Your journey from Meerut to becoming an Advocate On Record at the Supreme Court is quite inspiring. Could you share some pivotal moments or challenges you faced during your early years in Delhi, and how you overcame them to establish your practice?
Once you step out of your comfort zone every first thing seems to have its own challenges. However, on the professional front I can say that I decided to take the plunge to the Capital with dreams and hope to make it big, in spite of not having any significant father figure in the field of law. Initially the first question which was required to be answered was from where to start as there was hardly anyone to suggest or guide what are the choices one could make while entering the profession. I made my choice and started with litigation as I had attained little experience while being associated with the chambers of Mr. Ravi Shanker Tyagi for a very brief period in Meerut Bar which was initially very helpful as Courts in Delhi are much more refined in terms of infrastructurally and in other avenues as well.
Your journey as a first-generation lawyer is truly commendable. What were the key principles or values that guided you in your career, especially during the initial stages when the path might have been more challenging?
Yes, being a first generation lawyer is a very difficult choice to make especially when you are in litigation. But all that I can say is don’t ever lose hope, be patient and focus on your work, as there are no shortcuts in this profession, the only way you can accelerate is through your abilities to make hard choices and by burning midnight oil.
Becoming an Advocate On Record involves rigorous training and experience. How was your time with Retd. Justice S.R. Singh shaped your understanding of the legal field, and what key lessons did you carry into your independent practice?
I was fortunate enough to join the Chambers of Retd. Justice S.R Singh ( Retd. Judge from Allahabad High Court) Sr. Advocate in the year 2009. After working with Mr. Singh for almost two years and having gained opulent experience by understanding the nuances and intricacies of legal field along with drafting, filling and everything that the field entails.
One judicious adage told to me by my very veteran Senior was that “ Vakalat is your first wife” if you want to do justice to your profession and I have ever since imbibed this in my practice till date and I am always grateful to all my seniors and colleagues from the chamber and outside the chamber for always guiding me in the profession.
As Ex. Additional Advocate General for the State of H.P., you’ve handled significant cases. Can you share an experience where your role had a meaningful impact on the state’s legal representation, and what insights did you gain from that experience?
It was a very enriching journey while discharging my duties as AAG for state government before the Hon’ble Supreme Court as such opportunities help you bring the best out of you. As while holding such an esteemed office one has to be very candid with all the briefs while representing the State before the Court.
Handling cases involving state entities like the Himachal Road Transport Corporation (HRTC) requires a nuanced understanding of administrative and constitutional law. Could you elaborate on the challenges faced and strategies employed in representing HRTC in various legal matters?
It is always challenging to represent Road Corporation before the Hon’ble Courts as the mostly the matters pertaining to the Corporation is of higher monitory significance be it MACT matters or service matters. What I can say from experience is that you are required to be more updated with the law and recent judgments so that you can provide better assistance to the Hon’ble Court.
Handling criminal matters requires a different set of skills. Can you share an experience from a criminal case you’ve worked on, discussing the complexities involved and the strategies adopted for a successful outcome?
Through my experience in handling criminal matters I must say one should have a very fair understanding of criminal jurisprudence as most of the criminal matters involve personal liberty which is of utmost importance. During my time at bar I have done several criminal trials, appeals but what always challenges me is the stage of cross examination as in my view Cross examination in any criminal matter is the heart and soul of the Trial.
Apart from your legal pursuits, do you have any personal hobbies or interests that you find to be a great source of relaxation or inspiration?
I can say visiting places and spending time with family and friends keeps me motivated other than work.
Coming from a small town like Meerut and making a mark in the legal profession in Delhi is undoubtedly a significant achievement. Could you share some extra efforts or unique strategies you employed in your journey to overcome any perceived challenges or biases associated with being from a smaller town?
Once you make your mark , and in this industry that is possible only when you garner some accomplishments in your name. The bias associated with a small town only remains so long as you let it affect your mental make up. If you are determined enough, the tag of coming from a small town and making it big in the capital only adds to your reputation , which at the same time works as an inspiration for people coming from the same background, and are hesitant in pursuing their goals. My only advice to the budding generation of lawyers is to fight your demons and always be hopeful and take each day as it comes. The road to success may seem endearing but it sure is fruitful at the end.
You emphasize the importance of hard work and dedication in your career. What advice would you give to the current generation of aspiring lawyers to navigate the challenges of the legal profession and build a successful practice?
I can vouch for the fact that hard work is the key “what you are seeking is seeking you”. I make my juniors understand that to be candid with clients and accurate in analysis and strict in study, you will achieve whatever you aim for as there are no shortcuts in this profession.
Having experienced both your own student journey and now interacting with the current generation, what notable differences do you observe in the approach and mindset of today’s law students compared to your time? Are there specific areas where you believe current students could focus on improvement to excel in the legal profession?
The major shift that I witnessed in the mindset of the students in comparison to when I was one, is the availability of resources and better infrastructure that can help them achieve their goals with a lot of help which is easily available, of which there was a dearth during our college days. Accessibility and availability are the major factors that determine the early years in one’s legal career as initially apart from all the teachings done at college level, the practical learning is also very vital if you wish to stay in this field.
Could you please share with us what initially sparked your interest in pursuing a career in law?
I was born and raised in Kolkata, West Bengal. After completing Class 12, I was looking for options other than the traditional courses like B.Com, BBA or pursuing CA. It was then, I chanced upon the integrated 5-year law course and thought of giving it a try. I pursued my graduation B.A. LLB from M.S. Ramaiah College of Law.
In college my interest towards Law grew more, as I was fascinated about Contracts and its various facets which has helped me later in building a career as an Arbitration Lawyer. Till date the nuances of contract fascinate me.
With your diverse experience across various law firms and legal internships, how did those early experiences shape your understanding of the legal profession?
Each internship and each role in my previous law firms taught me a different lesson. As far as my internships are concerned, I was learning the practical aspects of law as practice. Furthermore, during internships, I was more inclined to join in-house or corporate law firms. In my college I was also steer heading the placement committee with my dear batch mates. Being involved in the placement committee, I realised getting through in-house and joining a well known law firm would be difficult. Hence, after finishing college, I went to Delhi, through a friend’s reference I had joined a litigating lawyer practicing before the Supreme Court of India. I still remember my first day at the senior’s office. I was told to go to the Competition Commission of India, where I had the good fortune of observing a high-stake matter between a star cricketer and a sports apparel giant. During my first few weeks as a litigation lawyer, it was tough, as the picture I drew in my mind was of a big office and big pay scale. During this time, I had got an opportunity to join in-house, however, by this time I enjoyed appearing before various Courts and it was then I realised, I want to be a litigating lawyer. During my time as a junior advocate, since I was not local and being a first-generation lawyer, it was difficult to join good chambers/law firms, I used my learning from my placement committee days in college and kept on contacting chambers/law firms, fortunately, I have been able to get through some good chambers in Delhi and worked with a well-known law firm in Delhi. I have learned a lot from my seniors/mentors with whom I have been associated.
During my term as senior associate with a well-known law firm, I was trying to start my own setup. I had consulted a very good friend, who already had her own practice ongoing. She agreed to join me as a partner for opening a law firm. My journey with RG Legal Associates started in 2019 and thereafter we grew in number and we had the good fortune of adding two more partners and then our law firm was rebranded to RG & Kumar LLP. It is always tricky when one starts practicing/runs their own setup, that becomes a different ball game altogether, because, as a professional one becomes answerable to their clients. Especially when stakes are very high in the matter, the entire gamut changes. I have also learned through my seniors. What I am today in the professional field I owe to my mentors under whose mentorship I commenced my professional journey.
Another important aspect I learnt in the formative years of my career is teamwork. It is one of the most crucial yet neglected areas, if properly appreciated teamwork can yield results which have no bounds.
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What motivated you to specialize in areas such as Corporate and Commercial Litigation, Arbitration, and White-Collar Crimes?
I took up all sorts of work that came my way. However, since the start of my career, I have always joined chambers/law firms specialising or have worked in arbitration/commercial litigation. I have been keen in reading materials about Arbitration, I still try to read one judgment on arbitration every day. For my love for the subject, I had completed the Associate level of professional curriculum offered by Chartered Institute of Arbitrators, London. I still plan to complete the remaining curriculum.
For matters in White Collar Crimes, I would have to give credit to my friend Ms. Kinnori Ghosh, Partner, RG & Kumar LLP. She is the one who heads this practice area in our firm and I have learned a lot from her. Whatmore attracted me to White Collar Crimes cases is the commercial angle involved in it. Interestingly, my client base has been more of Commercial litigation and white-collar crimes. Also, the complexities of special acts added as a catalyst to me, to read and find out of the box strategies for my client, which has in turn helped my clients.
We see you’ve represented clients across different forums and even internationally. Can you walk us through a particularly challenging case and how you navigated through it?
There is this case, wherein, the Government of India is requesting the extradition of my Client from London and the extradition proceedings were going on before the Westminster’s Court, UK. We as a team were working remotely round the clock for our client during the COVID-19, we had to work both Indian and UK time as well, as we had conference calls with a law firm based in London. We were opposing our Client’s extradition proceedings. Also, we had to appear as an expert witness in the matter to assist the Magistrate Westminster’s Court, UK in understanding Indian laws. That is one case where my team and myself had to work on dual jurisdictions and work on both UK and Indian timings. Coupled with the fact that extradition in itself is a very critical aspect where a number of technical aspects are to be checked and extensively worked upon.
As a certified Associate Arbitrator and a member of the Young Singapore International Arbitration Centre, what drew you to arbitration, and how has it enriched your legal practice?
Arbitration as a subject always excites me and as the law in arbitration is evolving and the steps taken by the various stakeholders to make it more efficient further adds to my interest. Further, being members of these prestigious institutions, the one advantage that one gets is to attend events and interact with the experts. We as a firm always encourage our partners to attend knowledge sharing events organised by the likes of SIAC.
You’ve been involved in matters related to Money Laundering, Customs, and other White-Collar Crimes. What unique challenges do you face in handling such high-stake cases, and how do you overcome them?
In matters of money laundering, customs and other white-collar crimes, the stakes involved are huge, to share one of such incident, we were assisting one of the companies in customs case, wherein, we as an organisation had to get a stay order from the Jaipur Bench of Rajasthan High Court, failure on our part would have resulted in halting of production of our client, in consequence it would have impacted the production of another listed company of which our client is the exclusive supplier for certain product to that listed company. Overnight we had the writ petition drafted and the same was filed and listed the next day. We were shuttling between Delhi and Jaipur for this specific matter. Our team had strategized the situation so well that we were able to get relief for our client without hampering the production and/or business of our client.
Lastly, considering your journey from law school to becoming a partner at RG & Kumar LLP, what advice would you offer to recent law graduates embarking on their legal careers?
Well, first and foremost, take care of your health, this was the first advice that I had received from my seniors that I have worked with. One can deliver the best if one can take care of his/her health.
Never give up, the worst of situations can turn around the best for you. To share one incident, in one of the matters we were briefed by a lawyer from Kolkata, wherein, our client had lost before the MM Court, Sessions Court, Calcutta High Court and thereafter we had filed SLP for stay of arrest for our client before Supreme Court of India, we had no hope in the matter, as concurrent findings were against our client, to our surprise we were able to get a stay on arrest from the Supreme Court of India.
Always be prepared with your brief, a client is more comfortable with a professional who is well versed with the facts of the case, this will help one to retain the client for a long period and most importantly will help one to get the best results for the client.
One should stay updated with the latest developments of law, one aspect I have learnt from my senior is reading one judgment a day. It helps you give a boost to your knowledge and also helps you stay confident in representing your clients or appearing for an interview.
Further, a lawyer should always socialise and should always meet people not only from the legal fraternity but also from people from different industries.
Can you share insights into your journey from college to becoming the Founder and Partner at KIAA, LLP? What were the pivotal moments or experiences that shaped your decision to establish your own firm?
Like every law student, I too have had my share of carefree days in college but as I progressed into senior years, the zeal of doing something started to kick in. In the early year of 2011, after the completion of our law degrees, the members of KIAA LLP (as they are today) found themselves taking divergent paths in the legal profession. Some ventured into roles as in-house counsels for corporations, while others worked with seniors in the field, gaining valuable exposure and experience. However, as we navigated our journeys, it became evident that establishing one’s presence in the legal field required more than just exposure. While working with seasoned professionals sure helped us create a space for our own in the industry, the opportunities that we had created for ourselves in that space needed to be tapped in time.
Realizing this, I engaged in discussions with like-minded colleagues, Ankur and Chayan, who shared similar perspectives on the importance of creating a niche for ourselves in the legal arena.
Fortuitously, our discussions culminated in a collective decision to join forces and establish KIAA LLP in early 2012. This marked the inception of our law firm, where we aimed not only to leverage our individual experiences but also to pool our strengths and work collaboratively. The firm was founded on the belief that client satisfaction using correct knowledge, providing the right information, and ensuring accessibility of service to our clients even if located in the remotest part of the country. Hence, that got us a name for our perspective, KIAA LLP- Knowledge Information Access Associates Limited Liability Partnership.
Given your involvement in pro bono services for organizations like Malala Funds and Trust Law, how do you balance commercial legal work with contributing to social causes?
So, it’s not about balancing at all. It’s about aligning your principles of life with your work, and what is a man without principles?
I was born and raised in a Sikh Family with the teachings of the Gurus. I want to take this opportunity to refer to a verse from Shri Guru Granth Sahib Ji which has immortalized words of Guru Nanak Dev Ji – “One who works for what he eats, and gives some of what he has in charity, O Nanak, he knows the path to fulfilment.” Taking inspiration from which, we have always been inculcated with a habit of doing ‘Sewa’ which can be either through ਮਨ, ਧਨ (tan (physical service), man (mental/emotional service), or dhan (financial support)).
My intention of working for social causes has always been that of giving something back to society in terms of my time and efforts. So, I utilise my knowledge and expertise to earn my livelihood through commercial matters, and I consider myself privileged to be able to utilise some of it for a social cause.
KIAA, LLP has received numerous awards and recognitions. What do you attribute the success of the firm to, and what sets it apart in the legal landscape?
I attribute the success of the firm to my team- my co-founders, associates and every other member of our staff who do not hesitate to work around the clock if need be. It is also about the work culture at KIAA LLP that we have all built through the years. I have always said that we measure our success not by trophies, awards or cheques but by ‘Client Satisfaction’. I think, our ‘Client First’ attitude is our USP!
You’re a member of various legal associations and clubs. How has being part of these networks enriched your professional life and influenced your perspectives on law?
To be very honest, networking is very important in our profession and being part of the legal associations and clubs is a great way to socialise and build a meaningful network. I have benefited greatly from it, not only because I met many of my prospective clients through these clubs but I met people from various walks of life including law, seniors & juniors having different experiences.
These kinds of experiences widen your horizons as a lawyer. The job of the lawyer is to understand the perspective of his client, and the Court both. We all know how dynamic and subjective human nature is. Being a part of these clubs helps you enhance the emotional quotient- the greatest asset of our profession!
You’ve served as the Central Government Counsel at the Delhi High Court. Could you shed some light on your role during that time and share any experiences or cases that left a lasting impact on your professional journey?
Certainly! I was pleased to be appointed as Government Pleader in the year 2012, and I remained on the list of empanelled lawyers with the Central Government Litigation branch at the Delhi High Court until 2017-18.
This six-year period was most significant in shaping my professional journey. It exposed me to the intricacies of handling multi-faceted and high-stakes government matters.
One of the distinctive aspects of appearing on behalf of the government is the sense of responsibility and accountability because your actions and advice can have a direct impact on the general public. It goes beyond individual client representation, as you are entrusted with safeguarding the interests of the larger public and the government as a whole. That’s the combination of power & responsibility that a government counsel bears on his head.
A set of experiences that seemed cumbersome to my 10-year younger self but had the most impact on my professional journey was the manual filing process prevalent at the time. Unlike today’s E-filing systems, we used to stand in queues before filing counters with strict deadlines to meet. This hands-on experience taught me the importance of time management, meticulous preparation, and adherence to court procedures.
Now, the agility and clarity with which a court case needs to be handled comes as a second nature to me. I guess, now I truly understand the meaning of this phrase “The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.”
Can you tell us a bit about the talented team at KIAA, LLP? How do you nurture and support your team members, and can you give us an idea of the size of your team or the number of interns involved in the firm’s operations?
First things first, I think every person at KIAA, LLP knows their job well and my co-founders & I give our Associates a free hand to conduct the matters. Of course, we discuss each proposition together and work on possible solutions but flexibility is the key.
We believe people can work better if they are not micromanaged. We allow them to work freely while standing strong and tall as their support should the need arise. We are a happy, hardworking and fun-loving bunch of about 15-17 people including our clerical staff.
You’ve expanded KIAA, LLP into a multi-service law firm. What inspired this diversification, how do you ensure the team provides practical legal solutions to clients?
I’d rather say, WE have expanded KIAA, LLP into a multi-service law firm. Naturally, when we started the firm, we were a boutique firm working only on the matters that our clients got to us. Over time we realised that most of our clients (largely business & commercial houses) face similar problems, and we thought why not have an end-to-end solution for all these problems starting from compliance to representation in appropriate forums?
That’s how we undertook expansion and diversification. Just as Rome wasn’t built in a day, we also took our time, took one department, one specialisation at a time. Categorised various departments and hired associates having specialised knowledge in that department. KIAA, LLP as you see today is years of hard work, late nights, early mornings, sweat & blood.
We have only one mantra of providing legal solutions to our clients- WE PUT OUR BEST PERSON ON THE JOB!
In addition to your legal expertise, you’ve delved into blockchain and cryptocurrency, as seen in your certification from Berkeley Law. How do you see emerging technologies influencing the legal landscape, and how is KIAA, LLP adapting to these changes?
Well, the emerging technologies can influence the legal landscape in many ways or they have already started influencing the system, I’d rather say. With Smart Contracts, Live Streaming of court hearings, E-Filings, E-tokens etc. It would come as no surprise when there will be an official cryptocurrency being used as legal tender! Maybe there will be dedicated law firms for Crypto Law Practice in the future, who knows!? The possibilities are endless!
We are talking about two things that are highly dynamic- Law & Tech! An impact on one industry will definitely impact the other.
Outside of your busy legal career, can you share a personal interest or hobby that might surprise our readers and provide a different dimension to your personality?
I love travelling! I find immense joy in exploring new places and immersing myself in different cultures. It’s not just about leisure; I often plan my trips strategically, making the most of the court summer vacations to indulge in this personal interest. Whether it’s a serene beach destination, a historic city, or a picturesque mountain retreat, I appreciate the diversity our world offers, and I make it a point to experience it firsthand. It helps me unwind, gain fresh perspectives, and recharge for the challenges of the profession.
Another hobby that adds a different dimension to my personality is playing golf. I find solace in the greens, it helps me strike a perfect balance between relaxation and skill, offering me a chance to clear my mind while engaging in a sport that requires focus and precision.
Not many would know but I am also an avid collector of watches and antiques. I appreciate art & craftsmanship. Each watch or antique item tells a unique story, and helps me travel in the era bygone!
Having navigated through diverse legal challenges, is there a piece of advice or a valuable lesson from your career that you would like to share with the upcoming generation of legal professionals as they embark on their journeys in the legal field?
I would say to my young colleagues & fellow persons: – Dream, Work & Live! Dream big so that you work hard to achieve the life you want but, in the meantime, don’t forget to live. That would mean allowing yourself to make mistakes, they would teach you lessons no law school and mentor can teach. Keep moving and be positive about your work because like a wise man said-
‘A pessimist makes nothing not even a mistake!’.
It would be most appropriate to end this conversation with a saying of Steve Winwood, “The finer things I feel in me, the golden dance life could be.”
Sir, could you please share your journey of how you ended up becoming an Advocate-on-Record at the Supreme Court of India and a Principal Associate at Dua Associates? What motivated you to pursue a career in law?
The starting point of my journey with law was a matter of chance. During my school days I never imagined myself studying law, however, when I look back today, I think that joining law school was one of the best decisions which I took. I got through Gujarat National Law School, Gandhinagar in the year 2005 and started my journey in the profession in the year 2010 under the able guidance of Ratan Kumar Singh, Senior Advocate. Thereafter, I joined Kapil Sapra & Associates in the year 2012 where I dealt with multifarious works. Being a small set up, work was of different kinds, and the exposure there helped me understand the finer nuances of corporate commercial laws. In the year 2016, I joined Lakshmikumaran & Sridharan, where I dealt with high stake arbitration matters amongst others. Therefore, the exposure at this firm was of a completely different nature. In the year 2020, I joined Dua Associates as a principal associate and continue to work in this firm. I firmly believe that one must keep upgrading his skill sets to be relevant in the legal field. This belief led me to write Advocate-on-Record examinations and I cleared the same in my first attempt. I have enjoyed and learned immensely from different stints in the legal profession.
With a specialization in commercial/civil litigation, insolvency laws, and alternate dispute resolution, can you discuss a particularly challenging or significant case you’ve worked on? What lessons did you learn from that experience?
Every case presents a different set of challenges. Therefore, as a lawyer one must understand each case of its merits and treat the same accordingly. I started my practice with a strong foundation of civil, commercial and arbitration laws, which has helped me in dealing with other laws as well. With the advent of insolvency laws, the options available with the parties have increased manifold. Therefore, the first challenge which a lawyer faces today is to decide the right course of action in the given facts and circumstances. Whilst I have worked on various cases which have been challenging or significant, I have been recently involved in a matter before the National Company Law Tribunal, where I represented the financial creditor, in an application filed by the homebuyers, seeking to commence insolvency proceedings against a real estate developer, to which the financial creditor had lent money. Whilst the law is fairly settled, and in case the homebuyers meet the threshold and there is a default, insolvency proceedings should be commenced. However, I argued that the tribunal should not act mechanically and should see the financial health of the company, in addition to the intent behind the filing of the application by the homebuyers which can be fraudulent. I also argued that the interest of homebuyers who are not before the tribunal should also be considered before arriving at a final decision. The tribunal is yet to pass an order, however, this is significant because law is all about being creative within the realm of judicial precedents and legal principles.
As someone who appears regularly before various courts and tribunals, can you shed light on the dynamics of practicing law in different forums? How does your approach differ when dealing with cases in the Supreme Court compared to other fora?
Every forum presents a different set of challenges, and a lawyer should be flexible to deal with such challenges in case one intends to practice before a different forum. By flexibility I mean adapting to the situation at hand. A lawyer who regularly appears before a district court has a particular way of dealing with the cases, however, the same may not be applicable with higher forums. Similarly, a lawyer who practices before the higher forums, will find it difficult to practice before the district courts. That’s why a lot of lawyers choose forums and stick to it. My approach is different because I have been associated mostly with chambers and firms. I started with district courts, tribunals and gradually shifted to high courts and supreme courts, and therefore had the benefit of knowing finer nuances of various courts practice. The best approach according to me is to stick to the basics, i.e., mastery over facts, reliefs sought and an understanding of the forum where the matter is listed.
Given your extensive experience in handling commercial disputes and arbitration matters, both domestic and international, could you highlight some key trends or changes you’ve observed in the legal landscape over the years?
The legal landscape has undergone some of the most significant changes in recent years, due to technological advancements and subject-specific specialization. In addition, the legal profession is also moving towards a multidisciplinary approach, where there is an integration of legal services with other disciplines, such as technology, finance, and business. The areas which have seen significant change include information technology related laws, cyber laws, environmental law, arbitration law etc. In order to cater to the evolving laws and changing trends, a legal professional is required to be updated and focus on specialization.
Having dealt with cases across diverse sectors such as Oil & Gas, Infrastructure, Telecom & IT, Banking & Finance, etc., how do you stay updated on the intricacies of different industries? How important is industry-specific knowledge in your field?
It’s very essential for a lawyer to be updated with latest legal developments and changes, especially in the areas in which he/she works. The way in which I stay up to date is by regularly reading legal updates online and offline. These days there are various newsletters being issued by firms, organisation which contains useful industry specific updates. In addition, I also attend to webinars and conferences, whenever the time permits in order to stay updated. Industry-specific knowledge is very essential in my areas of practice since different industries have different styles of operation. For example, a banking and finance industry has a different style of operation if one compares the same with an oil and gas industry. Therefore, it becomes imperative for a legal professional to deal with every industry after understanding and analysing the basic difference. Once there is a clarity on the basics, one can deal with the issue at hand with ease.
What role does advisory work play in your practice? Can you share an instance where your advice made a significant impact on a client’s case or decision-making process?
Advisory assumes a great importance in my practice areas. Advisory does not only mean a written/oral legal advice, but it includes the day to day dealing with clients, and answering the queries, and extending support to them in the usual course as and when required. One of the opinions which according to me made a significant impact on a client’s case or decision-making process, relates to an analysis of attachment orders issued by district collector, pursuant to the recovery certificates issued by National Consumer Disputes Redressal Commission, and suggesting the future course of action. Pursuant to our thorough analysis and opinion, the attachment orders were quashed and the same was a big relief for the clients.
With over 13 years of experience in the legal field, what advice would you give to fresh graduates aspiring to pursue a career in law, considering the evolving nature of the legal profession? What qualities or skills do you believe are crucial for success in this field?
My advice to a fresh graduate aspiring to pursue a career in law is to focus on the basics first. One can excel in the field and do specialization only if the base is strong. Secondly one has to be humble and have a humane approach. The legal profession is a noble profession wherein we have to deal with various human beings on a daily basis, therefore being humble is very essential. In addition, being sincere and meticulous also helps a lawyer in the long run. Also, having a commercial bent of mind is also important for a lawyer, especially for lawyers who deal with commercial disputes, arbitration, insolvency, corporate laws, and others. Constant upgradation of skill set is also required for a lawyer who wants to succeed in the legal profession. Lastly, one must be solution oriented and should have clarity of thought. This can only come through continuous learning and adapting to the situation at hand.
Can you share your journey and tell us what motivated you to pursue a career in law, from your early internships to your current role as a Managing Associate at Lall & Sethi in New Delhi?
As a child, you would find me engaging in lengthy discussions, be it with my parents, friends, or teachers at school. And my mother’s dedication to social service has always inspired me – despite having a full-time job and two young kids, she never stopped doing whatever she could to give back to those in need. This instilled in me a strong responsibility to give back to society. As law was the way to advocate for people’s rights and engage in arguments, it was a natural progression for me to decide on law as a career. However, as a first-generation lawyer, my first real experience of the practical side of the law was through my early internships, which provided hands-on experience, and solidified my commitment to this career. Now, as a Managing Associate at Lall & Sethi, I continue this journey, driven by the belief that law is a powerful tool for society. My pursuit aligns with a deep-seated desire to contribute meaningfully to society.
You have an extensive background in intellectual property law. Could you explain what drew you to this particular field and share some of the most interesting cases or projects you’ve worked on in the realm of intellectual property?
The arts have always played a major role throughout my life. My mother is a classically trained singer and started training me at the age of three. Thus, having been trained in singing and dancing, and having dabbled in drawing, craftwork and directing, my curiosity was piqued by the interplay between the arts and the law, thus making intellectual property law a natural choice for my specialization. The dynamic nature of this field, especially given the developing nature of the law in India, drove me towards it. Throughout my career, I have had the privilege of learning from and being involved in complicated cases that raised interesting questions of law spanning different fields. One particularly intriguing project involved navigating the complexities of derivative work performed by different artists vis-à-vis the rights of the original artist in the underlying work. Another highlight was considering and advising clients on the interpretation of comparative advertising through implied comparison. One other matter that comes to mind is advising clients on ambush marketing and its implications. I’ve also had the privilege of delving into the interplay between trademarks and geographical indications. These experiences have not only honed my legal skills, but also reinforced my commitment to excelling in intellectual property law.
Your experience includes working as a US and India Associate Attorney. How did you navigate the legal systems in both countries, and what were the key differences or similarities you encountered?
Navigating the legal systems as a US and India licensed Attorney in IP law involves a focus on different strategies. What is interesting is that both countries have similarities in the manner in which they prioritize prior use in the market over the first to file with the government. But the process of registration is very different in both countries. As a US-licensed attorney, I learnt the need to be extremely thorough in running clearance searches before filing a trademark because of the strict nature of examination by the United States Patent and Trademarks Office. Conversely, in India, my focus extended to strategic advisory work, embracing a more solution-oriented approach, as Indian procedure before the Trade Marks Registry focuses on the prior user in the market. The concept of use of a trademark and what is considered sufficient is also quite different in both jurisdictions, thus changing the focus of the advice that one would give clients to prove use in the respective countries. However, despite these disparities, the Indian judiciary often considers it relevant to examine the laws abroad, more particularly in the US, UK and EU when passing orders on interesting points of law. As a result, the development of intellectual property law in these countries is relevant for the progress of Indian law as well. This motivates me to not only keep abreast of new Indian judgments, but to also keep track of changing US jurisprudence in IP law.
You’ve been featured in the World Trademark Review as a top filer in the US. What strategies did you employ to achieve such recognition, and what challenges did you overcome during your time with LegalForce RAPC Worldwide?
Securing recognition as a prominent filer in the US very early in my career was a result of highly meticulous case management, learning the law quickly and efficiently in a manner that best served the needs of my clients, of course with the integration of technological solutions for enhanced efficiency, and a vigilant awareness of evolving trademark laws. Building strong client relationships was a priority, ensuring a profound understanding of their unique needs and fostering enduring relationships. This journey was not without its challenges. As a young lawyer, one learns by immersing themselves fully in the law and its changes by being a voracious reader and also learning to observe their peers, seniors and juniors. Much of my learning relating to procedure was due to the time I spent with paralegals who assisted me in my filings. I realized that effectively managing time and cultivating a collaborative team approach were imperative in order to achieve the best efficiency. Observing my peers and learning from their different styles of being a lawyer also encouraged me to look inwards to find the kind of lawyer I wished to be. This reinforced the importance of maintaining, in me, an unwavering commitment to complete honesty in work and excellence in both client service and legal research.
In your career, you’ve worked on trademark prosecution and enforcement across various countries. How do you approach providing detailed country-specific advice to clients who operate in multiple jurisdictions?
Navigating trademark prosecution and enforcement across diverse jurisdictions demands an approach that harmonizes black letter law with case law and procedural insights. I have had the unique opportunity of being deeply involved in Indian, US and south east Asian legal frameworks which exposed me to the nuances of each country’s laws and procedures. Past prosecution and enforcement experiences combined with discussions with legal counsels in different jurisdictions on a range of matters has provided invaluable lessons, allowing me to anticipate challenges and optimize strategies based on my experiences in those countries. Beyond legal technicalities, grasping the unique dynamics of each country is crucial. Procedural requirements combined with an understanding of how the judiciary reacts significantly impact enforcement strategies. Regular engagement with local counsels fortifies my advisory role, facilitating a proactive response to emerging issues. Of course – clear communication with clients is paramount for me – if I am unable to distill complex legal intricacies into actionable insights, I would not be helping them make informed decisions. Flexibility is key, allowing for tailored approaches that resonate with the legal and business requirements of each client. I always strive to understand the business needs of every client. This holistic method ensures comprehensive and effective counsel, fostering robust trademark strategies for clients operating seamlessly across multiple countries.
As a guest lecturer and judge in various legal events, you’ve had the opportunity to share your legal expertise. Could you tell us more about your experiences in educating and mentoring future legal professionals?
As a guest lecturer and judge at various legal events, I have had the privilege of interacting with inquisitive future legal professionals, especially students in law schools. I encourage students to come forward and ask me any question to help them understand law as a profession as this is one such profession which can benefit people from all walks of life. Through lectures, I convey how black letter law translates to practice in an attorney’s everyday life, highlighting the relevance of judicial pronouncements and legal research.
As a first generation lawyer myself, I have relied heavily on connections I had built over the years, to navigate my journey as a professional. So, my aim in serving as a mentor to students, aspiring lawyers or young professionals is to help them navigate the profession a little better, guide them on refining their advocacy skills and nurture a respect for research and reading. Playing a role in shaping a new cadre of adept, socially aware, and justice-committed legal practitioners is incredibly fulfilling for me personally and I am always available to anyone who reaches out for my guidance.
You’ve earned several degrees in law, including an LL.M. from The George Washington University Law School. How did your academic pursuits contribute to your career, and what advice would you give to law students who aspire to excel in their studies and those interested in intellectual property law and international practice ?
My legal education, an LL.M. from The George Washington University Law School, has been the compass guiding my career. When I graduated from law school with my undergraduate degree, I was still keen on delving deeper into the field that I knew was my calling. So, pursuing a masters was a natural choice and I find myself much enhanced as an overall professional because of this experience.
As Gandhi said, ‘Be the change you wish to see in the world’. To aspiring law students: Blend academic prowess with practical wisdom. Engage in internships, embrace moot courts, and build a network. Excellence demands dedication and a commitment to continuous learning. Success in law is not just about knowledge, but embodying the change you seek. The journey from student to legal professional is a transformative process; let Gandhi’s wisdom inspire your path to becoming a catalyst for positive change in the legal realm. As I reflect on my journey and accomplishments, my advice to fresh law graduates would be to foster a curious mindset, staying attuned to the constant, very evolving legal frameworks. Pursue diverse experiences through actively participating in networking to construct a strong professional foundation. In the dynamic realm of intellectual property, nurture a fervor for research and keeping abreast of the latest legal developments, whether it is through reading judgments or conducting research on the aspects of law which are yet to be explored. With evolving technology, there is an ever expanding scope for the law itself given the ambiguity in the current legal framework that has not changed at the same speed as innovations. So, keeping yourself informed of legal and technological developments is key for any growing professional. As a young lawyer, it is also very important to work towards being the kind of professional you intend to be throughout your career. Prioritizing communication skills, adeptness in communicating intricate legal concepts in a simple, easily understandable manner, establishing a mentorship network to actively seek guidance, never compromising your integrity or ethical standards – are all foundational to a flourishing legal career. It is important to remember that every miss, every challenge and every mistake is a chance for growth, and this commitment to continuous learning will pave the way for a gratifying and impactful journey in law.
Can you share the journey of how you decided to pursue a career in law, especially with a focus on Government Litigation ?
Firstly I would like to thank Superlawyer for this interview and convey my deep appreciation for their endeavor. Law graduates would find my insights useful while planning their professional journey.
Being the second generation lawyer, law was the obvious choice as I have been watching my father attending court. Also the fact that law is one such mechanism which touches human lives .It is one such avenue which can bring about positive changes in this inequitable world.
I got through the National Law Institute University , (NLIU) Bhopal in 2007.I started my practice at Allahabad High Court. After the elevation of my father as a High Court Judge, I shifted to Delhi to practice at the Supreme Court in 2013. One does not start with government litigation in the formative years . I landed with ‘government panels’ after spending considerable time in private practice. By God’s grace , I have been continuing the work for the past many years before the Supreme Court and different tribunals across Delhi. It’s indeed a privilege to be part of a competent team of government lawyers where I get to work on complex and high profile cases. I have gained considerable experience while representing State Governments and Corporations.
With extensive experience in dealing with both State Governments and Corporations, can you highlight a particular case that has been the most challenging or memorable in your career so far?
I have been extremely fortunate to have worked on a wide range of cases.While every case I argue is close to my heart , but the one that stands out is the service matter in which I appeared as a standing counsel on behalf of the Delhi Transport Corporation before Delhi High Court. An Employee had resigned after rendering 29 years of service.The court was inclined to grant relief on equitable ground. I could successfully convince the court that the word “resignation” and “voluntary retirement” cannot be used interchangeably in the case of an employee and thus not entitled to retiral benefits.
Another satisfying case has been of a gazetted government officer wherein I was able to secure the quashing of criminal proceedings as well as divorce under Article 142 of the constitution from the Supreme Court . There were multiple cases lodged by his wife in different districts.
I have had the opportunity to assist the Senior Advocate/Advocate-on-Record(s) in several high profile cases like CBI autonomy ,Triple talaq Article 370 etc to name a few.
How did your academic background shape your perspective and approach towards practicing law?
Apart from my legal background , I believe my law school NLIU played an important role in shaping my personality.Be it moot court participation or time bound completion of research papers involving rigorous research or internships with top law firms have all contributed to my professional growth . The interdisciplinary approach taught there has also enabled me to develop a broader perspective which is helping me to diversify my practice .No wonder , I never found any hurdles in adapting to the distinct practice culture of the Supreme Court after shifting to Delhi from Allahabad (now Prayagraj) in 2013. I cracked the Advocate-on-Record (AOR) exam in my very first attempt in 2019.
It has been an enriching experience to represent the Government of India ,Uttar Pradesh and Uttarakhand before the Supreme Court of India. I also appear before different High Courts like Allahabad , Chandigarh etc frequently.
You have an LL.M. in Cyber Laws and have published articles in prestigious journals. How has the specialization in Cyber Laws influenced your practice, and what challenges do you often face in this dynamic field?
After some years of practice, I wanted to pursue post-graduation However it was not possible to leave active practice and pursue studies. Coronavirus Pandemic provided me an opportunity to pursue a two year masters’ program in Cyber Laws from School of Law and Legal Studies, Guru Gobind Singh Indraprastha University [GGSIPU], Delhi. These two years not only gave me invaluable insights, but also provided me with an alternative perspective that is going to benefit my career as a lawyer.
E-commerce in India is moving forward by leaps and bounds. With it , there are bound to be cyber crimes.We all have seen critically acclaimed web series ‘Jamtara-Sabka Number Ayega’ where the phishing, a type of cybercrime, is undertaken in an organized manner by the village teenagers . I believe that the role of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in the realm of cyber security looks promising.The challenge remains to be seen in respect of effective implementation of AI systems given the fact that such systems are going to be trained in safeguarding data.
As an Advocate-on-Record, you’ve appeared before various courts and tribunals, including the Supreme Court and High Courts. Could you share some insights into the differences in presenting cases in these forums and how you navigate through them?
I believe the approach varies from court to court.This is due to the fact that the jurisdiction of each court is different . For instance, the Supreme Court is not only the highest court of the land but also the final court of appeal.This mandates lawyers taking a different approach which one would not take before High Court or Tribunal(s). It is like identifying the error committed by Court /Tribunal below and presenting it in a limited time frame before Supreme Court judges. The case with the High Court(s) is different as lawyers have the liberty to argue at length.
Practice in Trial courts involve more procedure laws while Higher courts involve mostly appellate or writ jurisdiction dealing with legal issues relating to substantive law. Facts are the main weapon of choice before the Trial courts while Higher courts deal with nuances of law.However, I would add a caveat. Facts are the backbone of every case irrespective of courts involved and lawyers should always be well versed with them .If left to me , I would say that every case is decided on the facts and law helps in unearthing the truth and reaching at the correct conclusion to promote justice.
Given your interest in writing articles and being invited by universities to judge legal events, how do you balance your advocacy work with these academic pursuits, and how do they complement each other in your professional growth?
Being an Advocate actually provides the satisfaction of directly representing the ‘aggrieved’ before the court. Whereas writing legal articles or mentoring law students reflect my commitment of giving back to the legal fraternity.
Both Advocacy and Academic pursuits might be distinct but they are essentially complementary. Writing articles or mentoring allow me to engage with burning legal topics on a broader scale. It provides me a platform to share my knowledge
and insights with my peers. It would be wrong If I don’t admit that writing brings about an in-depth understanding of the legal principles. Meeting ‘like-minded’ professionals is another advantage.
Thus balancing practice with academic pursuits is challenging but immensely fulfilling.
You’ve worked with different government bodies, including the Government of India and various state governments. What unique challenges or considerations arise when representing government entities compared to private clients?
I have been appearing before the Supreme Court of India , Delhi High Court, NCLT, NCLAT, and NCDRC. With over a decade of experience, I personally feel that the case of Government bodies is often strong legally but lacks either professional advice or proper representation. For instance, crucial evidence is not adduced or documents vital for adjudication of the case are not annexed before the Court/Tribunal(s) .Such instances have led to the dismissal of cases before Supreme Court having financial ramifications.
When entrusted with a case , I try my best to go through the records thoroughly and ensure superfluous claims are nipped in the bud and genuine claims, if any , remain for adjudication. Professional fee offered by the Government bodies is although meager but the volume of cases give consistent opportunity to appear before the Courts which enhances one’s nuanced understanding of law , not to forget court craft.
Private clients on the other hand approach lawyers after taking painstaking research about the reputation one enjoys in the market. I found such clients smart and attentive. But the problem crops up when it comes to managing their
expectation especially at a place like the Supreme Court where the dismissal rate of cases is high at the admission stage.
I have been fortunate enough to get the best of both worlds. It has been so far a transformative experience that has broadened my horizons and equipped me with the skills necessary to handle extremely challenging propositions.
As a Managing Partner of Avika Law Offices LLP, and with reported judgments to your credit, what advice would you offer to law graduates entering the profession, particularly those interested in government litigation ?
My journey from a law student to Managing Partner of Avika Law Offices LLP has been a rewarding experience. I would urge law graduates aspiring to enter this dynamic profession to look for good mentors. It is extremely important to have a good chamber in initial years which lays down a strong foundation. Embrace lifelong learning considering the vastness of law as a discipline. Constant updation is sine qua non .Go for additional qualifications to hone skills .There are no shortcuts in this profession. Always uphold integrity.
Lastly, frequent interaction with peers and legal professionals is a fruitful idea as
It provides both guidance and opportunities in the profession.
Could you please share your journey and the pivotal moments that led you to pursue a career in law, particularly in the field of entertainment and media law?
As a teenager, I possessed a skill of questioning and having healthy negotiations at home and with teachers in school towards studies and life. Parents always wanted me to become a doctor or an engineer, however due to my low maths score I couldn’t qualify in either of the fields. Whilst growing up there were property related issues in the family, thus at a very young age I had started reading the legal notices and their responses. The legal language mentioned in such notices was very intriguing for me and as such I was always curious to know the nitty-gritties involved in various types of laws which governed our country. Consequently, before I could complete my 10th grade she had decided to become a lawyer. Also, law does not require any maths or complex chemical calculations. Throughout my school life always had a good command over spoken and written English language and could memorise vast portions of her school syllabus along with general knowledge gained by reading newspapers, these basic skills were enough to have a zeal to become a lawyer and to get into a good law school.
Thus, after completing school in 1999, I got into commerce stream and completed my basic graduation from Mumbai wherein she got to learn about business management and economics. Post that in 2004 I got admission into the 3 year Law Course from Jitendra Chauhan College of Law, Mumbai. In those 3 years I was also interning at a reputed law firm wherein I obtained hands-on experience of drafting the legal language, visiting the High Court of Bombay, meeting counsels, reviewing the agreements, drafting legal notices. Over the period of 3 years my teenage dream of drafting and executing legal documents unfolded and by the end of the internship and law college in 2007 Persis was ready to take on the legal fraternity with her skills of drafting, negotiating and executing legal documents.
On a personal front, during my childhood, my parents used to take me to watch Hindi films in the theatres at Mumbai and thus as a child I always had this thought that someday my name should appear on that big theatre screen in the capacity of a lawyer. Unknown to how life after 2007 would open avenues for me in the media and entertainment sector.
Thus in 2007 after completion of B.com and LLB graduation, I was very aggressive in search of a legal job in the market. As destiny would have it, I secured a job as a Legal Executive in Adlabs Films, Filmcity Mumbai in October 2007. In her tenure of 3 years there, she got hands-on experience in drafting, negotiating and executing all the Film production, distribution agreements. Not only I worked in the legal side of the company but was also fortunate enough to learn the technical side of converting the final film footage into a digital cinema print and distributing the same worldwide. In this tenure I also got a chance of reviewing and negotiating the business conducting agreements wherein the single screen and multiplex cinema chains owners were giving their old cinemas to be refurbished and run under the brand name of Big Cinemas in India. On the other hand, the benefit of working in the entertainment sector was that I got a chance to see and meet many film actors and was also invited to a lot of film screenings and parties. Overall during the entire tenure I had a holistic approach of how the Film fraternity functions and gained the legal and commercial knowledge of each and every aspect involved in the Filmmaking business in India.
Thus by the year 2010 I was sure that I would pursue a career in my lifetime in the Media and Entertainment industry as it was very challenging and vulnerable. Being very hard working and a person who is open to learning new things happening in the industry along with multitasking and managing numerous verticals in the company made me an all-rounder in the media and entertainment industry. All this was possible due to the support of my seniors and friends which I had made whilst working in Adlabs Films.
Given your diverse educational background, how have your experiences at Southwestern Law School, NALSAR University and Mumbai University contributed to shaping your legal career, especially in the entertainment sector?
I graduated in Law from Mumbai in the year 2007 wherein my major subject was Intellectual Property. At that time I thought that field was much more exciting and challenging to be a part of. Back then, the Entertainment and Media Industry in India was not as structured as it is today and people worked with each other based on the relations amongst them. However, it was later that this industry evolved with the agreements and contracts and commercial deal structures. Hence there was a need to further study the market and the laws in depth to cater to this industry. Hence, I later went to pursue her Post Graduate Diploma from Nalsar University, Hyderabad.
In this PGD Course I got a chance to study the laws governing the content which is circulated through cable and radio in India along with the advertisement codes applicable on brands. This was an in-depth study of the laws and real life examples prevailing in the media and entertainment industry. Thus, I completed the course in 2011.
However, post that when I was working for another media company in Mumbai which was dealing with Hollywood studios in Los Angeles, I realized the importance of learning the nuances of the legal framework prevailing in the US entertainment and media industry. Whilst working, I also wanted to learn about the various commercial aspects which are required in structuring the deals internationally.
Thus in the year 2012 I came across a law school named Southwestern Law School, Los Angeles which was providing a masters level 24 credits program in filmmaking, copyright law and commercial deal structuring in the media and entertainment sector. This was an 18 months course for international students who qualify to become a part of this course after passing the TOEFL exam and seeking the requisite score. After a long struggle of another year, I got myself enrolled into the course which commenced on/from January 2014 and graduated in May 2015.
During this course I have learnt and mastered the art and skill of drafting and executing agreements prevailing in the international media and entertainment market along with US Copyright Law. In this course I have learnt the nuisances of the Content Curating Industry. It was during this course that I learned to raise red flags in the script, train the production team and conduct due diligence of the underlying works of any original content and draft commercial agreements towards exploitation of each and every right which are embedded in the content.
Hence, by 2015 I had my qualifications and skills and abilities to take on the legal and commercial work in the media and entertainment industry in Mumbai. In the year 2016 India was also shaping up to acquire a lot of content to make films and/or web-series based on books, remake films into Hindi languages, commercially exploit and earn revenues through sale of theatrical and non-theatrical rights of the Film in India and worldwide. I had not only acquired all the knowledge through my education but also had hands-on experience by working as an In House lawyer for many companies, more particularly studios which were primarily into film making and distribution.
You’ve held key legal positions at prominent entertainment companies such as Eros International, Reliance Big Entertainment, and Phantom Films. Could you highlight some of the unique challenges you faced in negotiating and executing agreements in the dynamic world of film production, distribution, and intellectual property rights?
As an In House Counsel working for the Media & Entertainment Studios it is mandatory to firstly acquire all the intellectual property in the form of copyright embedded in the literary, musical, sound recordings and dance works from the original author of the work. The structuring of the deals are done in such a way that each and every person working on the content is engaged by the producer on work made for hire basis and in lieu thereof the producers have to pay off the monies to these cast and crew people.
On an average we as lawyers have to draft, review and execute more than 100 agreements and contracts on one film or web-series. Most of the crew i.e. the below the line agreements consisting of secondary cast, production artists are templatised and are on automated mode, thus executing them is always a fast track process. On the other hand writer, director and actor agreements are extremely critical to draft and execute as there are numerous clauses to be drafted in the same. The clause needs to ensure that all the intellectual property in terms of copyright and trademark are firstly acquired by the producer and then safeguarded in a diligent manner. Whilst drafting these agreements we as the lawyers representing the producer ensure that the intellectual property existing not only now but in future is also acquired for exploitation. These agreements are more than 15 pages which capture clauses like name, recitals, obligations, consideration, credits, termination, consequences of termination, representation and warranties, indemnity, miscellaneous etc. along with the annexures.
The unique challenges to close these agreements are to get all the lawyers representing the respective talents on the same page and align with the business understandings of the project. Most of the clauses are not acceptable by the producers as the demands from the talents are much more which are beyond the given approved budgets. Hence we either get on con-calls or sit across the table with the lawyers of the actors, writers, directors and musicians to arrive at a consensus wherein all the parties can amicably agree with each other and get the clauses drafted accordingly. Once all the parties have given their approval on all the clauses then the final approved version of the document is circulated amongst all the parties for confirmation and then proceeded towards execution thereof.
The other challenge is that a lot of time goes in negotiating these clauses and commercial understanding of the deal with the lawyers of these talents. We have spent at times more than 10 human hours in a single day negotiating these agreements and turning it around for execution within the next 36 hours. These are the times when our skills and abilities to deliver our work along with people handling skills are being put to test. At no point in time can we afford to lose our patience or get aggressive with the opposite party lawyers as media and entertainment is a very close knit industry and we have to work with such people time and again.
As a Partner at JP Legal Corp, you’re deeply involved in content production agreements and project viability assessments. How do you navigate the delicate balance between creative freedom and legal constraints in the entertainment industry?
JP Legal is best known for providing its clients end-to end services i.e. from Script to Screen.
JP Legal provides personalised services to its clientele wherein its involved in the processes of content making right from the time the literary works for such content is being developed by the writer which is engaged by the Producer.
Once the first draft of the script is being developed JP Legal reads the same and points out the red flags i.e. if there are any names of real persons mentioned in the script, branded products are showcased in the story line, any third party copyrighted materials (i.e. paintings, news footages, photos, music) are used in the script. This is done to ensure that none of the third-party copyrights are infringed in the script. Further in the event any footage, paintings, music is forming a part of the story line, then JP Legal initiates the License Agreements with the copyright owner and producer of the content and legally acquires the license to showcase such third-party material in the content.
Once the final draft of the script along with the above necessary changes suggested by JP Legal is locked by the Producer, then JP Legal trains the production team about the Dos and Don’ts to be followed whilst actual filming of the content to avoid any third-party copyright infringement issues.
In the meantime, whilst the script is getting locked and pre-production period of the content is under process, JP Legal drafts, reviews and executes all the Above the Line Agreements (i.e. Agreements for the Writers, Actors, Director, Head of Departments) and Below the Line Agreements (i.e. remaining crew) and hands it over to the production house. Under these agreements the obligations, representations and warranties of each cast and crew is detailed in depth and all the intellectual property is acquired by the Producer from them in universal perpetuity in lieu of the agreed consideration.
Since Producer can be the assignor of the exploitation rights of the Content, JP Legal also drafts, reviews and executes agreements for Theatrical Distribution Rights of the Film, Non-Theatrical Distribution Rights Agreements like Satellite Rights, OTT Rights, Music Rights etc. with third parties. All these agreements ensure that the content is commercially exploited on every available window worldwide.
The new area of focus and revenue generating window for any content produced is the over-the-top platform. In the year 2020 when the world was hit due to the Covid19 Pandemic OTT’s role became more significant in India as the audience had no other source of entertainment sitting at home.
The top 3 OTT Players are Prime Video, Disney Hotstar and Netflix, other Indian OTT players are Zee5, SonyLiv, Voot, JioTV, Alt Balaji and many others. On an average these OTT platforms require a new show every fortnight of the month in order to cater to the audience of every genre quenching their viewing thirst and keeping them engaged and holding on to the respective content available on the OTT platform.
Most of the OTT players prefer to have content which is based either on the books, real life stories, old TV shows etc. So, the OTT platforms acquire the requisite rights for developing these web-shows from the book publishers, real persons on whom the show is being made or from the satellite companies with whom the old TV show rights are acquired accordingly. If the OTT platforms have any slightest doubt about any underlying rights not being cleared then they will not showcase such content.
Most of the clientele of JP Legal are now inclined towards making content for the OTT platforms, hence at each stage JP Legal is involved with their clients to produce the content as required by the OTT Platforms in accordance with their rules and regulations. In order to be a support system to the clients towards production of the content for OTT Platforms, JP Legal has to from time to time be abreast with the applicable laws of the land and the current market scenario as we not only are a legal function but extend our support to commercial aspects of the content to ensure that the producer earns maximum revenues from the production of such content.
In the Indian content creation industry, a writer is usually considered the most important person to create intellectual property in literary works. Thus, when an audio-visual content piece is developed, JP Legal ensures that a writer’s agreement (s) is elaborately drafted and executed to ensure that the writer has written the original script for the audio-visual content. But, of course, unless the script/story is an adaptation from a book or is a derivative work developed based on original content, then such aspects are in depth captured in the writer’s agreement. Similarly, music composers who create musical works, directors directing the content and the actors who are also part of embodying artistic works are important copyright owners of the works. Thus JP Legal ensures all the assignment of the intellectual property rights stemming from their work is assigned to the Producer.
In the event any of our client is interested in producing a content based on the published Book or remake the content in another language, then we at JP Legal conduct a thorough due diligence of the chain of title on all the underlying materials of the original content is clear from any third-party infringement ensuring that all the intellectual property rights are flowing well from the original author/creator to the final exploiter/producer. Thus, to ensure the same, JP Legal will draft and execute numerous rights acquisition agreements to acquire the original rights from the original copyright owner or author.
As mentioned above JP Legal is appreciated by all their clients because there is JP Legal’s legal and commercial in-depth involvement in each and every content which is created by its client, unlike other law firms who only provide a production pack to their clients. This really sets JP Legal apart from all the other law firms.
Whilst JP Legal ensures that the creative bend of the director is always safeguarded with the legal implications and regulations to ensure that there are no future litigations on the project and all rights of the project are safeguarded and well exploited in universal perpetuity by the producer and recoup all the investments made towards the content in a diligent and timely manner.
Throughout your career, you’ve received several awards, including being recognized as the Best IP Lawyer among 100 Female Lawyers in India. Can you share the significance of these accolades and how they have impacted your approach to your legal work?
I have been very obliged and humbled to every fraternity for rewarding her the awards and accolades for the work done by me in the media and entertainment industry over the last 17 years. From 2019 when I was an In house Senior Manager at Phantom Films and later at Reliance Entertainment Limited, I have been a speaker at many Intellectual Property Forums in India and also had made submissions of my yearly work done to the respective fraternity to qualify for such awards. Thus to be a speaker on the panel the person has to have in-depth subject matter knowledge and confidence to speak on the stage. With the help of my seniors at work and colleagues I had gathered the strength to be on the panel with other renowned IP lawyers. These fraternities conduct a deep research about my profile and work and my speaking skills and then qualify my profile for the awards.
In the year 2023 I was also awarded the 40 under 40 Rising Star Award by Legal Era forum, JP Legal Corp. have been awarded the Lex Falcon Award in Dubai and many more. These awards and accolades always push a person to work hard and achieve their dreams and take a step towards success and get recognition amongst the legal fraternity.
This year has given me an immense pleasure as Legal500 has once again ranked me as a Leading Individual in the TMT Category – India – Mumbai Focus, this ranking means a lot to me as after extensive research and scrutiny this title is being given to a lawyer. Further JP Legal Corp. has also been ranked in the Tier 2 – TMT category & Tier 3 for IP category for India – Mumbai focus for the year 2024. The Legal500 accolade is considered as epitome for me as it elevates me and the law firm over and above other existing firms.
Your social media presence is quite extensive. How has leveraging platforms like LinkedIn contributed to your professional growth, networking, and perhaps even attracting opportunities in the legal and entertainment domain?
In today’s day and age social media is a blessing for all the lawyers as the pace at which they can connect with the legal fraternity and clients is immense. On Linkedin we also reach out to lawyers who are working in the intellectual property area like trademark, patents and seek their advice as and when required for our projects. Also through LinkedIn we come to know about the current employment opportunities prevailing in the legal fraternity and if we have a candidate for the same then we surely reach out and put in a word for the candidate with the employer.
Further, through the LinkedIn portal, I have been very fortunate enough to connect with the various forums or groups who conduct intellectual property seminars across India. Once connected with these forums subject to my availability and the topics being discussed at the seminars, I participated as a panelist for one of the sessions hosted by these forums. Also time and again my profile has been shortlisted for many accolades and awards which through the LinkedIn portal is being publicised and known to the world.
A few reputed law firms practising intellectual property rights and these law firms on a weekly or fortnightly basis issue magazines which mentions about prevailing laws, latest judgements and litigations prevailing in the media and entertainment industry and they also upload the same on Linkedin. I also follow most of these law firms on LinkedIn and keep myself updated about the media and entertainment industry.
Lastly, over the years I have been conducting numerous legal and business workshops in the law schools at Mumbai, Hyderabad and have taught the students about copyright law, drafting agreements and nuances of media and entertainment business. Through the LinkedIn chat box these students also get a chance to interact with me and ask their concerns and seek career guidance for themselves. I surely respond to each one of them as and when time persists.
Thus LinkedIn is a great social media platform for professionals to showcase their career progress, achievements, accolades and seek information on various related topics. I make sure that my LinkedIn profile is well updated and intact with the latest information and news related to herself and JP Legal Corp.
Considering your achievements and experiences, what advice would you give to recent law graduates aspiring to make a mark in the field of entertainment and media law, or law in general?
Today’s generation has a lot of advantages of having access to a lot of social media platforms which provides them with a lot of knowledge and current information. Over the period of years and working experience I have realized that a person has to be evolving with the time and have a complete control and know-how of its surroundings along with current legal and technical knowledge of gadgets.
When I conduct the workshops in the law schools, I emphasize and encourage the students who want to pursue media and entertainment law to firstly study contract act and copyright act in depth, along with that have a fair idea about trademarks and patents. These students should be inclined towards drafting, vetting, negotiating and executing agreements prevailing in the media and entertainment sector. If a student wants to join a studio or production house, firstly that student should acquire knowledge about the businesses conducted by such a company and have a hands down experience in knowing the different types of agreements which will be executed for a particular deal.
In the media and entertainment sector the law students should understand that more than legal knowledge this industry functions based on mutual trust and confirmation between the parties and also respect and value the sentiments of the persons creatively involved in the process of content making, thus firstly the student should have people’s management skill within themselves. Also this industry is very volatile and growing thus the student should be open to learning the new aspects of the business and be able to cater to the same.
Lastly, this industry has no fixed working hours, hence the student should be completely passionate about the industry to work for long hours. Students should have knowledge about the business and have zeal towards working in the industry. To their seniors this will showcase their sustainability in the industry. Also this industry requires a lot of hard work and one should be ready to give their best towards the legal work. Always keep yourself updated with the latest judgements, industry know-how, local laws, commercial deals happening across the industry all this will provide skills and abilities to negotiate the deals in better manner and get the best commercials for the clients.
Can you share some insights into your journey in the legal profession and how you decided to specialize in dispute resolution, particularly in areas such as arbitrations, insolvency, and regulatory practice?
Being the fourth-generation lawyer in a family of reputed criminal lawyers, it was clear that I will build my career in dispute resolution. During internships at various prestigious law firms in Delhi, I had the opportunity to work in various areas of practice in litigation, including Arbitrations, Company Law and Securities Law, which eventually opened new horizons for me. I began to realise that with increasing tribunalisation and diversification of the legal field, one cannot have a short-term vision. I believe that in our legal profession, initial three to five years are most crucial for self-development and therefore, in order to gain as much practical exposure as possible in my initial years, I ventured in all practice areas by associating with senior professionals specialising in different areas like Civil Trials, Company Law, Arbitrations, White Collar Crimes, Telecommunication Law, Electricity Law, Securities Law, Service Law and Constitutional Law.
You have extensive experience representing clients in various high-profile cases before different courts and tribunals. Could you highlight a case that you found particularly challenging or rewarding, and what lessons did you learn from it?
Many of the cases, argued by me, have been widely reported by news and legal journals, ranging from landmark judgments in Arbitration, Insolvency and Commercial Law issues to the judgments granting bail in Delhi Riots case and establishing the principle that ‘holding weapon is not a fundamental right’. I have worked on numerous high-profile cases, including those involving leading FMCG companies, real estate developers, hospitality group, electricity transmission cos., 2G spectrum allocation trial proceedings, challenging constitutionality of provisions of Companies Act, as well as cases related to SFIO, EOW, ED prosecutions involving hundreds of crores, and SEBI and FEMA violation cases. Each of these cases has been a different learning experience, particularly, in forming strategies to build the case in a manner that achieves the desired relief.
I always believe that litigation is akin to a game of chess where you must anticipate three to four steps of your opponent’s preparation accordingly. With time, I have also learned the importance of identifying the “fulcrum of the case”, that one crucial point in the brief around which the case needs to be built. Proficiency in drafting and research is invaluable in devising the right strategy. However, it’s important to emphasize that in my philosophy, I do not discriminate between cases or compromise my level of commitment based on factors such as monetary value or property valuation, or the stature of the individual / organisation involved.
Your career includes handling SFIO, EOW, ED prosecutions involving hundreds of crores and SEBI and FEMA violation cases. How do you navigate the complexities of economic offences and regulatory issues while dealing with such cases?
I have handled economic offences, regulatory violation proceedings and white collar crimes ranging from alleged Ponzi Schemes to alleged manipulation of accounts, incomplete disclosures to regulatory authorities and the 2G spectrum allocation process, where the alleged quantum is in multiples of hundred of crores based on initial investigations., These cases are unique as they require an understanding of accounts, commercial law, criminal intent and ultimate loss or injury caused. Additionally, one must gauge the aggrieved party’s nature of loss or injury caused and accordingly analyse the case. When representing clients in such cases, I adopt the simplest approach of assuming the client is placed at the weakest point and start self-questioning regarding the alleged act as presented, level of involvement shown, possible intent and natural consequences or repercussions on others as well as on the client.
Having worked with various senior advocates and legal luminaries, how has that shaped your professional growth and influenced your approach to legal practice?
In the past 16 years, I have been fortunate to work closely with many legal luminaries, senior advocates, namely Mr. Mukul Rohatgi, Dr. Abhishek Manu Singhvi, Mr. Sudipto Sarkar, Mr. Amit Sibal, Mr. Amarjit Singh Chandhiok, Mr. Dhruv Mehta, Mr. Neeraj Kishan Kaul, Mr. Arvind Nigam, Mr. Ashwini Kumar Mata, Mr. Mohit Mathur, Mr. Vikas Pahwa, Mr. Tarun Gulati, Mr. U.K. Chaudhary and my mentors Mr. Meet Malhotra, Mr. Vivek Kohli and Mr. Sumeet Pushkarna.
From my interactions and close work with all these respected senior advocates, I have learned that one must be a master of the facts of their brief. The entire facts, pages and interconnection of different documents must be mapped in your mind so clearly that you can anticipate the questions from the Bench and opponents and be ready with references in the case file instantaneously. While arguing in Court, you cannot leave grip of the facts because sometimes, you need to frame the argument thinking on your feet. Clarity of thought while preparing the case and explaining the case or arguing in Court is the most crucial aspect to be learned.
You have worked with government departments such as the Central Government, State Government, departments like Delhi Electricity Regulatory Commission, Delhi Transport Corporation, Delhi Jal Board, Employees’ Provident Fund Organisation. How has your experience with these government bodies influenced your approach to handling cases and managing client expectations?
Working with Government Regulators and Departments has been an enriching experience for me. I have had the opportunity to handle a variety of issues, ranging from defending constitutionality of Acts / Rules / Regulations to defending discretion in approvals, licensing, allotment of tenders, as well as intent and implementation of policies & schemes and also dealing with service law related issues.
Being a government lawyer is a position of utmost responsibility. It requires careful handling of confidential files and also defending executive actions, each of which is taken after detailed deliberation and approvals at different levels within the concerned department and ministry. I must commend government departments for their diligence in adhering timelines granted by Courts for preparation of pleadings or compliance with any interim or final decisions. In recent times, government departments have significantly ramped up recruitment of legal officers, leading to an overall improvement in case management at departmental level.
As an Advocate-on-Record with a significant presence in the Supreme Court, could you share some insights into the dynamics of presenting cases before the highest court in India? How do you approach advocacy in such a distinguished forum?
As an Advocate-on-Record, when filing pleadings or presenting cases before the Hon’ble Supreme Court, it is paramount to be thoroughly knowledgeable about the subject matter of the case. Being well-read extends beyond understanding the legal issues at hand, it also entails being familiar with judicial precedents and legal developments pertaining to the relevant statute.
The Hon’ble Supreme Court plays a pivotal role in the ongoing process of evolution of law, adapting to changing societal norms and refining legal complexities. This includes redefining principles of bail, fundamental rights, shaping jurisprudence of economic offences or commercial laws. Therefore, it is imperative to possess a strong foundation of legal knowledge when assisting the Bench.
Considering your extensive experience, what advice would you give to law graduates who are entering the legal profession today, especially in terms of specialization and adapting to the ever-changing legal landscape?
As I mentioned earlier, the initial three to five years in the legal profession are extremely crucial for professional development. Certain good practices, such as reading judgments, if cultivated since the beginning, prove invaluable in the long run. When I refer to “reading”, I don’t mean merely skimming legal news or excerpts of judgments available on various portals but reading the entire judgment – the original text.
Learning should not be confined to assignments alone. It’s only when you immerse yourself in reading and compiling research subject-wise that you can not only identify your areas of interest but also be well-prepared to adapt to the ever-changing legal landscape in any field of law.
Can you share with us what initially inspired you to pursue a career in law, and how did your journey in the legal field begin?
My father who is a practising lawyer inspired me to become a lawyer. He believed that my analytical skills, command on languages and oratory skills would get me immense success in the legal profession. During my college days I interned with some of the best senior lawyers of the country and was mesmerised by their personalities and their court craft. I aspired to become a senior counsel one day and that’s why I started my career as a litigator. I started my career with my father but shortly thereafter joined the office of a young and successful lawyer in Tis Hazari District court. With my mentor and first boss I got the opportunity to work on some very high stake white collar crimes cases as off-counsels for tier 1 law firms. I was taking up my own matters as well as assisting my senior in his matters. After 4 years of litigation I felt I was stagnated as I had ready playbooks for all kinds of criminal and civil litigation and the cases progressed very slowly. I felt I should expand my horizons and learn a little bit about corporate legal work before I can decide which way to go.
At this time I got the opportunity to work in the legal department of a popular Indian mobile phone company (Micromax) where I got to draft,review and negotiate commercial agreements for the first time. During my two years of working with the said company I learnt immensely about business and the role of lawyers in ensuring good business hygiene. I would work directly with business heads of various departments and get to learn in detail about their respective departments. I understood the scale of legal operations that are there in big corporations and how to manage them using available digital tools. I also learnt how to get things done by making interpersonal bonds with people which I could never learn as a litigation counsel. Later, I started my own boutique law firm with a few of my friends from law college and started providing comprehensive legal services to startups in NCR including disputes resolution, general corporate, M&A, IPR, compliances etc. In the year 2022 I decided to finally start working on my long standing dream of starting my own business in legal-tech space and that’s when i incorporated my own company to develop a B2B legal tech SaaS platform under the brand name “TrueCounsel”
Versatility in Legal Practice:
Legal profession is more art than science and although I do believe in the importance of specialisation, I feel a good lawyer can do anything and everything. Many great lawyers choose to specialise in one area of law but if needed they can take up any kind of challenge. A lawyer who has the capability of representing a client before the Hon’ble Supreme Court of India, can also represent a client in an international arbitration, can also negotiate a high stake deal, can also become a politician, can become a great entrepreneur etc. The level of preparedness, meticulousness, foresightedness and oratory skills that are expected of lawyers, make us ready to take any challenges head-on and with ease. We are mostly performing and at best of our behaviour be it before a court or in a virtual meeting or even when casually meeting anyone in our social circle.
You have expertise in both litigation and corporate legal work. How did you find yourself navigating both these aspects of law, and which area do you find more challenging or rewarding?
I find myself navigating between all aspects of law quite smoothly. I believe good research is the key to do well in any area of law or business or technology. I like to take on challenging problems and solve them by sheer hard work. All areas of law are equally challenging and rewarding in my experience and I feel that I thrive under pressure. Whenever I feel that I have become comfortable and bored, I try to take on a new and bigger challenge for myself. Presently I am focussed on learning how to mentor and train the young generation of lawyers which is very different from my generation and becoming a good leader. Also I am facing the challenges of being a tech founder and running a highly competitive business which is very different from being a lawyer.
You mention a strong aptitude for managing large volumes of corporate disputes using the latest technology. How has technology played a role in your legal practice, and how do you see it shaping the future of dispute resolution?
The first time I started managing huge volumes of agreements, consumer disputes and recovery matters as an in-house legal counsel, I realised this was completely different from being a litigator. This was the first time I used Microsoft Excel with the help of my boss and second mentor who is also a Chartered Accountant. I understood the importance of using digital tools effectively in order to manage large volumes of data. I had been using technology for legal research during my litigation days already along with OCR tools for extracting data easily for drafting but beyond that I did not know much about the need of tech in the legal profession. This was the time when companies such as ProVakil, Vakilsearch, MyAdvo, Mikelegal etc. had also come up with the objective of solving major pain points in the legal industry using technology. These companies provided solutions for easy discovery of legal professionals, contracts workflow management, automatic updates on court cases, enforcement of IPR etc. This caught my interest immensely as I could see that any problem can be solved using technology and that India is booming with a tech workforce which can create any kind of tech very fast. During the Covid times, the necessity for incorporating tech in legal practice got highlighted and we saw fast advancement in this direction.
I feel that increased technological advancement in legal practice will create better opportunities for young lawyers, will lead to increased transparency, lower rates of disputes, faster dispute resolution, standardisation of legal fees and overall improvement of the legal system which directly impacts ease of business.
Could you share one or two experiences representing clients in high-stakes disputes that have left a lasting impact on your approach to legal representation?
During my initial litigation days and also when I was working as an in-house counsel, I got to work on some very high stake disputes involving foreign entities. I got the opportunity to work with foreign lawyers and I was highly inspired by their inquisitive approach towards understanding Indian law. I drafted memos and legal opinions which were then vetted by tier-1 Indian law firms and finally shared with these foreign lawyers and that taught me how to appreciate law from an outsider’s perspective. I became more critical and inquisitive about statutes and legal provisions. Also I learned the importance of strategising in detail at the very commencement of a dispute and factoring in all possible outcomes of every step well in advance so that you are never caught by surprise. It also taught me how to manage voluminous documents and data effectively in order to succeed in any dispute because more than law, the facts make or break a case.
Moving on to your current role as a Partner at Ortis Law Offices, what prompted this transition, and how has this role differed from your previous experiences?
When I merged my law firm with Ortis Law offices, I made a hard decision to stop doing everything and focus completely on corporate legal work. This decision was prompted by the need for specialisation. I had been doing everything that would come to me and even actively generating work in all possible directions but I realised that although this keeps me motivated, it is not very effective in many ways. I realised that once you have more than 10 years of experience, you must pick an area of law and focus completely on it while generating other work for your partners in the law firm. This creates a good structural foundation for scaling up your legal practice. At Ortis Law Offices I learnt how to be a good mentor and senior. Earlier I would expect a bit too much from my juniors and as a result would become very frustrated with them. This led to low motivation and a toxic environment in my team but my senior partners at Ortis Law Offices taught me how to keep your team happy and motivated and give them space to blossom. Also, while working with other partners at the firm I learnt a lot more about working with MNCs and big clients than I had in my earlier experience.
You’ve been involved in various acquisitions, funding rounds, and legal proceedings. Could you highlight a recent case or advisory role that stands out to you and share some key lessons or insights gained from it?
Recently I worked on the acquisition of a company undergoing financial distress wherein I had to represent the said company and its founders. At the same time I had to negotiate settlements with the creditors of the company. This was a very stressful and hectic project wherein I learned how to keep calm and stand your ground under tremendous pressure while representing the losing side in a transaction.
As someone with over a decade of experience in the legal field, what advice would you give to law students or recent graduates who are starting their careers in law? What lessons have you learned that you believe would be valuable for them?
My only advice to young law students and lawyers is to do as much freelance work as possible. I believe that while working with seniors or in a law firm structure or as an in-house lawyer one tends to have huge scope for error and a lot of cushion but when you freelance you are directly answerable to the client which teaches you professionalism at a whole different level. It teaches you how to value their time and provide the highest quality of services that you can.
Another important advice is that you must keep adding skills in your arsenal. The moment you stop updating your skills you become obsolete and redundant. I recommend that the young lawyers should use as much technology as possible while doing their research, drafting or any other work to increase efficiency and quality of their product and keep a lookout for the latest advancements in legal tech.
Sir, could you please share with our readers how your journey in law began and evolved, leading you to specialize in commercial litigation, arbitration, and mediation?
I had intended to join the Indian Air Force as a reconnaissance pilot rather than practice law. The National Defence Academy in Pune required unaided 6/6 eye vision as a visual criterion and a passing grade in mathematics and physics in 12th standard as an educational requirement for admission to the Air Force wing. However, when I was in my early teens, I developed myopia and found that I struggled with mathematics. It implied that I wouldn’t even meet the eligibility criteria to take the entrance exam. At first, I was dejected, but as they say time is a great healer!
Years passed by and in my high school years, I developed an interest in civics and business studies which contained chapters on constitution, business law and ethics which propelled me to take up commerce stream in 11th standard and eventually I pursued undergraduate course in law. I took up internships with an independent counsel, LPO and law firms to understand different facets of law and organizational structure of lawyers. Initially, I worked on a bouquet of dispute resolution matters,
My work included inter alia real estate, testamentary, writ, arbitration, commercial, company, banking, labour and with the passage of time, I realised that my area of interest was in commercial litigation, arbitration and mediation.
You’ve achieved significant recognition, being enlisted by Forbes India and acknowledged by The Legal 500 and with experience across various industry sectors, from aviation to real estate, you’ve covered a wide array of legal areas. How do you manage to navigate and excel in such diverse practice areas?
I believe to excel in diverse legal practice areas, a thorough understanding of facts and legal issues, effective strategy and planning, and time management are crucial. Keeping abreast of recent updates through legal publications is also essential.
A successful lawyer should adopt a personable approach, comprehensively understanding the client’s business, and creatively using resources to address the legal issues. In my view, continuous learning and dedication to provide quality support to my clients drives my motivation to excel. In addition to this, a successful lawyer must imbibe the spirit of learning throughout one’s career and be able to creatively use its resources to fulfill the requirements of the client.
Your academic background includes an LLM in International and Commercial Law from King’s College London. How has your international education shaped and influenced you?
Pursuing a master’s degree in London on a scholarship gave me a great deal of exposure to a relatively different university pedagogy and to students from diverse backgrounds. The subjects were more advanced and in-depth than those I studied in the undergraduate law program and writing assignments and thesis helped me develop my research and analytical skills. Most of the assignments which were given to us revolved around practical legal issues compelling us to apply our legal knowledge in real-world settings.
Pursuing a degree abroad also made me become self-reliant and independent. I think when you face challenges independently, you develop resilience and confidence which benefits you in various aspects of life.
Interacting with fellow international students and locals enabled me to expand my network. Building friendships establishes a global alumni network, expanding your horizons and introducing you to diverse ideas and perspectives that may not have been part of your previous considerations.
From your independent practice to your current role at Fox & Mandal, you’ve navigated various professional settings. How has this journey contributed to your personal and professional growth, and what key lessons have you learned along the way?
Working in diverse work environments enabled me to understand the perspectives and challenges one goes through in its legal practice. For example, in an independent counsel setting, one needs to pay attention to the legal cases as well as take care of administrative tasks such as billing, operational requirements of the setup and HR aspects etc. However, in a law firm you might be spared from the administrative responsibilities and focus only on your work that has been assigned to you.
It is essential to know and understand your role in each professional setting. Once this is clear in your mind, it will be easier to handle and navigate the work and the expectations of your seniors and your team. Another thing to remember is that the learning in this profession never stops. The law, and the practice, is constantly evolving. You either evolve with it or be left behind.
In my short professional journey, I have learnt that one must be open to embrace new opportunities. It is only when you open yourself up, wonderful opportunities come your way to help you polish your skills and be instrumental in your professional and personal growth.
For law students and recent graduates aspiring to build a successful career, what advice would you give based on your own experiences and observations within the legal industry?
I believe law students and graduates should act like a sponge trying to absorb knowledge and information from wherever they receive, be it reading an article/newspaper/blog, or listening to the submissions advanced by counsels or observations made by the judge in a courtroom or discussion on a legal topic with colleagues over lunch.
I also believe that one must have the hunger and passion to excel in his/her field of specialization. In addition, one must also be honest towards the work assigned to them. When you give your all to the matter, whether you win or lose, it does not matter, what matters is – did I give my best? If your answer is yes, you will get immense gratification, there will be no regrets.
I’ve learned that being organized and having your case files at hand is crucial, whether you’re conducting your own study or research or briefing a senior counsel.
Another factor which is instrumental in building a successful career is having a mentor to offer you guidance and support when you require the most. I consider myself fortunate to have numerous mentors in my field like Mr. Sanjay Kumar Pathak, Mr. Kanishk Vardhan Shahi, Mr. Sonal Kumar Singh and Mr. Kunal Vajani who have shaped both my professional and personal development. My deepest gratitude to all of them.
Considering the evolving landscape of law and legal practice, are there specific trends or changes that you foresee impacting the field in the coming years? How should aspiring lawyers prepare for these changes?
The Covid-19 pandemic has not only showcased the feasibility of remote work but also emphasized the flourishing potential through effective work procedures and cutting-edge technologies, a concept previously unthinkable.
This shift emphasizes the increasing significance of technology in the legal sector. Whether you’re a law student or a legal professional, proficiency in working efficiently in virtual environments and familiarity with online collaboration tools is essential in the evolving landscape.
One trend which is already making its impact felt across the entire world is generative artificial intelligence (AI). AI is being increasingly used by law firms/companies nowadays for document review, legal research, contract analysis, communication etc. Aspiring Lawyers should make themselves acquainted with legal tech tools and understand how technology is transforming the way we practice law.
Furthermore, the use of blockchain technology and smart contracts is increasing across industries, including legal practice. Despite challenges, blockchain has revolutionized the world of technology and business. Law aspirants should familiarize themselves with this disruptive technology and understand its implications in a wide array of areas such as contract law, regulations, data privacy, intellectual property, and digital currencies.
Finally, drawing on your extensive experience, what advice would you offer to fresh law graduates who are just starting their professional journeys in the legal field?
The early years of this profession are the formative years and important for the fresh law graduates. I reckon in my early years of the profession; a senior advocate narrated the importance of commitment in the profession by quoting United States Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story – “The law is a jealous mistress and requires long and constant courtship. It is not to be won by trifling favors, but by lavish homage.” One needs to devote a lot of time to the subject and not be casual in the approach. Commitment and perseverance are inseparable and work hand in hand for success. As a practicing lawyer, I have realized that learning in this profession is perpetual. Embracing the idea of being a lifelong student is paramount, resonating with the timeless adage, “Once a student, always a student.”
