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  • Akshay Saxena, Associate, Seth Associates and Legal Consultants, on law school experience at IMS Noida

    Akshay Saxena, Associate, Seth Associates and Legal Consultants, on law school experience at IMS Noida

    Akshay Saxena graduated from IMS Law College, Noida in 2015. Presently, he is an Associate at Seth Associates & Legal Consultants, Noida.

     In this interview he talks to us about:

    • His experience at IMS Law College.
    • His remarkable experiences during the internships.
    • A few tips on managing high grades.
    • Status of cyber crime in present scenario.

    Given that most of our readers belong to legal fraternity, how would you introduce yourself to them?

    Hello to all the readers & viewers, I am Akshay Saxena.  I graduated from IMS Law college, Noida in 2015 and I am an Associate at Seth Associates & Legal Consultants, Noida.

    What motivated you to choose law as a career?

    My Father is a lawyer and he is my Idol from the very first day. He did not put pressure on me to pursue anything. He set me free to choose whatever I wanted to do.  I used to admire my father and his work, his skills and secondly I had no other plans after my 12th in my mind. I wanted to make my career in law so I started preparing for CLAT but eventually I couldn’t score much and as I did not want to waste my year so I took admission in IMS Law College.

    How was your experience at IMS Law College? What were your hobbies during your tenure in law school?

    First of all being a Non- NLU student it is very difficult to survive in the legal fraternity. I was a Non – NLU student and it was difficult for me to stabilize myself in this field. But I was aware from the fact that if I work hard and if I keep going without losing hope I will definitely achieve what I want. And coming back to the experience in my College, I used to be the student who was full of energy and was very active and quite known among the faculty. I started participating in debates, seminars, workshops etc. My hobbies were playing cricket and Pool/Snooker. I had a huge friend circle in my college and I used to spend my time with my friends.

    What were your areas of interest during your graduation? How did you go about developing expertise and knowledge in these areas?

    During my graduation I was very much fond of studying Arbitration & Conciliation, Indian Penal Code, Contract, Intellectual Property Rights. I started studying more and more about the core law subjects like Crpc, CPC, Evidence and IPR. When I started reading Arbitration & conciliation somehow I started developing interest in that area and used to study articles related to that. And then in the next semester I had the subject IPR after which I decided to focus on IPR and build my career as an IP lawyer preferably. I used to read books and articles on IPR and started gathering knowledge about this area. Talking about developing expertise and knowledge in these areas came when I realized that it is high time now for me get serious about my career and when I had to choose one area I chose IPR and Cyber.

    What are your thoughts on activities like mooting and debating? What skills do law students acquire by engaging themselves in such activities?

    Mooting and debating are the best platform for a young talent to show their skills in front of many people. Mooting is an experience of a lifetime. One gets immense exposure and experience about the court proceedings. I remember the day when I first started preparing for my first Moot which was “XI All Delhi-NCR Moot Court Competition 2013” in Delhi University, I was very much tensed as I had to research on various issues/Judgments and making memorial and compiling all the relevant things together and one has to prepare for & against as well because you never know on what stance you will be asked to argue in front of High Court Judges. As I was the Researcher in my first moot competition which doubled my worries but my mentor Ms. Surabhi Guleria who gave us confidence and self belief because of which my team ended up winning the Competition. That win gave me ample amount of confidence and then I participated in “1st National Moot Court Competition held in Sharda University 2014”and later my team was declared as winner. I was the speaker in that Moot competition. Mooting & debating gives a person a great confidence to brush up their skills and to acknowledge their positive points and negative points. Mooting and debating is an extra-curricular opportunity for a law student to practice their legal advocacy skills. Mooting and Debating develops group work skills, the skill of argument, the skill of making reasoned judgments and self confidence.

    Any remarkable experiences during your internships that shaped your career?

    First of all let me tell to all the readers and law students that internship plays a very vital role in gathering professional ethics, court proceedings, and the work environment in a law office/chamber. I remember the day when I got the opportunity to meet Mr. Salman Khurshid and I gave a brief to him about the case, plus during Internships every law student gets to see the lifestyle of a lawyer. I witnessed Mr. Harish Salve arguing in the Supreme Court on my first visit to the Supreme Court of India during my internship. During internship I got the opportunity to draft some PIL’s and legal notices which was very interesting and gave me a lot of knowledge and enhanced my research skills altogether. Internships gave me a slight insight of the working environment of a law firm & chambers, which eventually helped me after I joined the current firm as an Associate.

    Share with our readers a few actionable tips on managing high grades.

    Practically law is entirely different from what we learn or read in our college. Whereas to score high marks and good grades one must acquire good knowledge of Sections/Articles/Case laws and everything becomes easy when you read a case related to a particular section. It is difficult to score high marks but not an impossible task. A law student should learn the basic concept rather than mugging up the whole Bare-Act. It becomes easy when a student knows the basics of the subject and if a student has doubts regarding anything he/she should consult his faculty. Read as much as you can, be aware of the latest amendments and pay attention in your class when your faculty teaches you something, well that helps a lot.

    Please share your experience with Advocate Karnika Seth.

    Well it is my pleasure to work with Adv. Karnika Seth. She is a well known cyber lawyer and a cyber expert. It has not been much time since I joined her office but in such a less time I have worked on various cases related to cyber crime and got to learn the basics. She is a great mentor and whenever she assigns some work to me she always make sure that I put my efforts in right direction and always keeps backing her associates which inspires and motivates us to work hard. She never scold or raise her voice if the work she assigned is not upto the mark, she would rather show the right direction and right way to deal with the problem.  Working with the top cyber lawyer gave me an exposure and enhanced my skills. Since she has published numerous books on Cyber crimes/ child pornography etc, it becomes easy for us to consult anything and everything from her regarding any problem related to cyber law and a lot more she is very well versed of the fact that how to get quality work from her associates. She keeps sharing her experience with us and keeps encouraging the young/budding lawyers. So far my experience of working with Advocate Seth is tremendous and full of knowledge. As she also deals with IPR matters, she assigned me some Trademark cases and set me free to handle the case  on my own and gave me the opportunity to appear in TMR hearings which drew my interest towards IPR and I am very much satisfied with the kind of work I am doing with her.

    How did your appointment at Seth Associate and Legal Consultants take place?

    Well Adv. Seth used to speak and give knowledge on the Cyber-laws at various different forums. So she was invited once in my college to give us some knowledge about the cyber laws and cyber crimes, so I knew her since then. It was my last semester and as my final year result came I sent across my CV to her email id and within three days I got the reply and she asked to present a synopsis on any legal topic of my choice and eventually I chose “Cyber crimes” and sent that synopsis to her and then she called me for personal interview and this is how my appointment at Seth Associates and Legal Consultants took place.

    Many law students aspire to secure a job. What do you think most are doing wrong, from your observation?

    As far as my observation is concerned the thing which many law students do wrong during their academics is not doing internships. I would suggest every aspiring law student to do as much internships as they can, in the same area in which they wish to start their career, because internships gives a very deep knowledge and experience to a law student. It becomes easy for a recruiter to appoint you in their firm if you had done internships in the same area as it won’t be difficult for the law students to start working in a firm. During college days every law student must choose their preferred area in which they wish to get expertise and then scrutinize the firm and start applying in the same. The law students should keep this in mind that failures and rejections are the part of a life, for a student rejections are basically the hurdles which makes or breaks the confidence, it is upto you whether you make it or break it. Do not lose hope keep trying and never give up.

    And when you are interning somewhere keep asking for work from the concerned person as it will bring you in notice of the people working with the firm and try to intern with a same firm twice it will make you familiar with the associates and partners, it will help you get a PPO(May be).

    Keep your resume short, simple and up to the mark. Mention your work experience; mention your qualities and your achievements.

    What is the status of cyber crime in present scenario?

    In present scenario the cyber crimes are increasing day by day. The world of Internet today has become a parallel form of life and living. Public are now capable of doing things which were not imaginable few years ago. The Internet is fast becoming a way of life for millions of people and also a way of living because of growing dependence on these machines. Cyber crimes have been reported across the world. It is now amongst the most important revenue sectors for global organized crime.  After introducing the cyber law in our country the cyber crimes are becoming less but still some of the cases are their which changes the public mind about the people of our country. Through cyber law many people got arrested and they are now also behind the bar. After seeing so much safety the people are not creating much violence about this. Because of cyber crime many people had suffered and mainly the rich people and the girls. Therefore Cyber crime system requirements in India are being increasing day by day as per the crimes are increasing. At present there are so many cases of cyber crimes pending in the court and the people are waiting because of the lack of lawyers for cyber crime. So there is a need of cyber lawyers who can support the people and provide them a good assistance and status in the society. There are many cases of hacking other’s account, spreading virus in others system through email, etc. and through this many people are suffering from cyber crime. We as a lawyer need to take up the challenge against cyber crimes and help the people who have been suffering from such crimes. I am sure that our country will definitely come up with some more strict laws in accordance to stop the cyber crimes.

    What should be your advice to our readers?

    I would say keep up the good work, keep reading articles, keep learning and never lose hope. Everyone should believe in themselves and wait for the right moment.

    “BE A LEARNER”

     

  • Nitika Marya, Vahura, on recruiting junior lawyers

    Nitika Marya, Vahura, on recruiting junior lawyers

    Nitika Marya graduated from University Institute of Legal Studies, Panjab University, Chandigarh in 2013. She did her internships with D.P. Ahuja & Co ( Patents & Coprights Attorney) in Kolkata, Lenovo- legal department, Gurgaon, SPS Bhullar, Punjab & Haryana High Court and also assisted Sivana with their contracts- a Recruitment Company in Muscat.

    At Vahura, Nitika is specifically responsible for recruiting junior lawyers with an experience of 0 to 3 years in the Delhi-NCR region and also looking into Candidate engagement and Assesment. 

    In this interview, she talks to us about:

    • Her experience at University Institute of Legal Studies, Panjab University.
    • Primary professional ethics she follows.
    • Unconventional start to her legal profession.
    • Other fields a corporate lawyer can try apart from joining law firms.

    Most of our readers are young lawyers and law students. How will you introduce yourself to them?

    I am a consultant at Vahura, a specialized legal talent search partner and a People’s person. I love networking and learning more about people from different backgrounds and have always been a sports person and a health freak. I have learnt from the experiences and situations in life and focused on developing myself into a better person with every passing day. I like to focus on being positive and healthy and working hard in the areas of my interest. I always want to be curious in my life.

    Please tell a bit of what motivated you to pursue law as a career.

    I was always interested in exploring the nexus between law and the Government Services. I always wanted a career in the Defense Services and an opportunity to work with the JAG Department had always been the reason behind my choosing a legal education and career. I had an opportunity to witness the value of a strong legal education and the impact it could have on an individual and societal level. Thanks to my uncle who was a Sessions Judge in the Panjab and Haryana High Court – someone who influenced me greatly and has been a role model to me in my entire life.

    Tell us about your college life at University Institute of Legal Studies, Panjab University.

    I really immersed myself fully into the college experience. I was chosen to be the Class representative and was genuinely interested in my education and believed in the need for practical. I was always a volunteer for field work on a number of projects that included issues like drug abuse and rehabilitation. I was not a keen orator however but never shied away from expressing my opinions. I always participated in all the extracurricular activities and as is the case with most college students, I travelled extensively with my friends.

    Did you find that your law school education had prepared you sufficiently for the many tasks you were required to execute during your internships and later at your job?

    There was very little assistance with respect to recruitments in its own way though it made me very independent. The pressure of seeking my own opportunities helped me refine my research skills and organizing abilities, which is something I have carried into my career. In a sense, law school made me very self sufficient.

    What is your take on working at a smaller law firm in early years of career rather than working at a very big law firm?

    If you’re looking for greater professional exposure and independent experiences, it’s always good to work in a smaller law firm. A smaller firm provides its employees a more diversified profile of work and encourages an attitude that is increasingly less dependent on external guidance. Spending time in a smaller law firm invariably leads to greater confidence, post which is good for someone to explore other opportunities.

    What are the primary professional ethics you follow while at work?

    I try to reflect the clients and the candidates I interact with, ensuring that I am well prepared for all discussions and negotiations. Etiquette is important and I always like to ensure that I have a complete understanding of what works where. I like to think that I should strike a balance between confidentiality and transparency wherein I never over sell or attempt to make an opportunity or a profile seem like something it is not. I like to call a spade a spade and by doing so, I earn the trust of whoever I am working with – something which is very valuable to me.

    Why is there an unconventional start to your legal profession (joining Vahura)?

    As I mentioned earlier, I always wanted to get into law because of my interest in Defense. As I continued to research opportunities in the law, I realized that there were very few resources and people who could offer guidance to young law students, particularly those interested in a more holistic perspective that looked beyond the already existing, conventional choices. I wanted to act as a bridge between students and the system and my work at Vahura allows me to do just that. You could say that it’s a way of reinterpreting the age that if you want to change the system, you have to be a part of the system and with Vahura, I interact closely with legal professionals and the industry, gaining insights into its working every day.

    What gets you to wake up every day?

    I’m excited about my work. Vahura offers me the opportunity to meet people who are interesting. I love my colleagues and the time I spend with them at work is precious. I feel like I’m getting closer to bridge the gap between professionals and students– a purpose that initially led me to Vahura.

    What is the best thing about your present job?

    I love meeting people. Vahura has given me opportunities to organize and speak at various platforms like IDIA where I have the chance to interact with young law students who are seeking answers to questions regarding their career and educations. I also look forward to meet my colleagues everyday. I also love organizing events and Vahura allows me to be in the forefront of interesting, curated experiences such as the Private Commercial Mediation Conclave – a conference co-hosted by the Centre for Advanced Mediation and Practices. I have some great memories from the Vahura – IDIA football tournament held every year where members of law firms from across the country meet up to play against each other, in the name of a good cause. I have spoken to SSB Army aspirants about my experiences taking the entrance exams and recently spoke to the IDIA scholars about preparing for the civil services exams.

    I feel like I’ve evolved as a professional and as a person I’ve become more confident and less shy of my abilities. I am always curious and feel like Vahura pushes me to learn more and more about myself.

    What are the other related fields where a corporate lawyer can try their hand apart from joining law firms and corporate houses?

    Government services and the Defense offer a range of options – there are always opportunities in JAG and the Civil Services. In addition, there are a number of Start Ups and smaller firms that are constantly looking for enthusiastic, young lawyers who are hungry to learn more and work hard on the job. Big law firms and corporate houses needn’t always be the answer and if anyone is interested, I would always be happy to speak to them one on one to discuss their concerns and answer their queries.

    What would be the one misconception you’d say you’d always held about real life legal work till the time you were an intern but changed once you started working as a lawyer?

    At an internship I always assisted the Senior. I have now understood that I need to make my own decisions with respect to my career and my life.

    What would be your parting message to law students who want to be successful in law?

    I might be repeating myself however it is very important to always stay faithful to what you want to do. Even if what you want is not a majority opinion, that’s fine and this could still mean that you have opportunities ahead. You do not always have to go to a big law firm or corporate but you can always join a startup etc. and find yourself the way Vahura helped me find myself.

     

  • Kavya Nagaraj, Associate, Tatva Legal, on drafting legal due diligence report

    Kavya Nagaraj, Associate, Tatva Legal, on drafting legal due diligence report

    Kavya Nagaraj graduated from National Law University, Jodhpur in 2013. During college, she was on research work and has penned down a number of paper for various seminars. She also has an excellent series of internships with a mix and match of law firms and corporations. Soon after graduation, she joined Tatva Legal and at the time of this interview worked as an Associate there.

    In this interview she talks to us about:

    • Legal due diligence report and drafting of the same.
    • Drafting skills one must acquire.
    • Challenges faced while drafting an agreement.
    • How can one learn to draft a legal opinion.

    Tell us about a legal due diligence report and drafting of the same.

    Due Diligence is a broad spectrum of investigative procedures in relation to an acquisition of a company’s shares or of assets in a commercial context, a joint venture project, a debt transaction, a financing transaction, the issue of securities or other general pre-contractual inquiries.

    The legal due diligence report is a standard, detailed / brief (depending on the client preference) report comprising of particular sections relating to a detailed review of the target company and its business.

    Every Law Firm has a unique style of drafting, be it agreements or reports. In my experience of drafting one, the legal due diligence report consists of particular sections detailing the target company’s mechanism. To name a few sections, the report will include: general corporate, borrowings / lending, agreements, licenses, real estate, insurance, personnel, intellectual property etc.

    The main agenda is to get a clear picture of the activities of the target company, relating to the transaction and how it affects the client.

    What complexities are faced while preparing a due diligence report?

    During the process of conducting a due diligence of a target company, the lawyers representing the company and the client will have series of discussions in which the complexities, be it minor or major can be resolved amicably. If any such complexity is not resolved, the parties may decide to drop the transaction.

    Sometimes a transaction drops solely because a company would not have complied with all the rules and regulations which are necessary for a transaction. For that reason, Due Diligence is now finding deserved place in Indian Statues. Mandatory provisions have been introduced for conducting due diligence. This definitely makes it easier to both the parties in conducting a due diligence and completion of a transaction.

     How can one acquire drafting skills?

    One can be good at drafting only by experience. In my opinion, everybody has a unique style of drafting because of the language used, way of expression etc. So, one should be able to give the reader a clear picture of what they want to express or convey in an agreement. Being a lawyer, you tend to read a lot of agreements / contracts / opinions etc., which are involved in a transaction. Gradually, one will have an idea about what an agreement will consist of, which would help in drafting one on their own.

    What is the difference between corporate due diligence and due diligence relating to property?

    Corporate due diligence is related to a Company, LLP, Partnership Firm, a Promoter etc. whereas, the due diligence relating to a property is an investigation regarding the marketable title of such property, which is being dealt in a transaction. Property due diligence involves tracing of title from the beginning, examination of the revenue records and the permissions obtained by the concerned authority in relation to the property. The conclusions will be given accordingly.

     What is the difference between corporate legal team and litigation?

    There is definitely a big difference between the two. Corporate legal team will mostly focus on the corporate transactions like due diligence, drafting, review of agreements, providing legal opinion etc., whereas, a litigation team focuses on the process involved in a lawsuit, like the trial, hearing, legal action etc.,.

    In my opinion, both the teams work in a totally different manner. I have had a wonderful experience with the litigation teams during my internships. Right now, I am working with a corporate team. The work and the effort involved in both the teams are enthusiastic in their own way.

     What challenges are faced while drafting an agreement?

    Lawyers draft numerous agreements. The kinds of agreements we draft can vary from a simple two page agreement to an incredibly complex hundred-page tome.Of course, the complexity of an agreement depends on the type of the transaction.

    The main thing to keep in mind while drafting is ‘clarity’. A poorly drafted agreement increases the likelihood of litigation, and makes it a liability to all the parties involved.

    Lawyers who draft agreements should develop a drafting system, one that ensures that all key provisions are actually included. They also need to know how the key provisions should be crafted.

    One should be up-to-date on the current law and best practices regarding the transaction and should be aware of the range of strategic and tactical options so that he/she can advise the clients on the pros and cons of each.

    It is important to manage the clients’ expectations, i.e., what the client wants to see in an agreement; and should avoid unnecessary provisions which are out of context; and should ensure that the agreements achieve the clients’ purposes and are enforceable under the law.

     What are the common agreements you often draft?

    Sale Deed, Agreement to Sell, Lease Deed, Mortgage Deed, Development Agreement, Power of Attorney, Termination Agreement, any other agreement, as per the requirement of the client.

    How can one learn to draft a legal opinion? What challenges are faced while drafting?

    Legal opinions are used in a variety of situations. It is basically an opinion from the Lawyers expressing the legal conclusions or legal analysis of a particular transaction or a matter which is relied on by the addressee of the opinion.

    A legal opinion solely depends on the preference of a client. It may be needed for some transactions and for some it may not be necessary. The client specifically mentions about a particular area in which they need clarity on; the opinion given by the lawyers will depend on that.

    A legal opinion consists of an outlook on whether certain transaction documentation is valid and enforceable in a particular jurisdiction and complies with the local law of that jurisdiction. It may also be regarding satisfaction of certain conditions precedents in the transaction documents and will usually be required by the lenders to give them reassurance that the legal effect of lending in the transaction concerned is what they expect it to be.

    Drafting of a legal opinion, again, differs from firm to firm. A draft of a legal opinion might include particular sections namely: the background, documents examined, scope of the opinion, the opinion, assumptions and qualifications.

    The addressee of a legal opinion will be expected to and will actually rely on the accuracy of the opinion for the purposes of evaluating the legal risks of the transaction or the project. If the opinion subsequently turns out to be inaccurate or misleading in any way, the addressee of the opinion may be entitled to bring an action against the law firm issuing the opinion. A firm’s liability will depend on the wording of the opinion, however, it is for this reason that opinion will only be given after appropriate procedures have been completed by the firm in question and will usually expressly include certain assumptions and reservations upon which the opinion is made.

    What to keep in mind while drafting a legal opinion? Can you give some high top tips to draft a legal opinion?

    It is important to keep certain factors while drafting a legal opinion.

    The basic factor is the applicable law. One should have a clear cut idea about the law which is applicable to the particular transaction and should be able to identify the issues in compliance of the same.

    Identification of legal risks is also equally important so that the addressee would consider further and evaluate.

    Nowadays, because of advancement in technology, the clients would have already done a research on the basic issues and the law before offering the transaction to a law firm. So, it is inevitable for the lawyers to make an extra effort in giving flawless opinion regarding the transaction.

     

     

     

     

  • Aahna Mehrotra, Head, Sports Law, TMT Law Practice, on LL.M in sports law from UCLA & ISDE and experience as a sports lawyer

    Aahna Mehrotra, Head, Sports Law, TMT Law Practice, on LL.M in sports law from UCLA & ISDE and experience as a sports lawyer

    Aahna Mehrotra, the head of Sports Law at TMT Law Practice, is a member of the Delhi High Court Bar Association, International Association of Sports Law, and the ASSOCHAM Sports Council.

    After graduating from ILS, Pune in 2011, she has attended various prestigious institutions for varying academic laurels from an LL.M in Entertainment, Intellectual Property and Sports Law from UCLA School of Law to a Master’s Degree in Sports Law from ISDE (Instituto Superior de Derecho y Economia), where she received the Economist & Jurist Scholarship for her practical experience and academic qualifications.

    Her many distinguished achievements include having been chosen / selected to represent the country as a part of the National Women’s Under 19 Cricket team and her involvement in multiple sports at the state level.

    Academically, she has also co-authored “Law and Sports in India”, the second edition. A work dealing with the position of sports within the constitutional framework and recent events such as the IPL probe report, doping controversies, etc.

    In this interview, Aahna talks about;

    • What influences led her to pursue law as a career
    • Her interests beyond the legal sphere and the impact they had
    • The value addition of higher studies in niche areas of the Law
    • The charm of quotes and simple expression

     

    How would you like to introduce yourself to our readers?

    Lawyer by choice…Writer by chance… Sports enthusiast… Stricken by wanderlust.

     

    Tell us about your life before you joined law school. What made you gravitate towards law?

    When I was young, my grandfather quoted John Lennon to me: “When I was five years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life.”

    Seeking happiness and fulfilment in every moment I live is amongst the greatest lessons I learnt from my grandfather. He held a law degree but started his career as a sports journalist, going on to become the director of the National Herald. He then moved into the arena of politics and social causes. Wearing the mantle of a trade union leader, he sought happiness in devoting himself to the cause of improving worker benefits. I particularly remember watching him return home on the shoulders of a jubilant crowd after his success in obtaining a favourable judgment in a case involving illegal termination of employment of 300 men. Young as I was, I realised how empowering it is to know the law.

    Perhaps that’s what drew me, at school, to his dual interests: sports and journalism. I was the editor of the School Annual Magazine – resurrecting it from a two-year oblivion and also pioneered the first School Newsletter, that then became a regular feature. I was appointed Captain of the School Cricket team at a time when the school coach had gone on leave. Coaching taught me patience. I learnt that people grow with praise, that critique works only in an environment of trust and emotional security, and that the joy of seeing others grow and score through the training I had given them was a victory sweeter than my own achievements at the wicket. Not only did I lead my school team to victory, but I was also appointed as the captain of the first ever All India Girls’ School Cricket Team and went on to being selected to play for the India Under-19 Cricket Team. My time at school culminated in a very special moment when I was awarded the trophy for ‘Selfless Service and Helpfulness’.

    Having completed high school, while cricket and writing seemed worthy allies, I made a choice to pursue my dream of becoming a lawyer.

     

    How was your ILS Law College, Pune experience?

    Having lived in a boarding school for 6 years, I was tired of living the hostel life. Therefore it was a personal choice to go to ILS over a National Law School and I have no regrets over my decision to date.

    At ILS, unlike national law schools, there wasn’t a routine time table that lasted from 9 to 5 or a road map to the kind of internships one must pursue. We were done at school by 11 a.m. on most days and had the choice to then plan our day in whatever manner we pleased, also our holidays which were fairly longer compared to national law schools. Several chose to do internships both during college days and in holidays, others spent time perfecting their skills at Moot Court competitions, I on the other hand spent my time learning about Sports Law, pursuing summer school programs and doing internships both in India and abroad.

    At ILS, no two students at the end of their 5 years, turn out to be exactly the same, which I feel is the case with National Law Schools, where most students do the same kind of internships, and therefore the competition on day zero is much harder. Studying at a National Law School has its own brand value and pros, while studying at ILS makes you more independent and responsible in terms of your choices.

     

    What were your areas of interest in the law? Did you engage in extra-curricular activities while in college?

    My areas of interest had always been intellectual property, entertainment, media and sports laws which sprung from the kind of activities I was involved in back in school.

    In the first year of law school, I remember walking up to my college university representative responsible for organizing the ‘Legalease’, the annual ILS Festival, and requesting for a spot in our ‘class’ (section rather) cricket team. “I hope you know they would be playing with a leather ball!”, he exclaimed. My immediate response “I was chosen to play on the India under-19 cricket team” amused him a little further. He didn’t give me a chance to play on the boys’ team but he did, in all fairness, organize a cricket match for the girls as a part of Legalease, 2006. I also played a little bit of throw ball and volley ball as and when the opportunity arose.

    Apart from playing sport, I participated in the Harvard Model United Nations and pursued a couple of diploma courses.

     

    What internships and voluntary practical training did you take while in law school and during your LL.M years? What value addition did they provide?

    Like all other law school students, I experimented with a whole bunch of internships. I worked at an NGO, at the Hon’ble Delhi High Court, with Mr. Mukul Rohatgi at the Hon’ble Supreme Court of India, with a barrister specializing in criminal law in London and also at a law firm in Delhi during my first 3 years of law school.

    I learnt a lot during my law firm internship, as I was given the opportunity to interact with some clients, prepare my first cease and desist notice for a trademark infringement, work on matters involving sports persons, and realised that it was what I enjoyed most and not litigation. It also helped to further develop my interest in intellectual property and related areas. I then just stuck with law firm internships and interned at TMT Law Practice twice, after which they made me a pre-placement offer. It always helps to get a job offer, if you go back to an office for a second time to intern, as they are able to gauge your ability and progress better. Also, I chose to intern at a boutique law firm so that I could make a more marked and personal contribution during my internships, instead of being lost at a large law firm.

     

     

    You pursued an LL.M from UCLA in entertainment, IP and Sports Law. Tell us about the LL.M course you took, how did you apply for it and what was life at UCLA like?

    An LL.M application is all about your Statement of Purpose (SOP) and they give little weightage to your grades or C.V., is what I learnt from personal experience.

    I applied for an LL.M while in law school to about 8 law schools in the States. It was a decision taken overnight and I did not think the SOPs through. Having been a creative writer in school, I took it all for granted and drafted my SOPs in one night and sent in my applications in December 2010. I was rejected by all 8 law schools.

    I pondered over the rejection, re-read my SOPs, and realised that they made no sense as they were a bunch of disconnected paras put together to comply with the word limit. I took the same drafts, and re-worked the structuring and choice of words and then re-applied in October, 2011. By the summer of 2012, I was spoilt for choice with an admission to all 8 law schools, some even willing to offer me scholarships.

    I had an admission to Duke University, a T-14 law school, and had even paid up the advance to block a seat and done my visa formalities when I heard from UCLA. It was the toughest decision to make, a ‘T-14 Law School’ versus the top school for entertainment law. I tried to choose the best of both worlds. While I chose to disregard the overall rankings and went with the rankings for subjects of my interest and gave importance to professors like Nimmer in picking UCLA for an LL.M., I pursued a summer school course with Duke Law School, a program run by them at the University of Geneva which gives you the opportunity to do up to 6 credits of course work. I studied sports law at the summer school offered by Duke, and then joined UCLA for my LL.M.

    UCLA gives you the opportunity to do 4 credits worth of practical training as a part of their LL.M. This, in my opinion, is what sets UCLA apart from other law schools and gives its students an edge over the others. Once made aware of this opportunity, I sat for campus placements and secured an internship at Warner Bros. Intellectual Property Dept. If there was the slightest doubt in my head about having left Duke for UCLA, I knew at that point for sure, that UCLA had been the best decision I made.

    As far as leisure activities go, all law schools in the States have a concept called the ‘Bar Review’. It has nothing to do with the American Bar Association, it is a concept wherein on every Thursday night you go review / check out a bar / club in town for drinks. Los Angeles being famous for its night life, I don’t remember ever having to repeat a bar.

     

    How did your interest in these fields develop?

    I constantly missed playing regular cricket through my years at law school. There weren’t too many opportunities available in Pune for women. In fact, I momentarily contemplated moving to GLC as Mumbai had a lot more to offer in terms of women’s cricket. In fact, women’s cricket only came under the auspices of BCCI in 2006, the year I had left playing cricket and started law school. My juniors from school often called and narrated stories of their experiences at Ranji, from a time when we would fund our own travel to them finally being paid Rs. 5000/- for a match. I felt really happy for them and I knew then that true happiness for me lay in uniting both my vocation (law) and passion (sports and writing). While I had lost my touch on the field due to lack of practice, I made a conscious decision to specialize in Intellectual Property and related fields like Entertainment, Media and Sports Law and in some way remain connected to Sport.

    As a writer, of course, you must always be well-versed with copyright law. I always enjoyed music, it was my only other stress buster apart from sport, so I studied Music Laws at UCLA, apart from entertainment, intellectual property and sports laws. I learnt about the dying music industry and the effects of piracy. In fact, the Intellectual Property heads at Warner Bros. even gave me the opportunity to work at the Anti-Piracy dept. for a few days, which has led to me not downloading a single song or movie illegally in the last 3 years.

    So my interest in the kind of law I practice has pretty much sprung from my hobbies and that’s why I love what I do for a living.

     

    Could you explain to our readers the interrelation between entertainment, IP and Sports Law?

    What is sports law? It, apart from sports specific laws like anti-doping laws and sport specific regulations, involves all laws that effect a sports person or sports league – be it contract law, labour law or intellectual property for that matter. You cannot take away from sports leagues and sports persons trademark rights, brand value, broadcasting rights and other rights like that of privacy and publicity. For any sports league to be a success, you must get into a broadcasting rights deal with the right network provider, have some good sponsorships on board, have the player assign their image rights to the league and team owners and prevent any form of trademark infringement to protect the brand from getting diluted. Players today are filing for trademarks like the ‘eleven of hearts’ by Gareth Bale or the ‘Lightning Bolt’ pose by Usain Bolt. So sports, intellectual property and entertainment are entwined fields and there exists a constant overlap.

     

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    What is an executive LL.M and what motivated the decision to pursue one on Sports Law Instituto Superior de Derecho y Economia? Tell us about the experience and what you learnt from it.

    An executive LL.M. is a Master’s program which is pursued as a distance learning course by professionals and does not require you to be present in the same city through the year.

    While I gained a fair amount in areas related to intellectual property from my year at UCLA, unfortunately I did not learn as much about Sports that are relevant to the Indian market. Therefore, I decided to pursue a second LL.M from a school in Europe.

    ISDE gave me the opportunity to interact with some of the best sports lawyers in the world in the form of professors as well as network with sports lawyers from all over the globe in the form of classmates. Sports being an international activity and with the advent of so many leagues in India, more often than not, one lands up with matters that involve athletes from other countries, so it is always advantageous to have a rapport with attorneys in other countries.

     

    You have taken your interest in the field to the next level by assisting Justice Mukul Mudgal in jointly writing the second edition of the book ‘Law and Sports in India’. Tell us about your experience of working with him on the book.

    Justice Mudgal is by far one of the kindest human beings I have come in contact with in the legal profession. He is forever happy to see those working under him grow and provides constant support in any endeavour you choose to pursue.

    aahna-mehrotra-2Since I did not work on the first edition, it wasn’t easy to immediately start drafting or adopt someone else’s style of writing but Justice Mudgal was patient through the process. At the same time, as most of the developments in Sports law in India have only taken place in the last 5 years, it was as good as writing a new book.

    I worked with him on drafting 8 chapters of the book. These were (i) an overview of the sports scenario today, (ii) gender discrimination, (iii) anti-doping, (iv) sports as a business, (v) labour laws, (vi) violence in sports, (vii) sports dispute resolution and (viii) grey areas. I had a huge support system in the interns who researched untiringly on some of the most unheard of issues related to the sporting scenario in India. I learnt so much from them as well, like I didn’t know there was a concept called flip-throw that existed or that a suggestion to bring an orange card into play was being made in the football arena. I learnt so much about the intricacies of sports law as we drafted chapter after chapter.

    With an LL.M in progress, pressure from the publisher to adhere to the timeline and sometimes technology betraying me with an entire chapter getting wiped out just when I was done drafting it, I often did 5 a.m. mornings and eagerly looked forward to the day we would be done drafting. The end result was worth it all. It has been a privilege to work with Justice Mudgal, who feels so strongly about eradicating the malpractices in the sports industry in India, and a great honour to have worked on what has been termed as a ‘monumental work’ and an ‘encyclopaedia’ by Mr. Soli Sorabjee.

     

    Which new areas can one expect to explore in Sports Law, apart from player contracts, anti-doping or sponsorship related work? Why is this an area of law more people can choose to specialize in?

    With the advent of several leagues, many international athletes are now looking at the Indian market as an avenue so there is a lot of player transfer related work, especially in football. Apart from that, with image rights becoming a popular concept world-wide, a lot of Indian players are looking to protect their rights relating to both privacy and publicity. Scandals like match-fixing give you the opportunity to work on matters that may fall under criminal law. Things like gender-discrimination and the increase in punishment under the new anti-doping code have given rise to human rights and constitutional issues in sports. A lot of broadcasters are looking to either terminate existing contracts due to the leagues not doing well or vice versa – league owners that feel that they have not made the right choice in terms of broadcasters are looking to terminate their contracts and sign new agreements. Taxation issues and labour laws too are areas that have growing issues related to sports. More and more sports management companies seem to want to hire specialists in sports law to form an integral part of their team. As the sports industry in India continues to grow, so do the issues relating to the field, and so does the legal work.

     

    A lot of sports leagues are mushrooming in India at the moment. What legal challenges do they face and how viable are these leagues in the long run?

    (Aahna was involved in the Player Transfer Transactions of the Indian Super League and have also been involved at various levels with the Indian Badminton League and the Indian Table Tennis League.)

    Along with Mr. Kaushik Moitra, (Partner, TMT Law Practice) the Indian Badminton League in 2013, was the first sports league I worked on. The league failed due to several reasons like mismanagement at venues, lack of staff, the appointed media agency not being proactive, VIPs demanding free tickets and special treatment, state associations not cooperating with the national associations, travel and accommodation being impractical, no itemised budget and being unprofessionalism on the whole. These are some of the most common challenges that are faced at the time of running a league, especially the first season, so all league owners must learn from the IBL 2013 and not make similar mistakes.

    As for viability, it is something that can only be determined in due course of time. The Masters Champions League held in Dubai recently failed to pick up numbers in its first season even though the concept looks very promising. The MCL organizers are hoping that the current cricketers will look at it as an avenue post retirement, so when a Dhoni joins the league on retirement, automatically the numbers will go up, however this again is mere speculation and the question is whether or not they can sustain the league until a Dhoni joins. The Kabaddi League on the other hand did unexpectedly well in the very first season, the ISL picked up a lot of momentum in the second season, so there is no fixed formula for the success of a league.

     

    You were an integral part of Ludus Legal, one half of which has now been absorbed by TMT Law Practice. What does the shift mean for you and how does such a shift impact the clients?

    It has always been a very enriching experience to be working under Mr. Abhishek Malhotra (Managing Partner, TMT Law Practice). He is someone who has constantly encouraged me to pursue my academic interests apart from doing just legal work for my clients. In fact I remember when I started out with TMT Law Practice, immediately after law school, we had a concept of internal presentation of papers. Every alternate Saturday, an associate would present a paper on a new topic and we would then sit and discuss the issue. It always helped in learning something, increasing our industry knowledge and growing as a lawyer and that is why I was more than willing to join them back, when the opportunity arose.

    Like I said above, it is very hard for sports to survive without intellectual property and related areas. TMT Law Practice is a boutique Technology, Media and Telecommunication law firm which can better cater to the needs of a client. The clients only benefit from this shift, as they now have a full service law firm that caters not only to their sports law needs but also offers to them specialists in the intellectual property and media industry. At Ludus, we would often use the services of TMT Law Practice, to file Trademarks for our clients and use Mr. Anish Dayal and Mr. Nitin Mishra as counsels to argue our litigation matters. Now it can all be done hassle free under one roof.

     

    Tell us about the kind of work profile you handle every day. What are the challenges you face and what do you like most about the job.

    On a daily basis, I handle a whole lot of agreements covering different aspects of sports law. I often participate in negotiations between league owners and sports bodies or players and league owners.

    However, what is really challenging is when an athlete comes to me for help in a doping case. On most occasions, the consumption of the banned substance is inadvertent, as the athletes come from humble backgrounds and have not been educated about how a banned substance may enter their body. They start training at an extremely young age hoping to make it to the commonwealth games or Olympics one day and maybe win that one medal, which will not only make the entire country proud but also give them a source of livelihood but just when they are about to make it, they get caught for a doping charge against them. With the new code having increased the punishment to four years, which is as good as resulting in the end of an athlete’s career, there is a lot of pressure to have the punishment of an athlete reduced. You sometimes succeed and you feel on top of the world but there are occasions you fail to get a reduction in the punishment which then tends to take a toll on you as you feel responsible for a sports person’s career coming to an end.

     

    Finally, what would be your parting advice to our readers?

    “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.”- Mark Twain

    Trust your gut, don’t be a part of the rat-race and its okay to sometimes not go by the book.

  • Rajesh Sharma, Founder Director of LetsComply.com, on why legal knowledge is necessary for a CFO

    Rajesh Sharma, Founder Director of LetsComply.com, on why legal knowledge is necessary for a CFO

    Rajesh Sharma passed out as a Bachelor of Commerce from Shaheed Bhagat Singh College, the University of Delhi in 1990. After that, he pursued LLB from the University of Delhi and graduated by 1993. Besides LLB, he also pursued Company Secretary from Institute of Company Secretary of India (ICSI) and Cost & Management Accountants from Institute of Cost and Works Accountants of India (ICWAI) and finished these professional courses in 1993.

    With his qualifications in the realm of law, finance and accounting, he started his versatile work life full of enviable achievements. He started his professional career as Manager – Merchant Banking with Category-1 Merchant Banker, collaborated with the manufacturing company and IT companies before joined as the Founder Members of Singhania and Partners LLP. Afterwards, he was the Head of Finance, Accounts & Legal Department of Global Healthline Private Limited – 98.4, one of the best retail pharmacy chains in North India. He played major role at Barista Coffee Company Limited during his long tenure from 2006 to 2012 as a Chief Finance Officer, wherein he was instrumental not only in setting up all systems and processes for nationwide coffee chain, implemented SAP for retail but he was also key member to get Barista acquired by LAVAZZA, Italian Coffee player. Later, he served as a Group CFO at Carnation Auto India Private Limited; wherein he was instrumental for equity and debt fund raising for setting up multi-brand automobile workshops and used car business. He was Partner with Rajani Singhania & Partners, an international Law Firm. Presently he is Director, Fashion TV Hospitality. He founded Juris NextGen LLP and Affari Consulting, Inc. in 2010 and 2011, respectively.

    Finally, being an emerging entrepreneur, he founded LetsComply.com, which is a technology driven platform in India to provide world-class, affordable and convenient professional services relating to legal, finance & taxation at one click under the guidance of an experienced team of professionals, whose knowledge & credentials are proven.

    An independent entrepreneur with a string of achievements at a very young age, Rajesh Sharma talks about his thoughts, ideas, experiences and advice to young entrepreneurs and students of law and CA.

    In this interview, we cover his academic and professional journey, while focusing on:

    • The combination of his qualification in B.Com, LL.B, C.S. and CMA.
    • Varied work experience as a CFO, Founder Members and Director of various companies.
    • Part of Startups, provided Legal, Finance & Taxation support to create systems and processes and helped them to raise funds and now providing mentorship to various startups directly as well as through various incubation centres.

    How would you introduce yourself to our readers? Please tell us about your pre-college days.

    I belong to a very middle class & humble family. In spite of not been able to get the education from Big B-Schools, it is the learning by experience and connectivity with grass-roots for work with qualitative education; I could able to achieve this position.

    What plans did you have for your future? What inspired you to embark on this entrepreneurial journey?

    I feel blessed and fortunate that in spite of limited resources, I find myself at the pinnacle of my career by achieving and delivering good as a Legal & Finance professional. Now, I think this is the time to give back what I have achieved throughout my entire life and career. I got myself associated with a couple of incubation centres, NGOs and other bodies wherein I provide my services as Mentor to the new entrepreneur for their entrepreneurship journey. India is providing an excellent environment for startups, enormous options and opportunities available to the young entrepreneurs, and hence, I am also contributing to my best.

    How important is it for a law firm partner to be good at business development, or are great lawyering skills enough to become a partner? What skills or qualities distinguish the people who become partner from those who don’t?

    Being an entrepreneur, it is not necessary to be a good worker, he/she has to be a good leader at the same point in time. While he/she should be able to understand and manage with expertise, but should be able to manage a good team as well.

    Having done B.Com, what motivated you to choose law along with CS and CMA as a career?

    Though it is obvious, if you want any professional degree beyond graduation. Since I had interest both in Legal & Finance domain, therefore I opted for both courses (also since not having proper guidance, I chose two courses to have backup, if I could not make one)

    What challenges did you face while serving as a CFO at several companies? How did you overcome those challenges?

    Challenges are of multiple kinds, being cost controller and always pushing for implementation of system & process; CFO faces challenges from external as well as internal members of your own organization. No one like to listen no for the money and everybody realizes in the last working hour, therefore, to push your own team members to go to the system and processes, you actually develop negative relationship with your peer group but once you explain and help them to implement these methods, they like and start implementing these processes.

    You’re the Founder Director of LetsComply.com. Please tell us about LetsComply.com.

    LetsComply is the only technology driven platform in India to provide world-class, convenient and affordable professional services relating to legal, finance & taxation at one click.  LetsComply provides services under the guidance of an experienced team of professionals, whose unimpeachable expertise, backed by proven credentials, needs no emphasis.

    In pursuance of our humble resolve to serve, we have always looked for the ways and means to make it easier for the entrepreneurs and corporate establishments to function better, and we realized that since the world is progressing and taking online route to grow and expand, it would go a long way if we could provide Legal, Financial & Taxation services in a structured fashion with the assistance of a team of experts without making it too expensive or inconvenient. That’s how the idea of LetsComply germinated.

    We, at LetsComply, are committed to help entrepreneurs and business owners to start, manage and grow their businesses by taking care of the legal, financial & taxation side of the business so as to allow them to focus on innovation and expansion without having to fret over compliance issues, which certainly matter a great deal and can’t be left unattended.

    We aim to be a partner in the entire business lifecycle at all stages of the entrepreneurship — Startup, Growth, Acceleration & Progression Stage — to make sure that the businesses do not fall back on compliances and grow manifold. In today’s Digital world, we bring you the concept of Virtual Intelligence by way of Virtual CFO (vCFO) and Virtual General Counsel services to enable accelerated growth to your business. We are a team of experienced Chartered Accountants, Company Secretaries, Cost Accountants, Corporate Lawyers, Management Graduates, IP Attorneys and Technologists ready to assist you at all times.

    I believe that today when the world is moving towards a higher technological and economic order, allowing oneself to be bogged down by various mandatory compliances is a waste of precious time and energy. It cannot be ignored that the statutory compliances have a very significant role to play in sustaining the business environment conducive to fair competition and commercial growth. Therefore, it is essential to be cautious about the compliance of various statutes at the initial stage itself to not only avoid later complications and harassment but also to contribute to the sustenance of a healthy business ecosystem. And to keep you comfortable with all the compliances, the professionals at LetsComply are always ready to extend any and every assistance that you might require in this regard.

    How do you plan to expand LetsComply.com regarding operations, infrastructure, as well as attracting more investments? Can we expect a mobile app in forthcoming time?

    We have just started and thrilled with the response we are getting from our users. Therefore, we have preponed our plans for expansion. Operationally, our offerings are quite wide, but we need to create the infrastructure to execute and deliver that. We are working not only to create and set up additional office space but also developing technology team as well. Though for operations, we may not need investments but to expand rapidly and to bring technology and marketing we would need investments. We are not aggressively losing for funding unless we get right partner. Yes, you can certainly expect mobile app.   

    You have a vital role in several companies by providing them a tremendous boost in their business. What are the key areas a Startup needs to focus on?

    The major need for any startup is to focus on execution and have the right partner in place. They should focus on their core activities without losing any attention.

    As you have recently addressed a conference on ESOP in Amity Innovation Incubator, please tell us how does ESOP work as a good tool for startups?

    ESOP is genuinely a very tool to attract & retain the right talent. You can attract talent with entrepreneurship mindset to grow fast.

    How important would you say are business development skills at such higher roles in a corporate law firm?

    Growth is never ending. One should always be hungry for growth so as Business Development skills are. The leader has to lead by examples, and he should always be upfront about facing challenges. Unless the Leader fights from the front, he cannot ask his army to step forward on the battle ground.

    Lastly, what would be your advice to students and young entrepreneurs reading this interview?

    Life moves forward like a “Business Cycle”, wherein phases such as ‘Peak’ and ‘Trough’ are ubiquitous. One needs to establish one’s stand at those stages. If he/she is tangled in the Trough Phase, there is nothing to blame upon. Be focused, there is no shortcut to success. Efforts never go waste. If everything seems to be on his/her side during the Peak Phase, there is nothing to claim upon. Keep your thirst for growth alive and continue to move forward with the same.

     

  • Rajesh Singh, Legal Advisor, on pursuing a career as a Managing Partner of R&S Associates

    Rajesh Singh, Legal Advisor, on pursuing a career as a Managing Partner of R&S Associates

    Rajesh has more than 19 years of versatile and enriching international experience advising corporate clients, CEOs, management members, boards, and business heads. He has worked in the role of General Counsel (South Asia) at 3i Infotech, Associate General Counsel at Capgemini. He has been legal adviser at senior levels in various MNCs, SMEs, and SSIs. He has been instrumental and trusted adviser in various assignments dealing with M&As, NeGP(PPP), international arbitration, dispute resolutions, Private Equity, M&A integrations issues, Labour unrest and unions matters, various matters at Ministry/EOW/Custom/DRI/ Authority, Company formation and registration (Singapore, ME & other Asian countries), data protection/privacy laws, Antitrust/Competition laws, litigations and advisory services for his organization in association with Amarchand&Mangaldas, DLA Piper, DH Law, JayeshAshar, Somandy and Associates,  Little and Company and so on.

    In this interview he talks to us about:

    • His decision to pursue law.
    • His views on career choices.
    • His experience as a corporate lawyer.
    • His advice to go for higher studies.

    How would you introduce yourself, given that most of our readers are law students, law aspirants or professionals in the legal arena?

    For my fraternity, I am one of their fellowship members consistently learning to strike a differentiator when had to compete with each of you at any stage of my life. When it comes to consolidating my energy, effort, and experience, I would like to be called as an astute corporate lawyer with 2 decades of exposure to fortunate opportunities of some international experience. My consolidation of knowledge primarily came from legal-advisory exposures on various corporate and legal activities that governed various businesses, industry, and geography, for the sake of brevity coined as “LexAdvisory”. Today, individually gaining core expertise in all aspects of LexAdvisory is practically not possible for an individual, so it is important to have a team of experts to stand behind an individual under the umbrella of an international advisory firm, like mine RSAA GLocalLexAdvisory Group….remember this is just a beginning.

    You are a B.Com graduate from the University of Mumbai. How did you decide to pursue LL.B.?

    To be frank, in those days of my initial career, my intention was to be part of management hence had immediately done Diploma in Business Management from Indian Merchant Chambers. I had no path to have a career in law. My work, assignments, and some personal and organizational challenge compelled me to do law, further to add, my attitude to have control over the assignment. I found, major snag was legal issues and challenges surrounding the assignment, so completed my law with my employment…

    How well did your experience in Mumbai prepare you for a life of academic prestige and professional success?

    Now, at this stage, after meeting law aspirants from various parts of globe, including the rural, remote and less fluent English speaking areas, I believe being in Mumbai or any similar city will always be to your advantage as the exposure to real-life incidents, ready infra, and occasions of deliberations always going to be a rich experience. Major change in me happened when I started working for global MNCs, because the perspective of life, changes when you enter into a multi-cultural environment. It grooms you differently, by influencing your thoughts, communication, stature, and appearance. It gives a different outlook to yourself and imbibes things to see the world through glass of multi-cultural professional approach, knowledge composition, and personal attitude towards clients (including internal clients) and also “Altitude”, I coined a new personal feature because I felt a point of difference in opinion of astute lawyers of different country not due to legal knowledge but the point of reference from where they see the applicability and feasibility, due to our respective knowledge-peak heights achieved in our respective legal jurisdiction or cultural and environmental sphere each of us belong to; or society that we belong that either regarded smaller issues in one country as high while another country discarded it low, e.g., Data protection laws are different from different countries and seriousness varies accordingly.

    What were the influences on your decision to pursue MBA in Human Resources? Why didn’t you opt for MBA after graduation?

    I was holding all portfolios jointly in a corporate support function and to pursue  highest qualification in Human Resource would help me count as qualified all round. During those days, I was dealing with massive industrial and personnel issues which were unnecessarily chewing away my time. I felt I lacked in understanding issues of management and personnel and at many times could not authoritatively provide solutions to blue-coloured and white-coloured differences. My intention was to stand as an adviser to the management board to tackle all corporate and legal issues; personnel issues were bothering me. I could not stand differentiator in my personal view while convincing management with a workaround was not making me happy.

    What are your views on career choices other than mainstream corporate or litigation streams such as teaching, etc.?

    Today, the corporates have started eying on lawyers to move in the business stream and contribute to business growth and expansion due to their legal analysis, meticulous practice, and advisory skills, taking risk stands minimized at the decision level itself far away to reach this stage but the world is progressing towards the same. Alternately, every individual should get involved in other streams of a career like teaching, etc., may be after gathering some work experience at corporate, law firms and independent practice because that will help relating knowledge with reality and make teaching more attractive and attentive for law students. The legal field itself is so broad that there is no need to move outside the legal stream.

    You have been a corporate lawyer for most of your career. What prompted you to take up corporate law? Share with us any experience which helped you to shape your career choices.

    In my view, corporate lawyer enjoys the power to advise business heads and largely is in a position to influence a decision of management wherever legal and compliance issues are a concern. Surprisingly, amateur corporate counsel also gets an opportunity to advise business heads in most of the corporate structure due to our ability to understand the law better than them and also professional independence is given in our day to day activity. It is your personal inquests and quests that helps you to choose the legal area that you would like to specialize in. The majority of corporate work largely deals with contract drafting and managing litigation in most of the organizations. Few organizations do have an opportunity to go into IPR, M&A, IPO, Financial Arrangements, etc. I have been fortunate to get all of these opportunities at strategic and compliance level, making my knowledge-base versatile, penetrative and probing.

    What falls within the scope of your responsibility? Tell us about a typical work day.

    In addition to above, as managing partner of international law firm, typical work day goes on strategic and management decision to structure the organization, improve the quality of service, monitor the vision and mission, inculcate good practices, motivate the team to support clients and give spontaneous advice to management or CEOs or Managing Directors of the organizations identified as a core clients. In personal observation supervise crucial and critical litigation to get appropriate knowledge and experience to tackle proceedings legally and administratively.

    What is the most challenging or stressful part of being a Partner at one of the most successful law firms in the country? Is it easy to have a work-life balance?

    Obviously, stress is part of your life be as an associate or as a partner because success of a law firm depends on how your conduct is with your client?; what knowledge and experience that you can bring to the pleadings, drafting and arguments? Besides, the challenge of face value in the court, unheard urgencies, few seconds to decide your interim success or failure may discourage your client to count on you even if you have the best army to succeed in a long run. All set and done, if you love your work, you can enjoy the challenges and heal your frustration through your internal mingling and by a sip of tea/coffee or by breathing out the failure and breath in the next moment to move towards your next achievement. Many times, time does not permit you to enjoy your success or cry on your failure as the clock of cyclic success and failure is so much inconsistent that you cannot carry one emotion for long.  Work-life balance is not a myth; you can achieve if you can start your day early and follow a disciplined method to retrieve your information and knowledge.

    What kind of effort should a young associate put into work to get it appreciated? What distinguishes an associate from a partner when it comes to work?

    There is no limit or difference in the effort; your contribution decides your fate and success as an associate. More the partner relies on your work and effort; the less the partner will supervise the associate work. Almost everything is expected to be done by the Associate under guidance and supervision of Sr. Associates, Partner or Sr. Partner. Largely, the scope is drafting, analyzing facts, and research the relevance to withstand weakness and strengthen merits of your matter.

    How important would you say are business development skills at such higher roles in a corporate law firm?

    Knowing the business is very advantageous at any stage of your career, because as a corporate lawyer, the more you know your business higher is the chance of bringing an appropriate solutions or advice. The business heads or management appreciates such corporate lawyer who can bridge law and business on a platter in such a way that both corporate lawyers and business can understand their perceptions and perspective. Besides business skills, the corporate lawyer should also work towards improving its Interpersonal skills, simplified and crisp communication skills. Team Spirit plays a vital role in large. And complex assignments as a collaboration of work is crucial to complete the larger picture as expected by the management within an expected timelines and quality.

    When you hire lawyers under you, what specific skills and profile do you look for?

    Already covered above, to broadly mention, drafting, knowledge seeker, independent in thoughts, out of box thinker, ready to work with right attitude, have excellent and simplified method of communications, ability to demonstrate and express his thoughts in clean and clear way, negotiation skills, etc

    If I want to be a legal advisor how would I go?

    Every aspirant should identify and understand legal and statutory compliance of the industry that you are focussing on. Gather relevant knowledge, team of business and legal experts working on challenges of the Industry, and form part of a forum that can either influence industry legislation or influence legislators by your thoughts, suggestions, recommendation, and actions. Once you have initiated in the above manner, invest your time to peruse legislation affecting such industry and observe live court proceedings in this regard. Peruse case laws and FAQs available on the websites of court and authority (you can refer various other means to get case research materials), to understand regular challenges faced and dealt by that Industry. This kind of development will help you to mature your understanding in respect of business nuances, court’s perspective (Ratio decidendi of the decision taken by various courts or counter arguments placed by other pleaders to understand the strength of your pleadings) and market dynamics. Focus one industry at a time. Target another similar industry, which is logically a business extension of the industry you focused on e.g. ITeS to IT, BPO to LPO, IT to Software Technology then Mobile Technology. Similarly, the logical expansion, in the process of knowledge gathering, is to experience litigation through Business Contracts by way of handling disputes under Alternate Dispute Resolution (eg Arbitration or mediation forming part of Contract; you can further deep dive in this area covering domestic and international arena of every country your organization operates its business); further to add, Contracts, generally, branches out to various legislation or points out to foreign legislation by way of its terms and conditions, hence, review of such clauses should be analysed in the light of such legislation to assess the risk and recommend mitigation plan or compliances there under.

    What would be your advice to students who wish to go for higher studies?

    Industry or legal area focussed diplomas or courses will help recruiter acknowledge your intent to practice in particular industry and legal areas. In India, degree in law, master degree in business administration (if you intend to practice as an in-house corporate lawyer) or master degree in law for practice in court; and any other diploma or courses will always be an added advantage. The student should work during their studies to ensure that business and practical sense is developed while studying and most of the reading will settle in your mind as your wisdom or knowledge.

    What would be your message to our readers who are budding lawyers and law students?

    Budding Lawyers and Law Students should be sincere, hardworking, knowledge seeker, opportunist, aggressive in work and humble in approach and communication; ethical and professional in conduct and approach, good listener, preach what you practice, and finally should have ability to convey your thoughts. Never believe that what you lost after your sincere attempts are the last opportunity for your life.

     

  • Roumita Dey, Associate, Agama Law Associates, on how to represent clients on behalf of the firm

    Roumita Dey, Associate, Agama Law Associates, on how to represent clients on behalf of the firm

    Roumita Dey graduated from Jogesh Chandra Chodhuri Law College (under the aegis of Calcutta University), Kolkata in 2015. At present, she is practicing corporate law at Agama Law Associates and represents clients on behalf of the firm on a daily basis.

    She drafts legal notices, legal responses, the case for opinion, Service Provider Agreement, Leave and License Agreement, IT contracts, Response/Counter-claim, etc. and is doing research work in all areas of law using Manupatra, SCC Online, Think Legal, Indian Kanoon, etc. research engines.

    She also writes articles on various areas of corporate law on a monthly basis for the firm’s blog and contributes legal updates/day-to-day legal developments in the industry in the update session

    In this interview she talks to us about:

    • Her experiences during the internships.
    • Primary essentials of a good corporate lawyer.
    • The kind of interest one needs to pursue law.
    • Current scenario of studying corporate law as a career option in India.

    What brought you into studying law as your profession?   

    I am a first generation lawyer in my family. I have chosen Humanities in my Class XII board exams and successfully passed with higher grades. Law was never in my mind that time. I was more inclined to do a simple graduation course and decided to pursue MBA later in my future. My father is a business person, and we have a family lawyer cum family friend who advises my father with regards to property related matters and also his business. My parents visited the district court in Kolkata for the purpose of property registration a couple of times and gradually influenced by seeing the lawyers advising their clients and arguing inside the courtroom. As a result, they encouraged me to take up law seriously, and I believe that my parents have seen that spark in my eyes that I was born to become a lawyer. However, I sat for the LL. B joint entrance examination of Calcutta University and have secured good rank and enrolled at Jogesh Chandra Choudhuri Law College, under the aegis of Calcutta University. To be very frank, I chose law pretty accidentally. It was more like law have chosen me and brought me into this profession. However, after enrolling myself in the B.A.LL.B course, I have started achieving good marks in the subjects and interned in big firms one after another and today I am a qualified lawyer practicing corporate law.

    Any remarkable experiences during your internships that shaped your career choices later?

    Yes, indeed the experience of working with different law firms helped me to take the proper decision of which law to specialize to flourish in my profession or I may say internship experiences shaped my career choices later on. I have done two litigation internships, where I was mostly allotted work relating to assisting senior advocate to draft affidavits, rejoinder, legal notices and to accompany senior associates to the court. Apart from these two litigation internships, I have also interned under a senior advocate of the district and sessions court (Kolkata) to gain knowledge of how the district court works, or I may say to witness the life of a litigant. However, frankly, I have not explored much during my internship days. However, after doing litigation internships, I have applied for internships in Tier – I firms in India like Trilegal, Amarchand & Mangaldas, a mid-sized law firm like Argus Partners, where I may get the flavor of corporate law. In light thereof, I have successfully interned in the aforementioned law firms and was mostly allotted research work relating to company law, securities and banking law, property law, electricity law and basic drafting work. I was also involved in the due diligence of QIP (‘’Qualified Institutional Placement’’)/due diligence of the private placement of a public company being undertaken under the supervision of the capital markets team of Amarchand & Mangaldas (Delhi Office). It was an excellent opportunity to learn and to get the chance to work with the seniors of one of the elite law firm in India. Trilegal also was another enriching experience to learn how to take the advantage of research engines and how to conduct research on case laws. These internships made me realize that corporate law is the field to explore, and there is a lot for me to learn in this field. Hence, I wanted to join a corporate law firm after graduation to be able to realize my potentiality in this field.

    What do you think is the kind of interest or aptitude one needs to pursue law?

    I am giving a quick snapshot of the abilities and skills/values; one should possess to become a lawyer or those who needs to pursue law in future. I believe the following list of core skills and values would suffice for every budding lawyer:

    1. Inquisitive: A good law student or an aspiring lawyer shall possess an inquisitive nature. Curiosity drives a person to probe and ask revealing questions. The inquisitive attorney will peel back the layers of a case, going deeper, asking for more information. This skill is necessary because it is often the small, unnoticed details that can make or break a case.  A good lawyer asks questions because they are not satisfied with accepting surface information. They know there may be more facts underneath the evidence presented.  Their inquisitive nature will push them to uncover that information.                                                                        
    2. Problem Solving Abilities: Being a problem solver is one of the root skills of any attorney. People hire lawyers because they either have a problem or are trying to avoid one. Possessing excellent problem-solving skills allow the lawyer to find solutions even when none are immediately apparent.
    3. Symptomatic Reading: Attorneys will have to read a great deal of material when they take on a client. It may be court documents, witness testimony, contracts, case law, or a myriad of other text. It is easy for anyone to skim over the information and take it at face value. Unfortunately, this can prove detrimental to a client. Moreover, law students or whoever would like to pursue law have to make a habit of reading much stuff.                                                                                                   
    4. Writing Skill: Having the ability to write well lays a solid foundation for all the documents a lawyer must write such as arguments, contracts, and legal letters.                                                                                             Written communication is a primary way that information is distributed and recorded.
    5. Conversation/ Articulation Abilities– Just as writing skills are essential, so too are verbal skills. An attorney will find it necessary to shift gears in their verbal communication style. One day they may need to speak in an authoritative manner with persuasive speech during an important trial. The next day a lawyer may need to meet with a grieving widow requiring sympathetic conversation in reassuring tones. Conversation skills are more than just the ability to say the right words. The words also need to be expressed in a proper manner.                              
    6. General Investigation/Research Skills: Law students and attorneys have to spend hours investigating and researching information for clients. Attorneys must be able to know how to perform research with speed and accuracy, and confidence in the authority of the source. If they do not know where to look for the right kind of information; their research may be flawed and inaccurate. If an attorney cannot investigate quickly, they may get bogged down and unnecessarily waste much time.    
    7. Organization / Management Skills: The attorney will also need to possess excellent time management skills. They will need to stay aware of deadlines, meeting schedules, court dates, and travel itinerary. Even simple cases will require some level of calendared items. Most attorneys will have to balance several of cases at once. This requires a high degree of time management and organizational skills

    What are the primary essentials of a good corporate lawyer? How do you say a fresh graduate can work on building these skills?

    In a nutshell, the primary essentials of a good corporate lawyer are as follows:

    1. Collaboration skills
    2.    Emotional intelligence
    3.    Financial literacy
    4.    Project management
    5.    Self-driven
    6.    Technological affinity
    7.    Time management, and,
    8. Hard working.

    A fresh law graduate should work rough day to earn these skills mentioned above along with lots of patience and effort.

    How can one learn to draft a legal notice?

    To draft a legal notice one should be aware of the relevant provisions of the Companies Act, 2013. If the notice is regarding asking information from the Company as a shareholder, i.e., ‘’Requisition Notice’’, then one should refer the provisions of Companies Act concerning inspection of books of accounts, register of members, financial statements, etc. If the notice is regarding mismanagement of the company, one should refer the relevant provisions of the Companies Act concerning oppression and mismanagement and should be aware of the Term Sheet of such company. If the notice is regarding employee dispute, one should be aware of the clauses of the employment agreement. Additionally, to draft a legal notice related to company disputes one should refer AOA & MOA of the Company along with the correspondences shared between the persons concerned.

    How can one legally update himself?

    One should spend time every day at least for half an hour to go through the websites like PRS Legislative, SEBI, RBI, MCA, CCI, IIPRD, etc. to update himself legally.

    Corporate Law sometimes comes with a humongous workload. What made you gravitate towards this field? How do you manage the workload and your personal life?

    To be very frank, for a fresher like me, personal life became a secondary or the least thing to bother at the moment. My priority is work and to learn stuff as much as I can to grow in this field. I work beyond my job hours and even in weekdays to finish my stuff. I never regret not attending my cousin’s wedding or other family events because of my engagement with my work. Corporate law is indeed very stressful for a fresher to pick up the work and learn from the senior associate or a partner in any organization. Frankly, I do not know how to balance work life and personal life together. I am not the perfect person to give advice on how to manage the workload and your personal life. However, one should take a break and refresh himself/herself whenever he/she can.

    What should a student do so that he gets placed in a reputed firm?

    1. A law student should have good CV with a handful of good internships, paper publications, and other extra-curricular activities to get selected for the interview at any reputed law firm.
    2. After getting selected for an interview, a law student, whoever apply to reputed law firms, should crack the interview at first go.
    3. I think, after cracking the interview in one go, half of the battle is won by him/her to get placed in a prominent law firm.

    Did you find that your law school education had prepared you sufficiently for the many tasks you were required to execute during your internships and later at your job?

    To be very frank and honest, I have studied in a traditional law school and hence, it did not prepare me for the tasks which I am required to do in the course of my employment with a law firm. Internships have given me the overview of how the law firm works and what kind of work an associate should do while working with a law firm after the graduation. I have simply learned from the scratch with respect to drafting and how to do an exhaustive research, from my partner of the law firm, where I presently work as an Associate. My partner teaches me every day from writing an email to the client to draft any document and what the exact format should be for drafting. She also taught me how to keep track of the clients’ mandates and how to keep myself legally updated to survive in this rat race of lawyers, and that is how I grow as a lawyer.  I think most of the fresher like me, whoever studied in any traditional law school learn everything from the scratch in the workplace where they join after their graduation.

     

  • Ankur Mishra, Associate Attorney, on how to draft patent specifications for Indian, Malaysian and Canadian Patent Office

    Ankur Mishra, Associate Attorney, on how to draft patent specifications for Indian, Malaysian and Canadian Patent Office

    Ankur Mishra graduated from KIIT University, Bhubaneshwar in 2013. At present, he is an Associate Attorney at KAnalysis Legal, New Delhi.

     

    He has an experience in drafting patent specifications for Indian, Malaysian and Canadian Patent Office. He drafts responses to objections in patent applications and conducts patent prior art search and trademark search. He also prepares Patent application, Trademark application, Copyright and Design registration applications.

     

    In this interview he talks to us about:

    • The importance of Science background for patent drafting and prosecution.
    • The importance of choosing honors in IP during LL.B. course.
    • The strategy before drafting and filing a patent application to avoid potential infringement.
    • Obtaining patent protection in foreign countries.

     

    Most of our readers are young lawyers and law students. How will you introduce yourself to them?

     

    Current Association: Associate Attorney at KAnalysis Legal, New Delhi. I graduated in B.Sc. LL.B (Hons. in IP) from Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology (KIIT) University, Bhubaneswar in 2013. It is very important for a law student to decide the interested area of law in which they feel interested and comfortable to pursue their career. Since I opted for B.Sc.LL.B with biotech as a major subject in B.Sc., interest for Patents and general I.P developed in me. During the second year of the course, the students should focus on the interested area of law which they decide for their career. I decided to honors in Intellectual Property Law after the second year during my LL.B course. I interned at several I.P Law firms in their patents and trademark department which provided me the opportunity to learn the practical aspects of the I.P Law and then I was able to appreciate the theoretical knowledge with practical skills required for patent drafting and strategy for I.P rights. After completion of my LL.B course, I have been associated with I.P law firm in New Delhi and working in the areas of Patents, Design, and Trademarks law since 2013.

     

    Why is Science background necessary for patent drafting and prosecution?

     

    Science background is important for the drafting of a patent application and prosecution because generally the patent applications comprise of scientific terms. The drafter should have a sound knowledge of the scientific terms in order to draft an excellent patent application and provide the best disclosure without any confusion in the minds of the examiner examining the application. If the drafter understands the scientific terms, then he/she is able to appreciate the invention much better throughout the specification. Science background helps you appreciate the different compositions, parts, components or methods of the inventions. An invention may comprise of various scientific knowledge, methods or components which the inventor has disclosed to you along with the invention, but they all cannot be claimed, having a science background here will help you to highlight the portions of the inventions to be claimed. Science background helps you in preparing your submissions before the examiner during prosecution of the patent application. It helps you differentiate your invention from the other already existing prior arts.

     

    What is the importance of choosing honors in IP during LL.B. course?

     

    IP is an emerging field; IP plays an important role in today’s competitive world. A company with strong IP rights can flourish with a tremendous speed in the market. Companies, industries, and commercial organizations are becoming more diligent about protecting their IP rights and hence there is, and there will be demand for IP professionals in the legal field too. Choosing for honors in IP will provide students gain much deeper knowledge than the general IP course because in IP honors almost all the areas of IP are taught elaborately which will help during practical implementation. Since IP law is an emerging area in the market, those who are opting for IP honors will always be preferred in the IP industry.

     

    What is the importance of internships at IP Law firms?

     

    Internships in IP law firms provide the students to learn the practical aspects of IP Law. Internships provide the basic practical knowledge and skills required for starting a career in IP Law. Internships in IP law firms provide the student to learn the rules and regulations to draft and prosecute the IP applications. There are several forms which need to be filled and filed along with the IP applications in compliance with various Rules; internships provide exposure to those Rules and forms.

     

    What should be the strategy for drafting and filing a patent application to avoid potential infringement?

     

    The attorney should run extensive prior art search in order to determine the novelty of the invention. Sometimes it happens that the invention thought to be a novel by the inventor is available in the prior arts. If the invention is similar to already patented inventions, then it will result in infringement of the already existing patent. Analyzing the prior arts prevents the applicant from the huge loss of money and time if the invention is not novel because litigation and attorney fee may cause a huge expenditure to the applicant in case of infringement. So it is advisable that the applicant must always ask the attorney to do a detailed prior art search and provide an analysis of the similarities and differences between their invention and the prior arts. The applicant must analyze the Prior Art Report provided by the attorney and accordingly decide the future course of action.

     

    When should I begin investigating the patentability of my idea?

     

    The moment the inventor develops the idea for invention he\ she should immediately start searching for the relevant prior arts and determine the novelty of their invention. Delay in investigating the patentability may result in losing time and money to the inventor.

     

    What is the first step to obtaining a patent?

     

    The first step to obtaining a patent is to file a provisional patent application as soon as possible and then work on the invention thoroughly to file a complete specification within 12 months from the date of filing the provisional application.

     

    How long does it take to get a patent?

     

    It takes around three to four years in India and US to obtain a patent.

     

    Someone else is making or selling my patented device. What should I do?

     

    There are few steps required to be taken before determining the actual infringement by another party. First, you should compare your patent with that of the infringer’s products. It sometimes happens that the infringing product or method might seem to be the same as the patented one but they might very well different in the technical aspects. Secondly, the patentee should compare his/ her claims with infringing products or methods; then the patentee has options to proceed legally against the infringer. The patentee can send a ‘cease and desist notice’ to the infringer demanding immediate withdrawal from manufacturing and selling the products. The patentee may then offer the infringer to enter into patent licensing agreement. If the infringer agrees to enter into a licensing agreement, then it will benefit the patentee regarding royalty. If the infringer does not comply with the cease and desist notice then, in that case, the patentee has the right to file in an infringement suit against the infringer and claim monetary damages as well as an injunction.

     

    I would like to obtain patent protection in foreign countries. How should I proceed?

     

    For obtaining patent protection in foreign countries, the inventor should file foreign application within 12 months from filing the initial patent application which the applicant wants to take as a priority. The inventor can also file a single patent application under the Patent Cooperation Treaty (PCT Application) and take it as priority application to file a patent in signatory countries. The applicant after filing PCT application should file a national application in signatory countries within 30 months from the date of PCT application (31 months in a case of European Patent Office). The inventor can also directly file a foreign application with the respective Patent Office of any country where he/ she desires to obtain patent protection.

     

    What is the proper way to use a trademark?

     

    Before adopting any mark as a trademark for any product or services the applicant should first determine the availability of the mark to be used as a trademark. The applicant should request the attorney to conduct a search for the similar trademarks already applied, registered or is already being used by another party. If the mark is not being used, applied or registered by anyone then in that case the applicant should immediately file the trademark application. The applicant should use the applied mark extensively and if possible, should show the prior use of minimum three years before filing the trademark application. However, the applicant can also file a trademark application comprising any mark, logo or device which is proposed to be used by the applicant in future.

     

    Who can register a trademark?

     

    Any person including organization, associations or company who has been using the mark or intent to use the mark in future may apply for trademark registration.

     

    What are the steps to trademark registration?

     

    Steps to trademark registration are:

    (1)  Filing of a trademark application with a prescribed fee of Rs.4000.

    (2)  Issuance of an application number by the registry.

    (3)  Examination of the application.

    (4)  Issuance of an examination report comprising objections of the registry.

    (5)  Filing written response to the objections raised by the registry.

    (6)  Appearing in hearing. The applicant may also file an affidavit of use with supporting documents during the hearing.

    (7)   If the application is accepted, the registry will issue Letter of Acceptance and publish the mark in official trademark journal. The trademark application is open for the opposition after publication; the opposition should be filed within four months from the publication date. If there is no opposition, then the registry will issue the registration certificate.

     

    What guarantee is there that an application won’t be rejected?

     

    There is no such guarantee. There are several grounds prescribed under the Trademarks Act for refusal and removal of a trademark. If the trademark application abides by all the conditions and rules required for registration then, in that case, there are 100% chances of registration.

     

    What should be your advice to our readers?

     

    Intellectual Property Law is an emerging area as a career for law students. One who wishes to pursue IP as a career must be focused and shall study specialized course in IP. If a student possesses science background, then it becomes a bit easy for him/ her to draft and prosecute patent applications. Trademarks, Designs, and Copyrights are other IP areas which do not require much technical background, knowledge of general IP laws will help. Students should pursue internships in IP law firms to get practical knowledge about IP applications and their prosecutions.

    Individuals and corporates should be very diligent about their IP rights and should take all the measures to protect them because in today’s world ‘everything is IP and IP is everything’.

     

  • Pallavi Sharma, Judicial Magistrate, Rewa, Madhya Pradesh on preparing for the Judiciary and work at National Insurance

    Pallavi Sharma, Judicial Magistrate, Rewa, Madhya Pradesh on preparing for the Judiciary and work at National Insurance

    Pallavi Sharma graduated from National Law University, Jodhpur in 2012. Soon thereafter, she started studying and working hard for the Judicial Services exam for various Hindi speaking states. Even while preparing, she decided to utilise the most of her time and worked as a legal officer in a PSU for a brief period. Currently posted as a Judicial Magistrate at Rewa, MP, Pallavi shares the following in this interview with SuperLawyer:

    • Reasons for joining the judiciary and her ever strong desire to make a difference in the society
    • Rational behind attempting PSU exams and experience as a legal officer in a PSU
    • Strategy followed and material used for the judicial exams
    • Experience of giving the interview for the judiciary
    • Advice to budding lawyers looking at attempting the judiciary exams

     

    Tell us a bit about yourself.

    I am Pallavi, a 2012 graduate from National Law University, Jodhpur. I worked as a legal officer with National Insurance Company Limited for around six months and have just left the organisation to join Madhya Pradesh Judicial Services. Currently, I’m posted as a Civil Judge/Judicial Magistrate at Rewa, Madhya Pradesh. I’m a sports fanatic. I love every sport and I would do almost anything to meet Rahul Dravid.

     

    Are you a first generation lawyer in your family? What were your ambitions before joining law? What led to your inclination towards law?

    Yes I’m a first generation lawyer in my family. To be honest, law was never my first choice. I had taken up science in XI and XII standard and was actually preparing for engineering. In fact, I wasn’t even very sure about engineering so I took both Mathematics and Biology in XI, XII hoping to soon figure out which way to go. In a few months I realized these subjects don’t interest me at all. Hence, I decided to pursue law. By fortune I got into NLU, Jodhpur and now I’m very glad I pursued law.

     

    How was your time at NLU Jodhpur?

    It was a lifetime experience. It took me a while to settle down but I soon got used to the place and loved every moment thereafter. NLU, Jodhpur provides a variety of opportunities to its students. I wasn’t much into mooting or debates but I found cultural and sports activities there really interesting. The cultural and sports week were my favourite two weeks of college every year.

     

    Prior to entering law school, did you ever wish to be a Judge? What motivated you to apply for judicial exams?

    No, judicial exams were not something I decided to write before entering law school. It was only during law school I decided to appear for this exam. Initially I only planned to appear for Delhi Judicial Services Exam but I soon realized the high level of uncertainty with these exams and hence decided to appear for a couple of other states as well. I wanted to make a difference and I thought judiciary will not only give me a perfect opportunity for that but would also allow me to remain associated with the field of law.

     

    How did you decide to take a plunge and prepare for judicial exams straight after graduation? Was it a difficult decision?

    It wasn’t a difficult decision for me. By the end of college I was quite sure that I wanted to prepare for judicial exams and I thought it’s always better to start right after college when one is in the habit of studying. Soon after college I joined a coaching institute in Delhi and started my preparation.

     

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    You also worked at National Insurance Company Limited as a Legal Officer for a while, please tell us about your time there.

    While preparing for judicial exams I also appeared for a few PSU exams. I got selected for the post of Administrative Officer (legal) in National Insurance Company Limited and joined its Divisional Office in Allahabad. Though I worked there only for around six months, I enjoyed every bit of it. There is not much variety in work and it is mostly related to motor accident claims and consumer cases but it’s nonetheless interesting work. And as a young officer in the company I got immense support from higher authorities which made it easier for me to work there.

     

    You also appeared for a few of the PSU exams, please tell us about your experience preparing for them.

    Most of the PSU exams have the same pattern. To be honest, I did not especially prepare for any of the PSU exams. I decided to appear for these exams while preparing for judicial exams. As I was good at mathematics and reasoning since school, mathematics, aptitude and reasoning parts of the written paper were not very difficult for me. I used to brush up general knowledge and current affairs a couple of days before the exam. But what is most important in these PSU exams is time management. One should make sure they attempt enough questions in every section to secure sectional cut-off marks for every section. Also I would recommend people preparing for judiciary to give such exams even if PSU is not where they want to work because by giving such exams you learn how to manage your time, handle the pressure, etc.

     

    What all do you think is required to be able to crack a PSU exam and get hired by them?

    PSU exams are not very difficult and most of the exams have the same pattern so one doesn’t need to separately prepare for each. Time management, good understanding of basic concepts and practising a few past year papers is all you need to crack a PSU exam.

     

    What motivated you the most to be part of MP State judiciary?

    For me the biggest motivation was to become a judge. The State was always a secondary consideration. I gave exams for almost all Hindi speaking states because in the end all you want to do is help the people irrespective of the State you are in. But having said that, I am very glad I got through MP Judiciary. I have been here multiple times and I find that the people are honest, welcoming and sweet.

     

    When did you start preparing for the exams? When should a person ideally start preparing for the judicial services exam?

    I started preparing for judicial exams right after college and I feel if one is very serious about it then they should start preparing around the same time, if not during college.

     

    How did you prepare for the exam? Which books/materials did you use for preparation?

    My main focus was to first be very clear with the basics of every law paper in the syllabus. I got immense help from the coaching classes that I took. Apart from the class notes that I took during the classes, the case materials, general knowledge and current affairs notes and regular mock tests helped me in my preparation. I did not refer to any book as such for these exams apart from bare acts and class notes but I did refer to a few books in case of a doubt in any topic. And of course reading the newspaper regularly is a must.

     

    How did you remember the sections of the Acts in your syllabus and leading case laws on varied areas of law?

    One should know the important sections and landmark cases of every subject but at the same time it is not necessary to mug up each and every section and case law. What is important is a sound understanding of the concept and the purpose of the law. For the case laws also it is more important to know the ratio of the case instead of remembering the name of the case. It is also important to go through the latest case laws of not only the Supreme Court but also the High Court of the respective State for which one is writing the judicial exam. What also helped me was talking about the law with my friends. I think discussing random sections with your friends will make you remember them for a longer period of time.

     

    Tell us about your interview. How did you prepare yourself for it and what qualities do you think helped you crack the judicial exam? What kind of questions were asked by the panel?

    The interview was conducted by a panel of two High Court judges. For the interview I made sure I properly revise the local laws of MP. Apart from that my main focus was the procedural law. I hardly got around 15 days to prepare for my interview so I could only manage to go through the important sections of all the subjects. The questions asked to me were very basic ones, mostly from CPC and CrPC like summary procedure under CPC and trial procedure under CrPC. One needs to be very calm and confident during the interview and I feel even if you don’t know any answer it’s perfectly fine to just tell the panel that you don’t know the answer instead of making up an answer.

     

    How valuable do you think coaching institutions can be for preparation for judicial exams?

    I took coaching classes at Rahul’s IAS and it helped me a lot in my preparation. It helps in properly focusing on the important parts of the syllabus. It also helps in preparing notes and the regular tests conducted there help in preparing for these exams.

     

    What advice would you give to judicial aspirants? Any message you would like to be passed on to the law students reading this?

    Study hard. Stay focused and don’t stop trying because perseverance pays. Don’t get distracted or feel bad about yourself when you see your friends working, earning and having fun. Your true friends will understand that you are focused and busy. Once you succeed, all the time that you studied while others were having fun will seem worth it. And even if you don’t succeed it’s okay because it’s better to have tried and failed than never to have tried at all.

     

     

  • Shweta Luthra, An independent Legal Consultant, on switching from Corporate Law to Criminal Law

    Shweta Luthra, An independent Legal Consultant, on switching from Corporate Law to Criminal Law

    Shweta Luthra graduated from National University of Juridical Sciences, Kolkata in 2007. Her research, which started in 2011 and is still ongoing, is focused on the socio-legal aspects of fitness to plead and stand trial in English and Indian Courts. It involves a comparative analysis of the trial procedures for defendants who are charged with criminal offences, but are unable to plead or participate in their trial, as a result of mental disabilities.

    She currently acts as the external member on fifteen ICCs and as a legal consultant to many other organisations. She has worked with IISc (Indian Institute of Science), KEONICS, Orange County Hotels and Resorts, Skyway International Tours and Travels, CMCA (Children’s Movement for Civic Awareness), the Nature Conservation Foundation and Quikr. She also provides consulting services to a global technology support company with over 5000 employees in India alone, a global MNC providing customer engagement software and services, and a leading Life Science and High Tech company.

    In this interview she talks to us about:

    • Her areas of interest and developing expertise and knowledge in these fields.
    • Biggest hurdles faced in her career.
    • Her experience at Amarchand & Mangaldas.
    • Her experience as a trainer, legal consultant and external member to ICCs on sexual harassment matters.

     

    How would you like to introduce yourself to our readers?

    I am a legal professional interested in aspects related to human rights, especially those of persons with mental illnesses and victims of sexual harassment, since their issues have not received as much attention (until quite recently) as other issues.
    An Alumni of NUJS, Kolkata (2007 batch), I worked with AMSS Bangalore for two years before deciding to follow my true interests and joined the University of Oxford in 2009 to read for the MSc in Criminology and Criminal Justice (Research Methods).After completing my MSc, I started my Ph.D. at the School of Law, the University of Leicester on a part-time basis, which I am still pursuing.
    Since 2013, I have taught Principles of Criminal Law at Christ Law School, Bangalore as guest faculty and now work with an NGO, SASHA (Support Against Sexual Harassment), where I provide legal consultancy on matters relating to sexual harassment at the workplace.

     

    What inclined you towards legal education?

    As a child, I really enjoyed puzzles and mysteries. As I grew older, this interest moved towards brain teasers, and then towards logical reasoning and analysis. While I would have preferred to become a detective, that did not seem to be a very stable career option! I was also excellent at arguing (not just debating) and seriously considered becoming a criminal lawyer. When I got accepted at NUJS, studying law seemed like an excellent career prospect.

     

    What were your areas of interest while you were in law school? How did you go about developing expertise and knowledge in these areas?

    What I found most interesting at law school, was criminal law. What I did not realise then, was that my interest lay more towards the psychological aspects of crime and the socio-legal aspects of criminal law, rather than substantive or procedural law – why certain acts are considered to be criminal; why the same acts and behaviours that are punishable offences in some countries, are not criminalised in others? Most importantly, why, despite knowing that an act would result in punishment, people still continue to commit crimes?

    I was not at all sure where I would go with these interests. When you think of criminal law, you immediately think “litigation”, as did I. To that end a majority of my internships were with litigating lawyers – at all courts (trial to Supreme Court), and while I enjoyed trial court litigation most, I was not convinced enough to make a career out of it.

    By 3rd year, my interest took me towards criminology (which I chose as an elective), and during my summer vacation, I decided to conduct some research on the treatment of mentally disordered offenders. For this, I interviewed nearly 30 mentally ill persons who were either under trial or convicted and serving time at the Bangalore Central Prison. I spoke to mental health professionals and prison psychiatrists about the treatment received by such prisoners and realised what an abominable state they were in. It was this project that ultimately defined my career. My M.Sc dissertation and Ph.D. thesis, both are related to mentally disordered offenders and how law and society, both need to change to improve their situation.

     

    What do you think were the biggest hurdles and challenges in the early days of your career? How did you deal with them?

    Despite wanting to work in the specific area of criminal law relating to the mentally ill, I had no idea where to start, and with the pressure of placements, I applied for a job in corporate law, just like everyone else. My only corporate law internship had been with Amarchand Bangalore (in my 4th year), and when they offered me a PPO, I accepted it. It’s hard to refuse such an offer, especially against peer pressure as well as family pressure. Most families do not want their daughters running around prisons to speak to convicts suffering from Psychosis.

    While I adjusted to the job at Amarchand, I never really felt excited by it.A big challenge for me was the long hours required of a capital markets lawyer. Markets were booming at the time that I joined, and there was more work than we could comfortably manage. It’s easy to burn out quickly when you do not see yourself making a career out of that job. But, the biggest hurdle for me was to convince my family that I wanted to leave a coveted high paying job in order to enter into completely unknown territory, with no clear career prospects.

     

    How was the job interview? Do you remember any of the questions asked to you? Please give our readers some tips to nail a law firm interview.

    A lot of the questions asked during these interviews are about your personal opinions and aspirations. They want to know about the sort of person you are and whether you would fit into that particular law firm culture. They want to know where you see yourself in 5 or 10 years. What could you bring to that law firm, that is unique? Sometimes, they also ask you for your opinions on current legal affairs.
    While many applicants are quite scared to answer these questions because they want to sound impressive, the thing to remember is that there is no right or wrong answer. Rather than expecting a perfect answer, I believe that recruiters want to know if you have the ability to self-introspect and whether you have any future goals or not. Whether your aspirations are limited to getting the highest paying job at a huge law firm, or if you have actually thought of a long term plan. They also want to know if your knowledge is limited to what you have been taught in the classroom, or are up to date with and can critically discuss what is happening in the world.

     

    Describe your experience at Amarchand & Mangaldas. Why did you shift from Corporate Law to Criminal law and research?

    I was assigned to the capital markets team along with a majority of the new recruits. That is something that I was clueless about, never having worked in the area. But, considering the IPO boom at that time, they needed all hands on deck. I learned quite a lot during my two years there, but I missed my prison research and finally decided to study further, but not law – I wanted to study criminology and criminal justice. When I got accepted at Oxford, there was no looking back.

     

    What can help a student get through the application process at the  University of Oxford? How different was the work environment at that University?

    Unlike many high ranking global universities, Oxford does not put as much weight on your previous academic record, as it does to your potential.

    To gauge this, in addition to the statement of purpose, which is the most important part of your application, you are also required to submit two essays on subjects of your choice (not necessarily related to the course you are applying for), through which they analyse your ability to write, research and think critically. The latter is essential – Oxford looks for uniqueness rather than the ability to score high marks in exams. They would like to know that their students are interested in long term achievements rather than just a degree.
    I had an average GPA and was ranked in the middle of my class, but they took me anyway. I believe what they found interesting, was my research and ideas on the law related to Mentally Disordered Offenders.
    They also ask for three references, instead of the usual two – one of which needs to be non-academic.

     

    Please share a bit about your Ph.D. research experience with medical and legal professionals in India.

    My Ph.D. relates to the socio-legal aspects of fitness to stand trial for persons with mental disorders. I am looking at trial procedures followed in India and England if the accused is suffering from a mental disorder that prevents him from participating in his defence or from instructing his lawyers.

    During my research, I realised that legal professionals in India know very little about this area of law, and many steers clear of it. There are cases of mentally disordered offenders being imprisoned as under-trial prisoners for decades!A factor that further intensifies the implementation of this law is the stigma attached to mental illness, which prevents many from admitting that they are unwell, and therefore not fit to undergo a normal trial.

    On the flip side, until quite recently, this law could be misused very easily – there have been many cases where families who wanted to rid themselves of the responsibility of a mentally ill relative, accused them of criminal offences like rape or sexual harassment and then let them stay in jail until a proper trial, indefinitely. When India ratified the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities, many changes were brought into the Indian legal system. More than sixty Indian legislations that related to disabled persons (including persons with mental disabilities) are currently being reviewed and amended in order to harmonize them with this convention. That is currently the main focus of my research.

    When I started my research and conducted pilot interviews with legal and medical professionals, I realised that a major issue in India was not lacuna in the law, but more as a result of our legal culture and society. Besides the lack of awareness of these legal provisions, there are also contradictions between the medical and legal definitions of concepts like insanity and disability, in addition to how such persons should be treated. My Ph.D. may not be able to resolve these issues, but I aim to bring those issues to light, that have previously been ignored or disregarded.
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    How did you become a legal consultant? What are the skills one must acquire to become a legal consultant?

    SASHA actually happened quite unexpectedly. In 2014, I was approached by Kanti Joshi, an old family friend who convened SASHA, as she was looking for lawyers to join her.Since the notification of the Sexual Harassment of Women at Workplace (Prevention, Prohibition and Redressal) Act in December 2013, she had suddenly seen an upsurge in her work as there was an immediate requirement of experts in this field. I attended a few of her sessions, read about the requirements under the law and realised that very few lawyers had this expertise.

    I was instantly drawn to this issue because in, addition to its relation to human rights and criminal law, it is another issue that has been ignored for too long.I initially started conducting awareness and training sessions on sexual harassment, and as I gained experience, I started analysing the law and became an external member of Internal Complaints Committees and also started providing legal consultation on this subject to other companies, who already had external members, but required expert knowledge of how to handle certain complicated cases.

    As such, there is no specific skill set required to become a legal consultant. In fact, lawyers working at law firms are legal consultants. Providing consultation is simply a practice, where instead of providing litigation services, the lawyer provides legal advice to individuals or businesses. However, most legal consultants have expertise in particular subjects. A big advantage for me has been the fact that as an independent legal consultant, I can keep my own work timings, and usually work out of my home office. I am very family oriented. I have a four-year-old son, with whom I get to spend a good amount of time, despite having a successful career. Also, as a result of this flexibility, I am able to dedicate a fair amount of time towards my Ph.D. research.

     

    Share your work experience as a trainer, legal consultant and an external member to ICCs on sexual harassment matters.

    The Sexual Harassment Act requires every organisation with more than 10 employees to have an Internal Complaints Committee to deal with cases of Sexual Harassment.For this, they need training on the provisions of the law as well as an external member who is either a legal professional or has expertise on this subject. The law also requires these organisations to conduct awareness sessions for the prevention of sexual harassment in the workplace.

    At SASHA, we provide all these services. Presently, I am an external member on the ICCs of 17 companies, where I assist them in resolving sexual harassment complaints. I also conduct training and awareness sessions for various organisations including hospitals, educational institutions, BPOs, IT companies, companies in the manufacturing, travel and tourism sectors, as well as various government departments and corporations.

    Despite our efforts, and efforts of other similar organisations, there is still some resistance to comply with this law. Many organisations are hesitant to sensitise their employees towards sexual harassment law, as they are worried that the provisions of this law will be misused. Their negative opinions towards this law include the fact that this legislation is just a political gimmick and that creating this law has resulted in giving power to women employees to retaliate against their superiors when unhappy with their professional progress. While not unfounded, these fears are a result of a lack of knowledge of the new law.

    Sexual harassment is a universal problem, unrestricted by financial or social status or the type of organisation one works for. No employer can be blamed for the behaviour indulged in by their employees, but closing their eyes to it is also not feasible. Many victims do not come forward with their grievances as they are unsure of what acts and behaviours amount to sexual harassment, and are unaware of what to do if faced with them. Many also do not have enough faith in their employer to deal with a complaint in a sensitive and supportive manner.

    It is my aim to spread as much awareness as possible, as I believe that to be the most effective way to bring about the desired impact.

     

    What would be your message to our readers?

    Don’t concentrate only on the subjects that are taught in law school. Learning about procedural and substantive laws is important, but what is more important, is how you practically apply that knowledge in the real world. I think internships are the best way to gather this knowledge. An internship can help you to understand the realities of the legal profession. You may learn Contract law and Company law at school, but you do not learn how to draft a contract or negotiate it.
    Also, you may not realise that you enjoy a specific field of law unless you have worked in it, so you should try your hand at internships in a variety of fields. In addition to learning the practice of law, internships are a great forum to learn from the experiences of professionals working in that field.
    Most importantly, keep an open mind. Litigation and Corporate Law are not the only options for legal professionals.