 

    I explained to the courts that it was the employer’s job to spend thousands of pounds in evaluating applicants to objectively prove to the UKBA ( The UK Border Agency) that a work permit should be granted.

    I successfully proved in court that the application and recruitment process must be based entirely on merit. However, that was only on paper. There was an underlying indirect racial discrimination process being followed by all the leading law firms who advised all the big companies to segregate all NON_EEA Applicants applications. 

    I single-handedly won the case as a student against the well known Queen’s Counsel (QC), who was instructed  by some of the leading solicitors and backed by law firms. I put forth my arguments against racial discrimination and how the law firms were misinterpreting the law. The Hon’ble Judge and the respected panellist at Bristol Employment Tribunal passed the judgment in my favour on account of my arguments.

    I successfully defended my victory in the Employment Appellate Tribunal (EAT), London as well. Afterwards, they could either go to the Court of Appeal (CA), London or House of Lords, the UK, which the Law Firms had no intention of pursuing.

    It was a major setback for them since a NON-EEA National Law Student single-handedly defeated them and put them back on the blackboard.

    This ruling has changed the entire recruitment process of UKBA and all the companies in all the fields in the UK.

    8. Why do you think this systemic racism and xenophobia existed, which gave preference to Caucasians and native residents over people of colour? 

    The UKBA believed that only the UK and EEA (European Economic Area) Nationals would be suitable candidates for the job and should be preferred irrespective of merit. 

    The application of a non-EEA National, irrespective of his merit, would only be considered after he has passed all these almost impenetrable hurdles. 

    Interestingly, they made Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) Guidelines for companies. Some law firm partners even authored books as a guideline to follow the recruitment process, which was unfortunately entirely based on their misinterpretation of discriminatory laws and policies.

    However, this position has changed post judgement of my case.

    9. In your portfolio, you have mentioned that ‘fortune favours the bold and prepared minds’, and it’s evident that you have taken many decisions in your career that required courage. What would be your advice to young professionals who are fearful of change?

    If you believe in something right and have done all your research, be prepared to take the right steps. Failure happens only when a person doesn’t try.

    No one will walk you to your destiny. Instead, you will have to cover the journey and create your destiny!

    I have never hesitated to explore and have always considered attending new courses with time. Don’t get carried away by looking at what others are doing. Work on your strengths. When I judge moot court competitions, I make it a point to test students outside their comfort zone, which brings the best out of them. I have built a reputation for testing students and keeping them on their toes, as I have always prepared myself before judging the competition as if I am participating in it. The students feel that they have fought and won the competition as if they have won an actual case in court. 

    It is important to identify your strengths and work on them. If you want to practice litigation, then don’t hesitate to work in the lower courts. I was walking the corridors of the High Court of Bombay, working on some media highlighted matters. However, when someone asked me how the matter eventually ended up in the High Court, I was unaware. So I decided to go and learn the basics of trial by observing trial courts, and it has been a learning experience. 

    Initially, I had a rule that I would never take up work for the money. I used to do it for bare minimum fees and at times free, but with the commitment similar to a well-paying client. These are the things that paid off as it was the experience and exposure I got to deal with matters, and the more favourable orders I got, the more my confidence increased. So the underlying principle is that a person should not hesitate to work.

    The best way to learn is to work in an uncomfortable environment. That teaches a person the most.

    10. How has the pandemic been for you? How have you dealt with it personally and professionally?

    It has been a testing time personally and professionally. However, the things that kept me going are adaptability and family support. 

    The lockdown let me search myself and gave me the time to read, brush up and update my legal knowledge. 

    There have been changes in how the hearings have been conducted in courts, and it has taught me that a person needs to be prepared to incorporate changes in their own life. 

    Most importantly, this lockdown has allowed me to spend more time with my family, especially my daughters. So it has been satisfying on a personal level. 

    11. What has been the biggest risk that has paid off for you or the biggest moment of learning for you in your entire career? 

    Fighting against the top law firms was the biggest risk in itself. If I failed, no law firm in the UK would employ me. 

    I remember that none of the law firms was prepared to take my case professionally or pro bono. However, I got the opportunity to prove them wrong and understand the true meaning of ‘Interpretation of law’. I had a nostalgic moment remembering what my respected late father advised me “Law is not taught in law schools or books of law, but it is a gift of the gap”. 

    12. Lastly, any parting advice to our readers who are exploring the legal field? 

    If you believe in something, work hard towards it and bring the change that you envision!

    Do not shy away from negativity and welcome constructive criticism. This is the only way of self-improvement and being the best version of yourself.

    I have noticed a trend among students being overwhelmed by those from higher-ranked law schools. I’ll suggest that if you have worked hard, have done your research, and then you should only be concerned about giving your best. 

    Never feel pressured and underestimate yourself. Always aim to give it your best. The outcome is not in your control, but the efforts are.

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  • Rajinder Kaur, Researcher and Professor, University Institute of Legal Studies, on making a successful career as a legal researcher

    Rajinder Kaur, Researcher and Professor, University Institute of Legal Studies, on making a successful career as a legal researcher

    Prof.(Dr.) Rajinder Kaur is a veteran in the field of research and currently a Professor of Law at University Institute of Legal Studies. She has achieved the prestigious prefix of the professor at a very young age, courtesy her extensive success in publishing and researching. She has dedicated her life to unceasing research and development in the law, with three of her case studies listed in the Harvard Business review! She has also collaborated and worked on numerous government projects. Her blend of new-age gallant thinking in law and advantage of teaching the same in classrooms makes her the perfect picture of success every young law enthusiast can aspire to achieve.

    In this interview she talks to us about:

    • How to become a successful researcher
    • How to choose the right journal for publishing work
    • How does the life of a researcher look like and opportunities for young researchers
    • Advise to young academicians on blending research with teaching
    • What can the new generation of students learn from her generation on the art of studying law?

     

     

    PLEASE TELL US SOMETHING ABOUT YOURSELF AND HOW YOU CAME TO BE IN THE LEGAL FIELD?

    I was pursuing pharmacy. I belong to an agricultural family and there were a lot of legal issues in the family which motivated me to pursue law instead. I did my law from Department of Laws, Panjab University.

     

    YOU HAVE DONE YOUR MASTERS IN LAW AS WELL AS THE DOCTORATE IN LAW ON THE ISSUE OF CHILD LABOUR. HOW DID YOU DECIDE TO PURSUE THIS SOCIAL ISSUE THROUGH RESEARCH-BASED STUDIES?

    There were certain articles which I came across during my graduation in an ILI journal. I was a student of constitutional law and studied certain books like ‘Neera Bura’s Born to Work’ which impacted me. So I decided to take up the topic of Child Rights.

    HOW HAS LEGAL EDUCATION SYSTEM CHANGED OVER THE YEARS AND WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES AS WELL AS DISADVANTAGES OF THIS CHANGE? WHAT CAN STUDENTS OF TODAY LEARN FROM THE OLD SYSTEM OF LEGAL EDUCATION?

    Practical training and clinical legal education have found a central place in the system of legal education today and it was not that stressed upon during our time. We were not exposed to court working and procedure until the final year itself. We came to know about the concept of mooting very late and nowadays it is part of the curriculum. Secondly, clinical education, developing legal clinics to bring awareness to citizens about their rights is also a welcome change. It simultaneously helps students develop insight into what they are actually supposed to do when they graduate from the college. The new legal education system is working towards incorporating changing trends of society, for instance, corporate and business laws are now taught as a regular subject. Research is also stressed upon more now. We didn’t have that many resources. The quality and quantity of resources have definitely brought about a significant change in the system.

    But one drawback of too many resources and activities is that depth of knowledge has decreased in students. They have a shallow knowledge of their subjects. They don’t even take into consideration the critical analysis of the subjects or topics they are studying. When we were studying, we studied a topic holistically and in entirety. Students don’t look beyond words or at the objective of having certain words and not others in the statute. This makes knowledge only superficial. While students are equipped with good oration skills and research, but in-depth knowledge is missing. For instance, Students don’t turn to constitutional debates anymore to fuel their research.

    YOU HAVE BEEN AN ACADEMICIAN FOR A LONG TIME. WHAT IS YOUR ADVICE TO STUDENTS WHO WISH TO PURSUE A CAREER IN ACADEMICS BUT ARE CONFUSED BETWEEN LITIGATION AND ACADEMICS?

    Be it practise of law or academic, one must do that which gives him/her more happiness and satisfaction. I wanted to go for the judiciary but due to Sidhu scam and various other litigations, I got into teaching instead. But when I did it, I started enjoying it. The moment you deliver a lecture and come out satisfied – that is your cue that you have made the right choice. And if you are in the court and the moment you come out and feel satisfied that you have done justice to your client, it is sufficient to conclude that this is your calling. There is no difference between the two fields and it all depends on the individual’s interest.

     

    YOU HAVE BEEN A RESEARCH SCHOLAR FOR SUCH A LONG TIME AND WRITTEN INNUMERABLE ARTICLES, THAT TOO IN DIVERSE FIELDS. HOW CAN AN ACADEMICIAN FILL THE GAP BETWEEN RESEARCH AND PRACTICAL TRAINING?

    A writer or researcher should avoid becoming self-obsessed after writing a few articles. Research is an on-going learning process. I am a teacher of Constitutional law, but due to several administrative reasons, I ended up teaching Business and Economic Laws. Company law as a subject had no takers. People usually underestimate its importance as a subject of legal education curriculum. But I found it to be very interesting and also found that labour laws, company law and corporate laws are actually interdisciplinary subjects and directly impact management.

    If you look into my research work, writing a case-study was a very challenging task for me. I was told to simply sit and observe, and note down things. There was no place for opinion in this type of researching. I was to narrate the events as it is. These case studies are now listed in the Harvard Review. But they helped me to fill the gap between research and practical training. I learnt structural problem solving and I share my experience and learning with students who gain insights into the practical aspects of working of companies. Research should be a tool to analyse the problem and solve the problem thread by thread, rather than simply looking at it as a cumulative and big problem. Steer clear of opinions and biased approaches, and simply look at the problem, bifurcate it and the gap between pragmatism and research will be filled. Case- studies method is the most sought-after way of teaching nowadays. Research can be more challenging than the practice of law! A good research exercise enhances one’s acumen in critical and analytical ability.

     

    SHOULD A RESEARCHER SPECIALIZE ON A PARTICULAR TOPIC FOR PURPOSE OF GETTING PUBLISHED OR RESEARCH ON DIVERSE TOPICS?

    One must continue in the research that is undertaken and acquire a thorough knowledge of his subject. I have done my research on child rights and then I continued it with topics of company law now have practically covered all topics under both. Now my research has ventured into Trade Conflict. Initially, I also committed some blunders, for instance, I wrote a paper on Bio-Terrorism which was very good and also got published, but I never followed up the issue through continuous research. Now I have to explain this anomaly in every interview I face.

     

    SO WHAT IS YOUR ADVICE FOR YOUNG RESEARCHERS? WHAT SUBJECTS SHOULD THEY FOCUS ON? WHAT ARE THE DO’S AND DON’TS THEY SHOULD BE AWARE OF?

    If you look at the demand in the market, it is for corporate law universities are already providing quite a lot of specialization in Constitutional law already. We need teachers to teach new upcoming subjects of national importance like Corporate Governance, CSR, Commercial Arbitration, International Trade Law, Competition Law, Financial regulatory Market etc. We are still lacking in this regard. Students should take up these subjects. Trends are changing very fast, for instance, the shift from arbitration to mediation and negotiation. So one must focus on the trends and work accordingly.

     

    HOW SHOULD STUDENTS GO ABOUT CHOOSING THE RIGHT JOURNAL FOR PUBLISHING THEIR WORK?

    Choosing the right journal has become a tricky task because there are so many predatory journals these days. A journal might have an impact factor of 3.5 or 4.5 in their local area but it doesn’t mean it is a good journal. For instance, Elsevier has an impact factor of only 1. So, it has become a market. So, one must either go for University Journals. Initially, one can start with student-run journals also. One should aim for good and standard publishers. For example – Elsevier, Springer, Sweet Maxwell, Thompson, INDUS foundation, I J Global, Lexis-Nexis etc. However, be it any journal, one must always aim for doing qualitative work and not sub-standard work. A good journal will teach you about your mistakes and shortcomings in research and that is important for growth in the field.

     

    WHAT IS A GOOD IMPACT FACTOR?

    Even a 0.1 or 0.3 is a good impact factor if it is given by the right agency. Now, the UGC has laid down that the impact factor given by Thompson Reuters will be taken into account. They mark out a journal and then give an impact factor rating. Thompson Reuters is a massive publishing house and also ranks Universities.

     

    WHAT OTHER OPPORTUNITIES EXIST FOR STUDENTS AND ACADEMICIANS LOOKING TO EXPAND THEIR CAREER IN RESEARCH (EXCEPT GETTING PUBLISHED AND TEACHING)?

    There are many opportunities for researchers. Editing is a great opportunity but command over language is very important. One can be a researcher for Government projects also. The Government hires researchers for framing public policies from time to time. One should keep a tab on the websites of various Ministries to avail the opportunity. The teachers who are selected to handle these projects also advertise for research assistants. Fellowship programs can also be availed by students.

     

    WHAT HAS BEEN THE HIGHEST POINT OF YOUR CAREER SO FAR?

    Listing my case-studies with the Harvard Business School! The first case-study took two years to complete. It was first published with Ivy and subsequently got listed with Harvard.

     

    HOW CAN ONE PUBLISH FREQUENTLY? WHAT ARE THE FUNDAMENTAL QUALITIES OF A GOOD RESEARCH SCHOLAR?

    One must give himself or herself a target and work towards achieving that target. Hap-hazard publishing will only add stress to life and lead to the imbalance between work and life. One must read a lot, and that too good books; Patience; Hard-work; Developing a framework of mind to comprehend things correctly; laying out things in the proper manner are the undisputed hallmarks of a good researcher.

     

    WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO STUDENTS OF LAW?

    Students are running towards judiciary a lot and I was also a part of this Bandwagon once. But I would advise them that they should leave it out and things will come to them on their own, whatever the fate has laid out for them. One just has to work hard. The basic aim should be to study hard and be honest with yourself. Be sincere towards your studies and rest will follow.

     

     

     

     

  • Bivas Chatterjee, Special Public Prosecutor, Govt of WB, on challenges in cyber law and skills to become a good cyber lawyer

    Bivas Chatterjee, Special Public Prosecutor, Govt of WB, on challenges in cyber law and skills to become a good cyber lawyer

    Bivas Chatterjee qualified in Law from University of Calcutta in the year 1997, thereafter he pursued his Masters in Law from the Kakatia University.  He is currently Special Public Prosecutor in Cyber Laws and Electronic evidence related cases, engaged by Government of West Bengal. He has over sixteen years of professional experience and has experience of working in cyber law. He deals with major Information Technology, telecom and infrastructure companies. He is also the author of Electronic  Evidence, Cyber Criminal Manual, Cyber Security and The Law, Cyber Contract(Legal Analysis), Dense Cloud( Legal Analysis of Cloud), Information Technology Manual, Your Ultimate Protection Guide, Cyber Adjudication. CID, West Bengal got its first conviction in the case where he was the special public prosecutor. He shares the challenges and experiences being a cyber lawyer in India.

    In this interview, he talks to us about:

    • Challenges faced in cyber law
    • The importance of cyber awareness in the digital world.
    • The skills to develop to become a good cyber lawyer
    • Combining technology with cyber law

     

    PLEASE EXPLAIN TO OUR READERS: WHAT IS CYBER LAW? DOES THIS INCLUDE TECHNOLOGY LAW?

    Summarily law, which governs the cyber/virtual world, is cyber law in common parlance. As cyber world has taken an unprecedented proportion, it has now various sub-structures. For example, people say that today it is a data world and to govern the data world, especially in this big data world, we have in USA, ECPA or other legislations to govern various data-breaches.

    In my opinion it is purely a technology law or it can be coined as techno-legal subject. We know technology runs much faster than appropriate legislation to come and that is why there is a clear constrain between law and technology and hence the present subject requires a thorough techno-legal-experimental attitude and flair to solve various legal issues or problems.

     

    WHAT KIND OF WORK DO CYBER LAWYERS DO?

    The areas of works are limitless and also unexplored till date. A cyber lawyer can fight the cyber crime related cases (be in defence side or as prosecutor, in prosecution side). Actually specking every modern day lawyer should have a fare bit of understanding on cyber related matters. Even in civil suit, namely matrimonial suits, etc., the litigants are coming with Facebook pages or other various types of electronic evidences. The application of electronic documents in every spheres of legal world is now inevitable.

     

    ARE THERE DIFFERENT KINDS OF CYBER LAWYERS WHO DO DIFFERENT KIND OF WORK LIKE THERE ARE DEAL LAWYERS WHO SPECIALISE IN DIFFERENT KIND OF DEALS?

    Cyber lawyers can practise in various civil as well as in criminal cases. Cyber lawyers can also give advice to the lawyers in various fields and can also share their knowledge with various LEA, academies etc. The prospect is growing everyday.

     

    IS A CAREER IN CYBER LAW VIABLE? WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITY IS THERE FOR YOUNG LAWYERS IN CYBER LAW?

    I have already discussed that present day lawyers can not proceed with their jobs without a fair bit of knowledge in this techno-legal field. The next generation legal fields require huge number of cyber-lawyers who will assist the judicial system in various ways in Courts apart from various in house legal jobs.

     

    HOW DID YOU MAKE A CAREER IN CYBER LAW?

    Being a first generation practitioner, when I started my career, I started with telecom industries. In the year 2002 I was engaged as a lawyer in a very famous telecom company in West Bengal and lateran one by one other telecom companies engaged me as their lawyer. In the year 2008 I have dealt with one of the first case of cyber corporate espionage between two very famous telecom company and later in the year 2010, I single-handedly dealt with one of the famous defacement case of a world renowned telecom company, spreading entire India, on behalf of the company. It was one of the first and biggest success in cyber crime related cases in the eastern India. Then onwards, I simply fall in love with this subject and it has become rather passion than to only profession. That time I could foresee the potential of this subject and since 2012, I have been engaged with all the various prestigious academies in India, I used to speak in those classes or seminars, that the future lies in the digital/electronic cases. I love to see that what I have thought and predicted years before, has actually proved to be truth. Though I was from the science background but not from information technology background, I have to upgrade and update myself to the present day changes in this filed. Actually technology moves mush faster than law or legislative changes or amendments. Even today, everyday I have to learn new changes taking place in this world.

     

    WHAT WERE THE FIVE BIGGEST CHALLENGES YOU FACED ALONG THE WAY? HOW DID YOU OVERCOME THEM?

    From day one I have faced various challenges in this field and I have to make over them in various ways. The following will make things clear:

    • In the yearly days, dealing with only cyber laws would not suffice for my living and I had to do other conventional cases along with the same to sustain my family. It was very tough and struggling period.
    • The law-enforcement machineries in the beginning was not ready, which they are now, to welcome the changes in the legal and other related fields. In various cases, there was lacuna in investigation for want of sufficient knowledge to collect, preserve and present digital/electronic evidences. For the last five years or so, I have trained more than thousands law enforcement officers in India, written books on how to solve and investigate various types of cases so that the evidence can be presented before the Learned Court.
    • The application of E-evidence in the existing conventional fields, like paper-oriented court system, was and still is a challenge. To make things uncomplicated, I have started to file written argument in details highlighting the recent development in these fields. I have been taking various classes covering the entire area/domain for learned judicial officers and public prosecutors.
    • To make things easier I have also written various books covering various areas of this techno-legal field. I have my blog/page under Facebook under title, “Cyber Crime Awareness Campaign”, through which time to time I post and share various articles, so that people specially the legal friends get help.
    • Finally, as I am the only Special Public Prosecutor in cyber-crime and electronic evidence related cases in Bengal today, I have very hectic schedule in everyday life and I have to continue my study in various related fields, which I have to do in my way to various Ld Courts sitting in vehicles through mobile or laptop. Everyday I have to work 16 to 18 hours to keep up with my hectic schedule.

     

    WHAT COURSES, BOOKS WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR A LAW STUDENT LOOKING TO SPECIALISE IN CYBER LAW?

    There are lot of books but students have to go through the contents and look into books which contain the practical-approach-oriented materials before purchasing. The best way to learn is to look into the various resources available in the internet but they should verify them and if possible cross-check with other resources. The student should have interest in technology, specially software development. I love to code everyday in my favourite languages like python, javascript etc.

     

    IS IT IMPORTANT TO GET A DEGREE OR DIPLOMA IN CYBER LAW?

    In my opinion there is no need to get a degree or diploma, rather a law degree is enough. The online certifications on various new fields are more useful than any diploma. The fundamental concept matters most.

     

    HOW DO YOU KEEP YOURSELF UPDATED GIVEN THAT CYBER AND TECHNOLOGY LAW IS AN ALWAYS EVOLVING FIELD?

    It is an ever-changing world. The platform or technology in buzz today may be obsolete tomorrow. I am sure the knowledge, which I acquire today after a lot of arduous efforts, is of no use tomorrow. Technology moves much faster than legal amendments. Everyday I dedicate at least three to four hours to study technology and sometimes I felt frustrated that my study-hours cover more technology study than law. I think law is more interpretation than only the statues and hence for those areas I need to allocate times to study. I have to allocate more time on real life problem-solving issues, like how the security breaches occur, the technique of hacking, the data-breaches etc.

     

    WHAT BLOGS, JOURNALS OR WEBSITES DO YOU FOLLOW?

    Various online website / blog of USA, Canada and European Union etc. dealing with this techno-legal world.

    I have mentioned details of the url/links in my books, students can follow those links.

    Study through you tube or Google article related to this field.

     

    IF I AM INTERESTED IN CYBER LAW, WHOM SHOULD I FOLLOW ON TWITTER AND LINKEDIN IN YOUR OPINION?

    You go through works of various persons and can follow one you think credible. You can follow me at:

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/bivaschatterjee/

    bivas.chatterjee@gmail.com

    https://twitter.com/cybercrimemanua

    https://www.facebook.com/bivas.chatterjee.5

    https://www.facebook.com/awarenesstocyber/

     

    WHAT ARE THE TOP FIVE SKILLS TO DEVELOP IF I WANT TO BE A GOOD CYBER LAWYER?

    The following top 5 skills are desirable from a cyber lawyer:

    • Tenacity and eagerness to learn new things everyday, specially new development in this field.
    • A little bit thorough knowledge of computer system specially hardware details of computer, mobile, IOT devices etc.
    • A little bit thorough knowledge of operating software, other computer software especially in depth knowledge of at least the grammar of a single computer language i.e knowledge of coding.
    • A little bit thorough knowledge of networking system specially web-development, network protocols, various frameworks and at least one server-side and one client-side language, namely php, javascript, nodejs etc.
    • A little bit thorough knowledge of cyber and electronic evidence related laws in India and beyond India, various case studies, case laws related to that.

     

    WHO ACCORDING TO YOU ARE THE BIGGEST INFLUENCERS IN CYBER LAW IN 2018?

    There are various stake-holders who have the biggest influences in cyber laws and some of them are as follows:

    •  Law enforcement agencies that can ethically hack and solve the cyber crime related cases.
    • Intermediaries i.e. various online service providers as defined in section 2(w) of Information Technology Act,2000, as amended.
    • Technical experts who have thorough knowledge on the ins and out of a system.
    • Banking sector companies, online wallets companies etc. who provide online money transactions platforms.
    • NGOs working in this field(though the number is meagre), public prosecutors, lawyers and judges.

    UNDERSTANDING CYBER LAW – DOES IT ALSO REQUIRE A DETAILED UNDERSTANDING OF TECHNOLOGY?

    The obvious answer is yes. If practising lawyers does not know the practical details of ins and outs of the technology, how can he find the actual problem and provide solution which is admissible and acceptable by Ld. Courts and society at larger.

     

    SHOULD ENGINEERS AND CYBER SECURITY EXPERTS LEARN CYBER LAW? HOW CAN IT POSSIBLY HELP THEM?

    If a fire-tender does not know how to deal with fire, how can he make himself safe from being burnt and more so how can he make other safe. For example, person dealing with private, secure, sensitive data or electronic systems may at any point of time implicate himself or herself in unnecessary legal binding / litigation. (Say for example after the GDPR, in European Union, huge compliances are required, otherwise stringent actions may follow). In every sphere, the knowledge of cyber laws around the world is a prerequisite for engineers and cyber expert and the knowledge will provide a safety-valve to them.

     

    WHAT IS THE EARNING POTENTIAL OF A SUCCESSFUL CYBER LAWYER?

    Earning potential as a profession cyber lawyer is good in my opinion. The number of Cyber lawyers are numbered and crimes and contraventions are on increase in virtual world.

     

    IS IT BETTER TO PRACTICE INDEPENDENTLY OR TO WORK WITH A LAW FIRM OR COMPANY?

    It depends on person to person. But for the newly-started professionals, it is better to have one guide, though being the pioneer in this field, I never felt the urge to have someone. If someone has the highest level of passion, zeal, dedication, honesty and integrity, he or she will surely succeed.

     

    HOW DOES ONE GET STARTED IN CYBER LAW PRACTICE?

    In my opinion to start in legal professional, one should not be very choosy, and in the early stages he or she should do or put his head into various issues and as the cyber-law related issues are everywhere, one who wants to pursue the career in cyber law can start only specialisation work after at least 5 years of his or her practice years.

     

    DO YOU THINK INDIAN CYBER LAW REGIME NEEDS AN UPGRADE? WHAT ARE THE AREAS THAT NEED ATTENTION OF LAWMAKERS?

    After the amendment has been made by way of Information Technology Amendment Act, 2008, some of the famous judgements been pronounced, and lot of technological changes took place, especially in arena of Data-science, cloud-computing, Artificial Intelligence and its predictive algorithm, Blockchain etc., Indian Cyber laws should require upgradation. The following areas need attention:

    • Getting evidences from the intermediaries, especially from WhatsApp and other Instant messenger services.
    • Appointment of Examiners of Electronic evidence.
    • Laws relating to forensics evidences, especially incorporating chain of evidence in Indian law.
    • Details of laws clarifying the process of collection, preservation and presentation of electronic evidence.
    • Clarifying the status of the cyber security personnel and IT- security audit or ethical hacking.
    • Strong data-protecting laws (We already got the Personal Data Privacy Law Bill, 2018)
    • Changes in procedural laws in cyber crime investigation,
    • Laws dealing in details on Child pornography and Online-Trafficking.
    • Laws relating internet of things (now Internet of Everything)
    • Laws related to CCTV footage, etc

     

    WHAT ARE THE MOST PROMISING AREAS OF WORK WITHIN CYBER LAW IN THE NEXT DECADE?

    The most promising areas are:

    • Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning and Deep Learning.
    • Cloud-computing
    • internet of things (now Internet of Everything)
    • Data privacy and security, specially big data, data-analytics and predictive and destructive logarithm.
    • Blockchain and crypto-currencies.
    • Dealing with digital/electronic evidence in non conventional and conventional fields.

     

    DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR LAWYERS TO SUPER SPECIALISE WITHIN THE DOMAIN OF CYBER LAW?

    If any lawyer wants to specialise in cyber law arena, specialising within the domain is obviously required, specially regular and intensive study in technology and exploring its new areas is a must. Dedicated and passionate effort is a prerequisite in this domain.

     

     

  • Iram Majid, Advocate, Supreme Court of India, on career in arbitration and mediation and future of ADR in India

    Iram Majid, Advocate, Supreme Court of India, on career in arbitration and mediation and future of ADR in India

    Iram Majid is a lawyer, arbitrator, and mediator. She has more than 15 years of experience  in handling wide range of criminal, matrimonial, civil, commercial, banking and finance matters cases in the court as Advocate and outside the court as Mediator. She is also on the panel lawyer for Delhi Jal Board and DSIDC in Delhi High Court. She is a also qualified mediator, enlisted on the panel of Delhi High Court Mediation Centre. She is also the Regional Director of BIMS Bangladesh International Mediation society in India.

    Iram graduated from Aligarh Muslim University. She then went on to pursue her LL.M from Kurukshetra University, Kurukshetra.

    In this interview we speak to her about:

    • Being a successful arbitrator and meditator
    • Skills required to become an arbitrator and a meditator
    • Importance of extra circular activities in law student’s life
    • Significance of moots and their preparation

     

    HOW WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO OUR READERS? DO YOU COME FROM A FAMILY OF LAWYERS?

    Every time I am to introduce myself I am thinking how to articulate and craft my self in words. Over the years I have struggled to take challenges towards achieving my goals. My strengths are my attitude that like to take challenges that I CAN do it , my way of thinking that I take both success and failure in a balanced manner.

    I am a practicing lawyer, Arbitrator and Mediator. I am on the panel of Delhi Jal Board, DSIDC, Delhi high court Legal services and mediator in Delhi High Court. I am first generation lawyer. I pursued BA, LL.B degree and thereafter LLM. My father is a service middle class bread earner at Aligarh, It is said that “Behind every successful man there is a women” but I my case there are two men behind my success “ my father “and my “husband” My strengths have driven me to meet unexpected challenges. I believe in myself and my hard work and I want perfection in everything.

     

    WHAT MOTIVATED YOU TO PURSUE LAW?

    I never wanted to be a lawyer if it had not been my father who had identified my strengths. I wanted to pursue economics but my father has seen some qualities in me and asked me to pursue law. I was having the fear to lose my friend circle my childhood friends and my area of interest was economics and it was very difficult to get admission in economic but I got the same. Under the influence of my father I agreed to give the entrance for BA- LL.B. I opted for economics but my father insisted that I pursue law. The father daughter resistance began with me going on a hunger strike and my father did not ask me for food. It’s after 2 days I agreed to what my father asked for and took admission in law and their came the change. My clinched to help people for which law provided me the necessary background and degree to reach out to people who need help and make a positive impact on a daily basis using my analytical skills.

     

    HOW WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE AT LAW SCHOOL? DID YOU PURSUE ANY EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES SUCH AS MOOTS, DEBATES, SPORTS ETC.? HOW DID THIS CONTRIBUTE TO YOUR HOLISTIC DEVELOPMENT? DO YOU THINK SUCH ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE MADE COMPULSORY FOR STUDENTS?

    So the story   after getting the admission in law is that , from the very first week I found law classes interesting. It was 1998 when it seemed to me that I had just about everything one could wish for a comfortable house, a career to pursue and a good family. I think it was my lack of understanding of law that could not comprehend what my father saw. After that day of revelation, my father gave way to feelings of sympathy. I no longer saw law as a burden but as a struggle for my ambition. But it wasn’t long before another feeling began to weigh heavily on my mind—fear. I feared that my life might be wasted too, that I would feel empty if I failed to do something meaningful. That fear and sense of urgency drove me to search for a meaning in my own life, being a merit scholarship holder and a presidential awardee. I saw that a lot of students participated in moot courts, activities such as political debates and volunteering to change society. It was something that I had already interest in and a direction was all I needed, where everyone is expected to “fit in” and conform to social norms. My participation in debate competition, symposium, self-composed poetry and on the academic side it was ADR and personal laws which were admired by the students and the faculty. My passion started to take a turn towards a direction that I had longed to be a part of. After all, to me, it seemed to be doing something meaningful. Nonetheless, I spent the first two years of college studying merely to meet people’s strong expectations for me to be successful. During those two years, I managed to get good grades and took advantage of internship opportunities, but never found joy or excitement in my studies. Instead, I was often visited by the fear that I was walking the same path that my father wanted me to walk. It was only, when I came across classes titled ADR and Personal family laws, which cared for Contemporary Moral Problems and Global Justice, that I finally found direction in my search for meaning in my life. In those classes, we read and discussed fascinating topics, such as which ethical principles we might use to redistribute the wealth of the globe, or how we could stop potential genocides and ethnic cleansing. It was a surprising and strange experience to observe myself changing. When I found myself fervently arguing for one method of global distribution over the other, and voluntarily visiting a professor’s office pursuing further questions, I wondered: “Where has this passion been hiding? What have I been doing all these years?” Studying law has guided me to find my own answer to the question, “What is a meaningful life?” I have realised that I am thirsty for intellectually stimulating experiences, and that I truly enjoy exploring possibilities for making positive changes in people’s lives. I have also realised, more importantly, that there is lots of work to be done in the world—work that sometimes involves facing the dark side of reality, but that somebody has to step up and do. When I read articles in newspapers about horrific living conditions “women” going through legal battles, I read them from a different perspective now. Instead of simply expressing pity, I look at the situations critically and think about what it would take to solve those issues. The fact that I have a genuine understanding of the social conditions, which convinces me that I can contribute to solving these problems more than others. I want to be able to produce tangible influences through my work, witness how these influences cause progress in people’s lives, and find meaning in my life through experiences. Ideas alone cannot achieve this. But with the law, it is possible. I see the law as a powerful framework through which ideas can be manifested and applied in the real world to address different problems utilising the practical power of the law. It is physically tiring, repetitive work, but am happy.

     

    WHAT WERE YOUR AREAS OF INTEREST IN LAW SCHOOL? HOW DID YOU CULTIVATE AND PURSUE SUCH INTERESTS?

    So What Else were my areas of interest in a law school and how did I cultivate and pursue them. Being good student, I was good in all the subjects and secured distinction in all the subject but my field of interest were ADR and personal laws. When I was exposed to the society and learned from people that they are upset with the judicial system and have no faith in judiciary as there is saying “justice delayed justice denied “.

    Networking and informational gathering was so effective for me that I started to spend time attending the workshops and read publications.

    I saw myself as a creative and non-confrontational person, doing work I loved. This is because the legal community is finally acknowledging a fact that many lawyers have known for some time—that we do not all want to be like Perry Mason. Although there are many lawyers quite satisfied with their choice of profession and I was not at all a law school student yearning to appear in court, work for a big firm, handle large or complex cases, spend the majority of working hours in offices, or even earn top money. Instead, I shelved my course and carved it as an opportunity to explore and pursue ADR and personal family laws with alternative options, both in and outside of the law. I took to further examine quality-of-life and work-style issues. I wanted to create work for myself the one that even if I did not love but took me closer to my goal or at least the work that I felt good about.

    My love for the law got me into its theoretical and practical application often. I found contentment working in research and writing for legal book publishers, research services, or even for law firms.

    I acquired Legal training which became very beneficial in the development of useful, transferable skills that are much in demand. Both legal education and legal work provided excellent training in analytical thinking, communication, writing, and persuasiveness—skills that I am using in many endeavours.

    The previously mentioned my abilities in poetry, writing, editing, interviewing, organising information, researching, and giving attention to detail eventually moved into a full-time position as my writings started to get published for reading.

    I judged moot courts in India and Hong kong as well I enjoyed confrontation and posturing necessary when judging and learnt the science of ombudsman now also popularly known as Mediation.

    My values motivated me and I easily focused on fields that permitted the full use of my skills, integration of values important to me and satisfaction of my interests.

    I identified several trade associations and newsletters available at most public libraries. Joined associations that were in my area of interest in order to meet people working in the prospective field. Professional publications, including those produced by bar association sections, provided insights into new practice areas or new fields. Bar section meetings and conventions created excellent opportunities to meet people who work in one of your targeted fields and provided a reality check for me.

    These people were useful to me for inside information on the realities of working in that field as well as leads.

    My choices were not limited by preference, imagination, and ambition due to which I started to achieve positive results in Counselling.

     

    HOW IMPORTANT DO YOU THINK MOOTING IS IN SHAPING ONE’S FUTURE CAREER IN LAW?

    Looking back at law school, It’s the mind-set that has a role play Instead. It’s a trial run for your future career. I Embraced it and got involved. I developed a great arsenal of skills that helped me at entering the future career.

    The best piece of suggestion I can give any law student is to really get involved in law school by joining organisations like moot courts and journals, doing pro-bono work, or participating in a clinic (or all of the above), which become important skills that lawyers use every day.

    Moot courts get you involved, the more important is managing your time. Imagine the time management skills you can develop if you are carrying a full course load and conducting a brief for Moot Court, and writing a note for your journal. But image how good at time management you will be by the time you graduate from law school. Then, when you start your career, and one partner is asking for a memo, another is asking you to review thousands of documents, and a third is asking you to write sections of a brief all at the same time, you will already know how to manage your time and get your work done.

    The work through Moot Court, an externship, or a clinic is not like taking an extra class throughout the semester. You will not be sitting in class learning a legal theory on what lawyers do on a day-to-day basis. You will be developing first-hand legal skills like research and writing or getting up on your feet and arguing – real-life lawyer skills. And then, when you are given your first research assignment, at your first job out of law school, you will be really prepared to dive right into the assignment because you already have those skills down pat.

    And then do not forget about all the people you will come in contact with by getting involved – all the other law students on the journal, your clinic manager, your externship supervisor, etc. All of those people become part of your network. Networking is about building contacts across the legal industry – a very valuable skill that you can begin developing right now with moot courts. Say “yes” to moot assignments you might not want to do. Once you start working on moot courts and you say “yes,” and continue to say “yes,” you will open yourself up to bigger and better opportunities. And learning to say “yes” begins in law school.

    I know that all of this is something you have probably heard a million times since law school orientation, but take it from me – these skills are so valuable to have. I truly believe that a lot of my success in my career comes from the skills I learned while I was in law school. For example, in my externship, I learned great research and writing skills because part of my position involved constantly drafting motions. In Moot Court, I learned how to think on my feet, and in my pro-bono work, I learned how to address a judge. All of these skills have made me into the lawyer I am today and have helped shape my career.

     

    HOW DID YOU LAND YOUR FIRST JOB? WHAT WAS THE NATURE OF YOUR WORK THERE? CAN YOU RECALL THE FIRST TIME YOU ARGUED A SIGNIFICANT MATTER? CAN YOU RECALL ANY MEMORABLE EXPERIENCES AS A FRESH YOUNG LAWYER IN THE LITIGATION PRACTICE?

    I came from Aligarh after completing my law BA.LL.B. On the recommendation of one of my senior of law faculty, I joined the law Chambers Ms Zubeda Begum, Delhi High court. The start of my career was in the hands of a learned and dynamic counsel. I learnt a lot from her not only in legal knowledge but other social aspects as well. She was additional standing counsel for Delhi Government at that time, so being in her office I got a chance to handle variety of matters and exposed to new world. I worked very hard and started arguing matters in court. I still remember when I went in court for a Passover in very high-stake civil appeal matter before Justice Dalvir Bhandari and Justice DK Jain, I was scared to appear and asking for a Passover, the court could call upon me to argue in return. It happened so and I was called upon when I said ‘My lords …”I’m a junior and I am instructed to take passover only”, but court asked me to argue the matter then I thought opportunities may come anytime and I took that as an opportunity and then I read from the file and argued and got the appeal admitted. That was the day when I was very happy but I was unaware that there are many more to come.

    My most unforgettable moment was when had only three years in practice and with my hard work, I got an appointment as sole Arbitrator, that day was a happiest day in my career and my happiness had no bounds. I came to know that my hard work is getting recognition. That was not the last but the beginning thereafter I started getting assignment from the courts like appointment as local commissioner and Arbitrator. I still remember that when in courts judges started calling me by my name that used to be   a proud moment for me as I’m started creating place for myself and started recognition as Iram Majid.  Every job and in this case law chambers and employer/seniors is different but typically it means any experience that is relevant. job working experience is more important for examples because a full-time job is trackable and confirmable as well as usually relevant if the job is similar or in the same field. The word “professional” comes to mind.

    DO YOU THINK THAT METHODS OF ALTERNATE DISPUTE RESOLUTION SUCH AS ARBITRATION ARE THE FUTURE OF DISPUTE RESOLUTION IN INDIA?

    Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) is a substitute to the conventional method of resolving disputes including civil, commercial, industrial and family etc. ADR uses neutral third party who helps the parties to communicate, discuss the differences and resolve the dispute. The Advantages of Alternative Dispute Resolution are manifold as its less time consuming ,cost effective ,informal party centred and party autonomous Its promotes co-operation, social order and reduces hostility..

    As 3.3 crores cases are pending in Indian courts in that case alternative dispute resolution will be the future .Importance of ADR in India is to deal with the situation of pendency of cases in courts of India, ADR is expected to play a significant role in India with its scientifically developed techniques. ADR provides various modes of settlement including, arbitration, conciliation, mediation, negotiation and lok Adalat. ADR’s roots stem from the Constitution of India. Arbitration is one of the modes of ADR. The most significant development in future will be emerging divide between procedures for resolving low value and high value. Institutional Arbitration will deal with large sized dispute. The institution will do new form of automation especially version of online dispute resolution (ODR)

    It is evident that arbitration has evolved over the years as the ideal tool for resolution of disputes that saves the courts time and largely instrumental in assisting the parties to resort to quick remedial measures. Every arbitration is based on insightful application of law and its evolution is proof of its significance in the actual proceedings. Thus, arbitration has emerged as the most preferred platform for quick resolution of disputes especially in the industrial and corporate realm.

    So, arbitration is not the alternative dispute resolution but according to me this should be the “Appropriate Dispute Resolution” because its party autonomous and party centred.

     

    TELL US WHAT GOT YOU INTO TRAINING LAWYERS AND LAW STUDENTS ABOUT MEDIATION IN THE FIRST PLACE.

    Some of the most successful people in the world mediate. I did my mediation training from Pepperdine university USA , I did Negotiation and Conflict Management Skill Certification from ADR ODR Dubi and IIAM kochi and with Delhi High Court Mediation Centre. I am faculty trainer in Bangladesh International Mediation society. Success has its attributes to the practice of meditation and that is why I got into training lawyers and law students about mediation. Moreover, I am not taking mediation as my part time profession what mostly lawyers do but mediation is my passion and that passion is the driven force to push me into training and this is the only way we can spread mediation awareness among the community and moreover for getting more people into mediation we need these kind of training programmes as well as orientation programmes.

    Mediation practice that has a long history in India. Lord Krishna, Guru Nanak Dev ji, Kalidas, Kabir and Mahatma Gandhi the list goes on. Its now developed into a science with time. Mediation the students can use in order to excel in their lives ordinarily.

     

    WHAT IS THE SKILL SET REQUIRED TO BECOME AN ARBITRATOR AND A MEDIATOR?

    Arbitration is probably the best-known form of alternative dispute resolution, and is a formal, binding process where the dispute is resolved by the decision of a nominated third party, the arbitrator. Becoming a Chartered Arbitrator is a rigorous process, involving a number of stages. In the UK, the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators trains and accredits practitioners. Skills/knowledge needed Arbitrators need to have knowledge of the laws of contract, tort and evidence and understand and be able to use the applicable procedural law one must be able to evaluate the arguments and evidence which seemingly supports conflicting points of view .

    Where disputes revolve around issues of law, lawyers often make the best arbitrators. However, where the dispute revolves around issues of fact, the parties may prefer to have an arbitrator who is skilled in the particular sector involved.

    As far as mediation is concern, mediation as ‘an attempt to bring about a peaceful settlement or compromise between disputants through a neutral party . A mediator is a trained, neutral third party who uses their skills to bring two sides in a dispute to a resolution, without resorting to litigation. Mediation is a science and an art. Although many mediation skills may be taught, the development of a skilled mediator requires experience in dealing with people in all conditions and under all circumstances. Although there are many intangibles in the definition of a “good” mediator, certain character traits are invaluable like facilitator, Active listener ,neutral, impartial . Since mediation is still a relatively new field, there are no statutory qualifications required to mediate at present. However, in order to gain work as a mediator, it would be necessary to have some form of accreditation from a body . Mediators are sometimes qualified solicitors or barristers but also come from a variety of backgrounds other than law such as architecture, human resources, counselling, social work, banking and accountancy. Some mediation is undertaken as voluntary work.

    Parties involved in a dispute requiring expertise in a specific area (such as construction) may decide that it is preferable to have a mediator with expert knowledge of that area, rather than a mediator with a legal background.

    INTERNATIONAL ARBITRATION OFTEN INVOLVES A COMPLEX INTERPLAY OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INTERNATIONAL LAW. CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THIS ASPECT FOR OUR READERS?

    The importance is to have a positive approach to international commercial arbitration as a dispute resolution process. I find there is anxiety in the mind of the users of international arbitration where their investments are at stake. There is a need to ensure that commercial disputes would be resolved by specialists, in a neutral forum. The costs are to be kept low with efficiency in procedures and disposal. International commercial arbitration system promotes international trade and investment by reducing the risk that potential commercial disputes that are determined by opposite party’s home courts. It’s this complex interplay of the laws that International Arbitration can eliminate by using the arm of public and private international laws. In the national law when ever and where ever required; with the will of the parties and rules of non-national institutions and international treaties and guidelines control the process. International arbitration is a mixture of public comparative law and private international law.

    The landmarks which helped in development of the modern law and the practise of international commercial arbitration are:

    “The Geneva Protocol of 1923 (the 1923 Geneva Protocol)

    The Geneva Convention of 1927 (the 1927 Geneva Convention).

    The New York Convention of 1958 (the New York Convention).

    The UNCITRAL Arbitration Rules (the UNCITRAL Rules) adopted by resolution of the General Assembly of the United Nations in December 1976.

    The UNCITRAL Model Law (the Model Law) adopted by the United Nations Commission on International Trade Law in June 1985.

    Revisions to the Model Law (the Revised Model Law) adopted in December 2006.

    The major institutions are

    International chamber of Commerce (ICC) Paris,

    American Arbitration Association (AAA), New York,

    London Court of International Arbitration (LCIA) London

    Swiss Arbitration Association (ASA)

    Kuala Lumpur Regional centre for Arbitration (KLRCA)

    The steady growth of international trade across the globe will definitely require ad hoc or international arbitration to have proper training for the arbitrators and counsel who conduct it both in the public and the private domain. The counsel to the arbitration proceedings needs to be chosen who specialise in international arbitration and have sound knowledge of the subject matter of the dispute and a person who can cater to the needs of the party with some regional and local law knowledge.

    YOU ARE A MEMBER OF ALL MAJOR ARBITRATION INSTITUTIONS. WHAT IS YOUR PREFERRED FORUM?

    I am a member of CIArb UK, (YSIAC), ICC YAF, Dubai International Arbitration Centre, AIAC Kualalampur and so on I am doing arbitration in Delhi High Court Arbitration Centre as well .  My preferred forum for Arbitration is Institutional Arbitrations and it is so because of the growth of the economy, trade and commerce. With diverse economy, investment into the Indian market by the foreign investors is the reason for institutional arbitration.

    Prestigious institutional arbitration association like the London Court of International Arbitration, The Permanent Court of Arbitration and the International Chamber of Commerce have opened Centres in India. It’s a positive sign because these institutes are very well-known and prestigious and wouldn’t have opened Centres in India if they did not see a potential growth in Institutional arbitration. Apart this CIArb not only gives accreditation but also trained in arbitration it is world wide renowned body.

    For youngster the forums like ICC , SIAC, CIArb provides the platform to learn and help in career development . As per new bill only accreditation will be mandatory to become an Arbitrator. If you wish to choose Arbitration as a career than please try to get associated with any forum and try to get accreditation with esteemed organisation as in coming days it will be mandatory. So, this is the right time to wake up and act without any delay.

    DO SOMETHING TODAY THAT YOUR FUTURE SELF THANK YOU FOR

     

    HOW DO YOU REMAIN UPDATED WITH ALL THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FIELD OF INTERNATIONAL ARBITRATION AND MEDIATION?

    åI have identified several trade associations and newsletters of different institutions and societies. Joined associations that are in my area of interest in order to meet people working in the prospective field. Professional publications, including those produced by bar association sections s that I can get insights into new practice areas or new fields. Bar section meetings and conventions and workshops also are a creation of source and an excellent opportunity to meet people who work in one of your targeted fields and provide a reality check for me.

    Additionally, by joining organisations like moot courts and journals, doing pro-bono work, and participating in a clinic authored by the respective Bar Associations and Legal Societies. I am also on the editorial board of one of the most widely circulated e magazine of ADR in India i.e IIAM e – magazine that I think also a great help to get oneself updated.

     

     

    WHAT ADVICE DO YOU HAVE FOR OUR READERS WHO ARE PRIMARILY COLLEGE STUDENTS?

    BE FAITHFUL TO THAT WHICH EXIST WITHIN YOURSELF. The best piece of suggestion I can give any law student is to really get involved in law school by joining organisations like moot courts and journals, doing pro-bono work, or participating in a clinic (or all of the above), which become important skills that lawyers use every day.

    Work through Moot Court and develop first-hand legal skills like research and writing or getting up on your feet and arguing – real-life lawyer skills. Be really prepared to dive right into the assignment. Become part of a network as it helps building contacts across the legal industry. Say “yes” to moot assignments and learning to say “yes” begins in law school.

    KNOWING YOURSELF IS THE BEGINNING OF ALL WISDOM

    Apart this I want to give a piece of advice for healthy ad self-esteemed life because   most often when we people discuss success they do so in terms of careers. I encourage you to also   pay attention to a different kinds of success as well _ success in life , when we are young we do not quite see the distinction in between career success and success in life but the difference is significant and to achieve ultimate happiness one have to understand , it’s not like we cannot achieve both but we have to consider them both and be the successful person in your own version. Perseverance is definitely the key to success. Every once in a while, you will fail, and most of the time, the circumstances will be beyond your control. The key to overcoming this; is this DO NOT let your failures keep you down. compose yourself, dust the dirt off, take a deep breath and get back up on life saddle and keep going. failures are part of life if you don’t fail, you don’t learn. If   you don’t learn, you will never change. The world doesn’t care how many times you fall down, as long as it’s one fewer than the number of times you get back. so,

    • Know yourself
    • Understand what makes you feel great
    • Recognise things that get you down
    • Set goals to achieve what you want
    • Don’t afraid to ask for help
    • Stand up for your belief & values
    • Help someone
    • Take responsibility of your action
    • Be confident.

    So , act like there is no tomorrow because if you taking your goal for granted or then probably you will be too late

     

  • Satvik Varma, Litigation Counsel, on establishing Independent practice, studying LLM from Harvard Law School, and authoring a book

    Satvik Varma, Litigation Counsel, on establishing Independent practice, studying LLM from Harvard Law School, and authoring a book

    Satvik Varma is a Litigation Counsel and Corporate Attorney. Prior to setting up his private practice, Satvik was a partner at India’s premier law firm, (undivided) Amarchand Mangaldas and also served as the Vice-President and Counsel in the corporate law group at Lehman Brothers (2003-2005) headquarter in New York. Satvik started his career as a litigator (1998-2001) at the Supreme Court of India and the High Court of Delhi. While practicing in Courts, Satvik had the opportunity to participate in and argue various constitutional laws, insurance and family law related cases.

    Satvik holds a Bachelor of Arts (with Honours) in History and a Bachelor in Law (LL.B.) from the University of Delhi. He earned a Master of Law (LL.M.) from Harvard Law School, where he was a part of the South Asian Lawyers Association. He is dual qualified and licensed to practice in both India (1998) and the State of New York (2003).

    Satvik is a frequent speaker at various panels, seminars and workshops and is often featured on television debates for his views on legal matters. He writes regularly on corporate governance, legislative matters, economic and trade policy and current legal affairs for most of India’s leading business newspapers, magazines, and journals.

    In November 2017, Satvik released an anthology of his essay’s titled “Yes, I’m Opinionated” – “Musings of a Lawyer on Governance, Law and Policy” published by Lexis Nexis. The book has received advance praise from sitting judges of the Supreme Court of India and the Delhi High Court and leading Senior Counsel in India. 

    Satvik has a keen interest in global and regional affairs and serves on the advisory board of the Asia Society India Centre, a United States not-for-profit. He has been selected from amongst many as an Asia 21 Young Leader, where he actively engages with others from the Asia-Pacific to discuss issues of common interest to the region. He is also a member of the Young Indians, an initiative operating under the aegis of the Confederation of Indian Industry (CII), to help motivate the youth to shape the economic and social agenda of India. Recently, he was selected from a very large and diverse group of candidates as an Aspen India Leadership Fellow and is cohort of the Aspen Global Leadership Network.

    In this interview we speak to him about:

    • Challenges of setting up his independent firm
    • Experience of studying at Harvard Law School
    • Importance of Internship
    • Being a prolific writer and authoring several articles and now a book
    • Maintaining a work life balance

     

     

    HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO OUR READERS? PLEASE SHARE YOUR ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL BACKGROUND

    I am a litigation counsel and corporate attorney based in New Delhi. My practice focusses mainly on corporate commercial litigations, shareholder and company disputes, breach of contract and specific performance disputes, competition law and telecom/satellite law related litigation and domestic and international arbitrations.

    I also regularly contribute to most leading Indian newspapers on topics related to law. Recently, I released a book- “Yes, I’m Opinionated” – Musings of a lawyer on Governance, Law & Policy. I am addicted to current affairs and a keen observer of politics.

    I graduated from Campus Law Centre, Delhi University in 1998 and immediately joined the chambers of Mr. Kailash Vasdev (currently Senior Advocate). In fact, I had been associated with Mr. Vasdev’s chambers for some time and had worked there through most of my LL.B. days. While at Mr. Vasdev’s chambers, I would often share notes with my brother who was working in the financial sector in London and would hear about M&A and Joint Ventures and Securities, all of which were topics I knew nothing about. So in 2001, I decided to make the transition from Litigation to Corporate law and joined, for a very brief period, Dua Associates in their Corporate Transactions/M&A team. Prior to joining Dua, I had already applied for an LL.M. overseas and went on to pursue my Master in Laws at Harvard Law School, graduating as the Class of 2002 or what was then termed as the 9/11 Class. This was because in the “normal” preceding years, of the 150 students that graduate HLS, well over a 100 students would get a job upon graduating. But in our batch only around 8 students got placements, in what was termed as the “foreign lawyers program”, for a brief stint in the States followed by them returning to their home country to work with the same firm. Regardless of not having secured employment I decided to write the New York State Bar Exam which, admittedly, was one of the most gruelling experiences of my life. Like most students, one enrolled for the BARBRI classes, which lasted through the day and then there was homework to be completed before the next day. On an average, preparing for the Bar was a 16-18 hour day and one was often reminded of the low pass percentage for first time takers. I was fortunate and blessed to have passed the Bar in the first attempt, but still didn’t have a job. In fact, in 2002, there were very few entry level positions available in New York and I didn’t even manage to secure a single interview in over seven months. I was adamant to work and live in New York and hence I persisted. I still remember a particular time when I was called to an interview and spent the day with the recruiter distributing flyers for an attorney who was contesting for a Selectman’s post (equivalent to municipal councillor) and those were the first $40 I earned in America. Eventually, I got lucky when the legal head of TCS, who I had been introduced to by a dear friend and had kept in touch with through the Indo-American Lawyers Association, referred me for a temporary lawyers position at the investment bank of Lehman Brothers that had just signed up an outsourcing agreement with TCS and Wipro. Like most Wall Street positions, I went through five rounds of interviews (the first I had had since graduating HLS seven months prior) and was eventually hired as a temporary lawyer for an eight week assignment. I was lucky that five weeks into my assignment, I was confirmed in the position and given the title of Vice-President Corporate Law at Lehman Brothers. Asides from the title, I was delighted to have a huge office on Park Avenue in New York and went on to work for Lehman for a few years before eventually returning to India.

    Upon my return, my former partner from Dua Associates had just moved to Amarchand Mangaldas (undivided) and proposed I join his team. I was slightly undecided at what to do as it was my initial desire to start my own litigation practice but eventually decided to join Amarchand as a Senior Associate in the M&A & Private Equity team. I eventually rose from amongst the ranks at Amarchand and was announced as Partner in 2010, at which time I decided to start my own private litigation practice. Many people thought I was foolish to be giving up such a lucrative position and the comfort of being under the umbrella of India’s premier law firm. But I was exhilarated with my decision to return to litigation practice and being back in Courts was something that excited me.

    Since 2010, I have been developing my practice as an arguing counsel in Courts and Tribunals all across India focussing primarily on corporate- commercial disputes, and I have to say that I have loved each and every day since setting up my own law chambers.

     

    HAVE YOU ALWAYS BEEN INCLINED TO A CAREER IN LAW? ARE YOU A FIRST GENERATION LAWYER?

    I am actually a fourth generation lawyer with many in the legal profession both from my mother’s and father’s side of the family. In fact, my paternal grandfather was amongst the first lawyers from Bihar to have relocated to the Supreme Court and was, what was then called, an “agent” of the Supreme Court of India. He was one of the 23 agents present at the inauguration of the Supreme Court of India on 28.01.1950. But there was never any pressure on me to pursue a career in law especially since my older brothers first degree is in law, but he’s always worked in the investment banking and finance sector. Consequently, while my interest to pursue law has been influenced by my family background, the real inclination stems from my compelling desire to work amongst people, to help “resolve” matters and to play a role in helping shape policy and the legal landscape in India. Now, after being admitted for almost 21 years I can say without a doubt that practising law is not just my profession, it’s something I’m extremely passionate about, it excites me and its something I greatly enjoy doing.

     

    TELL US A BIT ABOUT YOUR TIME STUDYING LAW AS AN UNDERGRADUATE STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF DELHI

     Having earned an Honours degree at Hindu College I was very familiar with North Campus and, in many ways, Campus Law Centre was an extension of that joyful experience of being at Delhi University. We had some excellent professors at CLC but really the emphasis was on the discussions outside classrooms and the interaction amongst the students. During my time pursuing an LL.B. there was no requirement for internships, however I had started attending Mr. Vasdev’s chambers from my second year and was, hence, able to comprehend the practical application of what was being taught at Law Faculty.

     

    WHAT WERE YOU AREAS OF INTEREST DURING YOUR LEGAL EDUCATION? HOW DID YOU DECIDE THE FIELD OF LAW THAT YOU WANTED TO SPECIALISE IN CAREER-WISE?

     The late 1990’s were when the period of liberalisation really accelerated and one was seeing more and more international businesses set-up in India. One was were constantly reading about trade and investment policy developing in the country. As a consequence, at Law Faculty, I was drawn towards Law of Contracts, Law of Torts, Constitutional Law and Criminal Law. My initial many years were spent primarily at the Supreme Court of India and hence my interest in Constitutional Law grew. But ultimately, given my professional experience of having worked both as a litigator and a corporate lawyer, I developed a great interest for corporate-commercial laws. I find this area of law challenging, exciting and forever developing, remoulding itself to the changing economic scenario in the world. It’s also the field where I am able to make meaningful contributions having worked on both ends of the spectrum.

     

    INTERNSHIPS PROVIDE STUDENTS WITH THEIR FIRST EXPOSURE TO THE PRACTICAL ASPECTS OF THE LEGAL PROFESSION. COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THE INTERNSHIPS YOU TOOK UP, AND WHAT YOU LEARNT FROM THOSE EXPERIENCES?

     The curriculum at Law Faculty did not prescribe mandatory internship, hence one took up internships voluntarily. I had started working from my second year at Law Faculty, i.e. 1996, and one of my greatest takeaways from working at a chambers was the need for lawyers to have an attention for detail. In 1998, the Bar Council introduced the compulsory apprenticeship program for law graduates, which eventually got overturned. During that period I had the chance to hear senior members of the Bar present to the Constitution Bench and was fascinated by the practical examples which lawyers presented to juxtapose the law with its application. It has been my attempt to carry forward and apply both of these early experiences in everything I do.

     

    LAW GRADUATES ARE FACED WITH HAVING TO CHOOSE FROM SEVERAL CAREER OPTIONS AND THE CHOICE OF STUDYING FURTHER. WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE STUDENTS IN AVOIDING A DECISION PARALYSIS?

     Many of the choices available to law graduates today didn’t exist 20 years ago, but it’s absolutely fascinating to see these young lawyers opt for different career paths, where their law degree can be used. For example, I recently met a lawyer with just a few years of experience who had joined a think-tank to work on policy papers. This was not an option when I had graduated, but it’s a great development and also a testament of how the core skills acquired while studying law are transferable skills and can be utilised across a variety of professions.

    Law graduates need to be patient, and not jump the gun to hastily back-pedal from any decision they may have taken if they don’t seem immediate results. The legal profession is more like a cricket test match, with two innings, and not a T20 game where one need to score on every ball. Take a decision and stick by it because too many changes reflect badly on your resume.

     

    PLEASE SHARE WITH US YOUR LLM EXPERIENCE AT HARVARD LAW SCHOOL. HOW WOULD YOU SAY YOUR PRIOR EXPERIENCE AS AN ADVOCATE AIDED YOU IN YOUR MASTER’S DEGREE?

     My experience at Harvard and then working on Wall Street has in many ways shaped my professional discipline, my work ethic and lawyering skills. Most good law schools today require at least two to three years of work experience before they will even consider your application and I believe that prior work experience in many ways will prepare you for a fairly rigorous and intensive 1 year Master’s program.

    Personally, I strongly urge all young lawyers to pursue an LL.M. and explore ways of studying overseas. Aside from the international exposure, and learning from experiences of those from across the world which adds to one’s overall personality development, the LL.M. program also exposes one to many areas of the law that one doesn’t study in India. For example at Harvard I took a course called Analytical Methods for Lawyers which included Game Theory, Statistics, Accounting and Decision Analysis in Contracting matters which I found fascinating. I also studied other topics I had no exposure to in India like Entertainment and Media law, Alternative Dispute Resolution methods and got an opportunity to study Negotiations from the Gurus of Negotiation Theory – William Ury, Roger Fisher, Bob Mnookin etc.

     

    WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU FACED STUDYING AT ONE OF THE PREMIER UNIVERSITIES FOR LAW IN THE WORLD? HOW DID YOU KEEP UP WITH HARVARD’S ACADEMIC RIGOUR?

    While the academic schedule at Harvard, and for that matter in most LL.M. Programs, is quite intense, it’s also a lot of fun and at the end. What is paramount is what one wants to take away from the program. At Harvard for example, some of the greatest discussions took place outside of the classroom; at student events or informal discussions. As a place of learning Harvard encourages that, so one doesn’t really face any “challenges” in such a structured program. The program allows one to pursue other interests and activities across all Harvard campuses and that is a good way to balance the academic schedule along with the non-academic activities on campus.

    I would also like to share that while I was at Harvard Law School, my older brother was at Harvard Business School and if I remember correctly, we are the third or fourth set of brothers to have graduated Harvard University on the same day, at the same time but at different ceremonies. So on graduation days my mother was at my ceremony and my father attended my brother’s ceremony.

    HOW DID YOU COME TO TAKE UP A POSITION WITH LEHMAN BROTHERS? WHAT ARE THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS FOR YOU FROM THIS EXPERIENCE?

    As I mentioned above, my introduction to Lehman Brothers was made by the General Counsel of TCS Americas. It was the only interview I got after graduating from Harvard and I started as a temporary worker and was made Vice-President Corporate Law in five weeks of working with them. In this role, I was supporting the global procurements team on all their contracts and handled everything from negotiating the bank’s Bloomberg Data contract to the acquisition of Private Jets that were undertaken. I also worked very closely with the Benefits team and worked on re-negotiating the global health benefits and insurance program for 14,000 employees. My greatest take-away from working at Lehman was how to understand the business and commercial interest of your client, in this case the bank itself, and balance those interests with the law to make sure the deal goes through. I was also able to put to immediate use the negotiation skills I had acquired while at Harvard and see them bear results. That is something that has held me in great stead in all my client dealings.

     

    WHAT MOTIVATED YOU TO JOIN AMARCHAND MANGALDAS? COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR JOURNEY TO BECOMING A PARTNER AT ONE OF INDIA’S LEADING LAW FIRMS?

    Upon my return to India, my former partner from Dua Associates had joined Amarchand Mangaldas (undivided) and while I was keen to start my private practice, he asked me to join and it was an offer I found very tough to refuse. In retrospection I am thrilled to have accepted that offer as I learnt immensely from working at India’s premier law firm. Amarchand had a great brand value and I remember when I shared with my Harvard colleagues that I had joined Amarchand, almost everyone had heard of it in their home country. During the time at Amarchand, it was in the process of charting out its course for further growth and I really enjoyed being a part of the journey which eventually led to my selection as a Partner at the firm. This was an especially happy moment for me as I was one of the 19 Partners at the Delhi office. It would be my strong recommendation to junior lawyers to, at some stage, work at a large law firm to understand the mechanics of an Indian law firm and only post that experience decide their long term career goals.

     

    WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES AND LEARNING OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU ARE FACED WITH IN YOUR INDEPENDENT PRACTICE?

    Independent practice is an all in one process – you’re the originator of the work, the executor, the teacher and mentor, the researcher and sometimes also the office manager! But it’s a lot of fun and while I recognise that independent practice may not be for everyone, I would not trade independent practice for anything else. One of the most difficult things for me while returning to litigation and independent/private practice was to try to re-establish my brand, which one had to do from scratch. Amongst the best things about private practice is the freedom to do all kinds of different things and work across various practice areas, which one is not able to do while in the structured confines of a law firm. As a result, one is constantly evolving and learning something new every day which makes independent practice a lot less monotonous or repetitive.

     

    GIVEN THE DYNAMIC NATURE OF THE FIELD YOU PRACTICE IN, HOW DO YOU KEEP YOURSELF UPDATED ABOUT THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS IN THE LAW?

     One of the best ways to stay updated about the latest developments in the law is through leading law journals and the various other online law portals which come up with an analysis and bring to one’s attention the developments in the law across the country. Given that I write almost every week and invariably choose topics outside of my area of work, I always learn through the process and make it a point to read the latest Court decisions. Despite the latest cases being available at the press of a button, I urge all young lawyers to maintain their personal case journal and update the same regularly.

    Additionally, the entire chamber eats lunch together on Saturdays and we have a rule where one of my Juniors is expected to have read up on a case and is required to share details of that with the others. We do this in a relaxed environment not to make it overly burdensome and keep it fun, yet not lose sight that it’s a work assignment.

     

    WHAT DOES A TYPICAL WORKING DAY LOOK LIKE FOR YOU?

    Most litigators and more so those in private practice work 7 days a week. Weekends tend to be the busiest as one is catching up on drafting, vetting drafts and settling pleadings. On most days I’m in office till past 10 pm. But the advantage of private practice is that post Court hours one is the master of one’s own schedule and can plan one’s day accordingly. So on most days, I would try to get back home to be with my Son during his dinner time and also try to eat with my wife and then come back to office to work late into the night.

     

    HOW DO YOU MANAGE YOUR TIME BETWEEN YOUR PROFESSIONAL AND PERSONAL INTERESTS? WHAT ARE YOUR INTERESTS OUTSIDE LAW?

     I’m extremely fond of art and fashion, love food and travel and greatly enjoy listening to new-age jazz and lounge music. There is often music playing in the office. I am also fond of photography and many photos taken by me adorn by chamber walls. I also have a great interest in theatre and drama having worked for many years at India’s leading professional theatre group. So if there’re any plays in town, I make it a point to try and see them. The good part is that in private practice one is able to manage one’s own schedule and create one’s own personal- professional work life balance. I equally urge all my Juniors to definitely engage in some sporting or other activity on a daily basis.

     

    WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PARTING MESSAGE TO OUR READERS WHO ARE PRIMARILY LAW STUDENTS AND YOUNG LAWYERS?

    Today, a law degree offers many alternative career options for law students. My parting message both to law students and young lawyers is – Choose wisely, the career path you’d like to pursue, but then follow it with dogmatic determination. Follow your dreams, chase your heart and be passionate about your work doing it with utmost honestly and all sincerity. Don’t draw comparison with your peers or classmates and don’t jump-ship just because you feel your friend is ‘doing better’ or is ahead. Once you’ve chosen a path, give it lots of time and all your energies. The practice of law, whether at a law firm or as a litigator requires one to put in a lot of hard work and long hours. One must have the mental strength and resolve to deal with 14-16 hours days. Even if they don’t produce immediate results, its like making a deposit in a bank, all those hours will eventually yield results. As a U.S. Supreme Court Judge said “The law is a jealous mistress and requires a long and constant courtship. It is not to be won by trifling favors, but by lavish homage.” But above all, , remember to have fun along the way, its not always the destination, but also the journey that matters.

  • Kunal Endait, Head Litigation & IP, Mintkart India, on career in media law, and experience as an in-house counsel

    Kunal Endait, Head Litigation & IP, Mintkart India, on career in media law, and experience as an in-house counsel

    Kunal Endait completed his graduation from ILS Law College, Pune. He then went on to pursue his LL.M from NLSIU. He is currently in-house counsel (Head Litigation & IP) at Mintkart India Pvt Ltd (formerly EBay India and a Flipkart group company). He has over ten years of professional experience and has experience of working in media and newspapers industry. He is skilled in litigation, negotiation, and transactions along with corporate advisory. He shares his experience as a lawyer, in house counsel and a writer.

    In this interview, we speak to him about:

    • Roles and responsibilities as chief manager-legal at Bennett, Coleman & co. Ltd
    • Experience as an in-house counsel at various organisations
    • Choosing a career in media law
    • Importance of writing research papers.

     

    HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO OUR READERS?

    A lawyer, born and brought up in a lawyer’s family. I did my graduation in law from ILS and post-graduation from NLSIU. Law comes to me as heredity and I always knew right from the beginning that I wanted to become a lawyer as I had observed my father’s efforts, dedication, knowledge and respect he commended by his popularity as a successful advocate, which were sufficient considerations for me to decide my career path at the very threshold. Frankly, I never thought of any other conventional courses and my goal was fixed right from the beginning.

     

    PLEASE TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR COLLEGE LIFE? HOW INSTRUMENTAL HAS YOUR COLLEGE BEEN SHAPING YOUR CAREER?

    While I always wanted to opt for law, my parents had a fair expectation that I should make all endeavours to secure my candidature in premium law institutes. To my luck, I secured my seat in one of the best institutes, ILS, Pune. Let me also be candid here, coming from then under developed part of the country and that too from vernacular medium (I belong to Dhule district, Maharashtra), I was skeptical if I would be able to continue with ILS, but then I interacted with my faculty, who all guided me throughout my law curriculum and also made some of my best lifetime friends, who all have always supported me throughout my journey. I was a sport rather cricket follower and would often participate in the various intercollege/university tournaments and that also added to my confidence. Internet and other online resources were yet impact the market then, hence I could spend quality time with books and library of my college. ILS has one of the best law books collection and luckily, I was benefitted. I was not much of bookish person, but always loved reading legal texts, if not literature. I would also like to mention my professors Shri. Deshmukh, Shri. Jaybhay, Bhadbhade Madam, Bhatia madam, who are all known to be the best and they indeed added a lot to my life as their student.

     

    WHAT MOTIVATED YOU TO GO FOR A MASTERS PROGRAMME?

    It was my father, who suggested that I should contemplate taking up further studies. I was looking at multiple options at that time, including civil services, foreign studies and assignments, however, I found my father’s suggestion quite convincing, though he insisted that I should make efforts to take up my masters in the premium law school. Around the same time I came across NLSIU masters program advertisement in newspaper and I applied for their entrance test. I did not have much of time to prepare for entrance exams, however, my final year of LL.B studies helped me and I got through the entrance test and that’s how I got into NLSIU. I must acknowledge contribution of my professors Prof. Viaykumar, Prof. M K Ramesh, Prof. Devidas, Prof. Ajjappa and others for their kind guidance.

     

    PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOUR TIME AT LAWYER’S COLLECTIVE. WHAT LED YOU TO SHIFT TO AN IN-HOUSE ROLE AFTER WORKING IN LITIGATION?

    I owe Lawyer’s Collective as it taught me extensively post academic life and helped me grow as a professional. When I was about to submit my dissertation for my masters, Lawyers Collective happened. I joined them with their HIV/AIDS unit as Legal Officer and was looking into litigation matters for their clients. HIV/AIDS Unit was providing pro bono legal support to the deprived and discriminated people. This came across as the best opportunity I could have asked for. I got to handle plethora of matters involving constitutional issues, writs, criminal issues, civil and property related disputes etc. Nevertheless, the best part was to work directly with Mr. Anand Grover (Sr. Counsel), who was heading the team and the guiding force behind the strategy we would devise to contest matters for our clients then. Gradually, I started handling firm’s matters and that’s when I received extensive exposure to constitution and writ side issues. Mr. Grover is very particular and would often make us read common law judgements, because of which the team also received exposure to common law authorities. Lawyers Collective offered me an opportunity to work on the projects involving property and inheritance rights of women in Indian sub-continent. I visited Sri Lanka and Bangladesh sometimes around 2008, met lawyers, NGOs, Human rights activists etc and that added immense value to me not only as a lawyer but as human too. Working with Mr. Anand Grover as an honour. I would like to also acknowledge contribution of my then Manager, Mr. Vijay Hiremath, who also guided and supported me throughout my stint, he is a successful counsel and continues to guide me even now.

     

    YOU HAVE DIVERSE EXPERIENCE AS IN-HOUSE COUNSEL AT VARIOUS ORGANISATIONS. WHAT IS THE NATURE OF WORK OF AN IN-HOUSE COUNSEL?

    I feel in-house lawyer cannot really summarise his/her work in a short one page write up. It is always the variety of issues that the in-house counsel needs to address to on a regular basis. Mind you, unlike other sectors, in-house legal team needs to be on its toes as any issue impacting your employer’s interest would have to first run past through the legal team and therefore opinions and advises are required to be issued with real rapid pace, that too ensuring correctness in the advice.

    In my small span of in-house I have handled litigation (civil, criminal, consumer, IP, constitutional etc.), contracts, corporate advisory, notices (private, law enforcement), HR related issues, business transfers along with variety other.

    WHAT WOULD BE YOUR WORD OF ADVICE TO STUDENTS INTERESTED IN MEDIA LAW?

    Being a media lawyer is a responsibility, not only towards your organisation but society at large. Your advice would have bearing on your reader/viewer’s right to know, a fundamental right that enables every individual to have access of every affair that is taking place around him/her in the society and country. Importantly, working into media sector is almost 24/7 assignment and you must always act proactively. Media law is a key sector and those who wish to choose this as their career must bear in their mind that the constitution of India is extremely instrumental in this field along with media and broadcast, press laws. I have enjoyed my time with multiple media entities and I am extremely proud of that. As an in-house, one should indeed explore media opportunity, I feel.

     

    AS CHIEF MANAGER-LEGAL AT BENNETT, COLEMAN & CO. LTD WHAT WERE YOUR ROLES AND RESPONSIBILITIES?

    I was a team member of their litigation portfolio for the western region of India. Simultaneously was responsible for corporate advisory, property related issues, checking legal compliance, engagement with law enforcement agencies, variety of contracts and the most importantly working with Mr. Amit Rai directly under his guidance. I would like to mention Mr. Rai especially as he is my Guru, who has taught me extensively on the media laws, apart from being a great professional, he’s extremely caring boss and you have a lot to learn from him, particularly his leadership skills and his in-depth hold on law subjects and related issues. It was a fulfilling experience working under Mr. Rai’s leadership at Bennett, Coleman & Co. Ltd.

     

    IF ANY STUDENT WISHES TO INTERN WITH BENNETT, COLEMAN & co. Ltd WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE FOR APPLICATION?

    Bennett, Coleman & Co. Ltd has its own legal department and the students may approach the team through HR department, who will guide them in a better manner.

     

    YOU HAVE RECENTLY MOVED TO MINTKART INDIA PVT LTD (FORMERLY EBAY INDIA AND A FLIPKART GROUP COMPANY) AS IN-HOUSE COUNSEL (HEAD LITIGATION & IP). WHAT FACTORS INFLUENCED YOU TO MOVE TO EBAY?

    I think e-commerce is a fast paced sector and would present multiple legal challenges, opportunities for learning as well value addition for a lawyer. It is a privilege to be associated with the market leader, Flipkart, particularly when I will have an opportunity to explore global scenarios through the platform. It is also interesting to work closely with the team in the wake of recent takeover of Flipkart by Walmart.

     

    HOW CAN A LAW STUDENT APPLY FOR INTERNSHIP AT THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT OF MINTKART INDIA?

    I would advise students to get in touch with HR team of the company and they will guide you through the process.

     

    YOU HAVE AUTHORED NUMEROUS RESEARCH PAPERS. WHAT SHOULD BE THE APPROACH OF A STUDENT WHILE TAKING UP THE TASK OF AUTHORING A RESEARCH PAPER. WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE TO LAW STUDENTS TO IMPROVE THEIR LEGAL WRITING SKILLS?

    I firmly believe, the research papers/thesis cannot be carried out based on hear say or for that matter using internet resources. Most of my research papers were based on empirical research and experiences. For instance, I had authored a research paper on the plight of refugees and legal remedies for them, and for the said project, I had spent 3 days in a refugee camp and interacted closely with the victims and aggrieved people. Getting firsthand knowledge is extremely crucial and one must not rely solely on the third party data. I had implemented similar methodology during my visits to Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

     

    YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF BOTH LITIGATION AS WELL AS IN-HOUSE ROLES. PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN BOTH FIELDS. WHAT FACTORS SHOULD A YOUNG LAWYER/LAW STUDENT KEEP IN MIND BEFORE DECIDING WHICH FIELD TO CHOOSE?

    I feel there isn’t much difference, its just that the terminologies very from external clients to internal clients/stakeholders. While I have worked as a practicing counsel as well, in-house has little difference that you must have all round industry knowledge and that yours advises require should be self-sufficient. By that I mean to say that in-house counsel’s advice should be extremely helpful for your external counsels that they merely have to argue the matter based on the in-house advice. Both complement each other.

     

    WHAT WOULD BE YOUR PARTING MESSAGE TO OUR READERS WHO ARE PRIMARILY LAW STUDENTS AND YOUNG LAWYERS?

    Go for it. Law is a sector, which does not only offer you monitory growth, but will also offer you feeling of adding values to society at large as the core purpose of legal system in our country has this basis. Time is changing, law is no longer what it was, we have ample opportunities, please join the league.