Can you share your journey and what inspired you to pursue a career in law, specifically specializing in Maritime & Admiralty, International Law, and other related fields?
When I started my law studies, I was interested in exploring the role of law as a foundation of business dealings, especially international business.
I was intrigued to discover the area of shipping was the connecting factor in these areas. Unlike some perceptions, the area of shipping was not small in scope. It encompassed international trade as traders used ships to transport their goods, international finance as banks financed these transactions, and insurers insure these shipments. I later found out there was Wet and Dry Shipping, Corporate or Transactional Shipping and Maritime Arbitration as well.
That was the launch pad for my interest in shipping. With that interest, I took shipping and shipping-related subjects in law school. I was fortunate to be able to study at the National University of Singapore where I was taught and inspired by great teachers.
Professor EP Ellinger was a powerhouse in Banking and International Finance, Professor FMB Reynolds who hailed from Oxford taught Agency and Shipping subjects and the most brilliant teacher was the late Professor Tan Yock Lin who taught Conflicts of law, he was a brilliant legal mind who made difficult concepts in Conflicts easily understandable. I did well in school and constantly called upon what I studied in my cases. I do encourage law students to concentrate well on their studies because these are invaluable foundations for practice.
With over 33 years of experience, you have vast expertise in both contentious and non-contentious areas of law. How did you navigate and develop such a diverse skill set throughout your legal career?
I saw law as a technical field, that cases and principles are building blocks to craft agreements, transactions and eventually. In litigation, I soon discovered that strategy and effective advocacy win cases, the more cases we handle we develop muscle memories which we can call upon in advocacy.
Soon I was able to see that each witness can present a treasure trove of evidence to cross-examine. I also learnt to adapt; as much as we can prepare for a case, the circumstances of a trial or a judge’s questions and directions may force us to abandon our prepared script to adopt a better and different strategy.
I started in litigation. After a few years into practice, I wanted to have both a transactional as well as a disputes practice and I am happy to say I handle both contentious and non-contentious areas.
Some of the notable transactional work in which I was involved was various ship sale and purchase as well as ship financing cases. When MISC the Malaysian Carrier wanted to go into the energy business, it bought Newbuildings from Japanese Yards, these were the Puteri Vessels that kickstarted the business and MISC is not a major LNG carrier. I was the Syndicated Lenders’ local lawyer.
I was also involved in several due diligence of Shipping Companies, Joint Ventures and reorganization of the Shipping Companies Malaysian assets and companies. When the Genting Group sold its luxury yacht Tranquility to a US buyer I acted for the buyer.
Being recognized by Chambers and Legal 500, among others, for your expertise in Maritime Law, what do you believe sets you apart in this field, and how do you approach resolving matters to the satisfaction of your clients?
In legal practice, it is not an effort if we enjoy our work and I do. Every case presents a challenge and a new learning opportunity. I do not believe that I possess any qualities different from other lawyers, apart from that I enjoy what I do.
Some talk of finding one’s purpose in what we do, I don’t agree. I think purpose can change. I would rather believe that we can be energized by our daily routine, by the challenge of difficult cases, or by victories of small wins or overturning of a case on appeal. We need these to sustain us because law is a very involved and demanding profession.
In addition to your legal practice, you’re also a Practising Arbitrator empanelled with various international panels. How does your role as an arbitrator complement your work as a lawyer, and what unique perspectives do you bring to dispute resolution?
Arbitration and litigation are contentious legal practices. The skills of a litigator are important skills for arbitration too, whether one sits as an Arbitrator or as Counsel in Arbitration.
You’ve been involved in notable cases, including arguing the inaugural reported decision of the Malaysian Admiralty Court. Could you share insights into the challenges and rewards of handling such significant cases in the maritime industry?
Difficult cases challenge me. That forces me to figure out how to best strategize the handling of the case, the conduct of the litigation. There will always be an approach we can adopt which can make complex cases managable or make them simple. We need to develop muscle memory for this. Along the way the bonus is when the cases we argue establish law, a principle not established before. I have had a few of these.
Your extensive contribution to legal literature, including authoring key practitioner texts, speaks to your commitment to legal scholarship. How has academic writing and research influenced your understanding of the law and your approach to legal practice?
Some 2 decades ago I found a dearth of Shipping Texts in Malaysia. I convinced LexisNexis (then Malayan Law Journal) to introduce these in Malaysia and eventually, I wrote the original editions of Halsbury’s Malaysian titles in Shipping and related subjects. I was particularly happy to write the Volume on Conflict of Laws; Conflict of Laws issues often crop up in Shipping and International Arbitration.
I also authored the Annotated Merchant Shipping Laws, Forms and Precedents on Shipping which contain transactional agreements. I was later invited by Sweet and Maxwell to write the Chapter on Carriage of Goods by Sea which contains precedent pleadings used in litigation and arbitration.
The writing ensures that I have a good grasp of the law, and this is invaluable when I handle cases. Funnily I have faced opponents in Court citing my writing unknowingly.
Having practiced in both Singapore and Malaysia, what are the unique challenges and opportunities you’ve encountered in each jurisdiction, especially in the context of maritime law?
I started my practice in Singapore before returning to Malaysia. I was very happy when Malaysia established the Admiralty Court in 2010 and I was able to argue the inaugural reported case of the Court in the case of The Istana VI. Since then, I regularly handle cases in the Court amongst others prosecuting ship arrests or challenging them.
The laws applied by the Singapore Courts are not much different and I believe that both the Singapore and Malaysian Shipping Bar have good lawyers. The Singapore ecosystem however is more varied with a healthy variety of international firms including many specializing in maritime law.
As an Adjunct Lecturer in BAC Malaysia’s law school, what advice do you give to law students looking to specialize in maritime law or pursue a career similar to yours?
Be interested in what is taught. Not many universities have maritime law as a subject at the LLB level. Curiosity, Initiative and Hard Work are most important.
It is good to have a specialization in mind, but maritime law can be acquired after graduation. It is important that the young lawyer enters a firm that handles the area. The on-the-job training is much more important.
I have trained many young lawyers in this field, and they picked up the areas well. Tan Sri Nallini Malaysia’s first Admiralty Judge never did Shipping cases when she was a practitioner and Her Ladyship had done much to establish jurisprudence in the area. She is easily amongst Malaysia’s top judges.
In your experience, how important is it for legal professionals to stay updated on evolving legal landscapes, especially in areas like maritime law, and what strategies do you employ to stay abreast of industry developments?
Keeping up to date is crucial. I find that LinkedIn is a great tool to do that because the lawyers do post and share useful content. I do post from time to time too. Reading outside of the law widely is also important.
Lastly, considering your wealth of experience, what advice would you like to share with recent law graduates who are entering the field today, particularly those interested in maritime and admiralty law?
Be curious about learning. Read widely. Seize opportunities when they appear, do not neglect the training experience, it is an invaluable time, not to be squandered. Get onto complex cases early even if the role is a minor one. Your friends and family will be your invaluable support through challenging times.
Can you share a bit about your background and what motivated you to pursue a career in law, especially in areas like Corporate Criminal Liability and White-Collar Crime?
I completed my five-year integrated law degree from Panjab University, Chandigarh in 2012. I belong to a family of non-lawyers, but my sister, who is also a lawyer, inspired me to join the legal profession and showed me its various aspects. I did not have a clear career goal when I was young, unlike many of my classmates and the current generation of students. The only career options I heard from my parents were engineering or commercial airline pilot. Thankfully, my sister guided me towards the law field and helped me make a wise decision.
I started my legal career as a civil lawyer, focusing on Intellectual Property Rights, at the district court level. That was the stage where I discovered my true passion and direction in the law field. Later, I got the chance to work with HMJ Sanjeev Narula, who was then the standing counsel for various government bodies and also had his private practice. He mentored me at the Delhi High Court and exposed me to various fields of law including White-collar and corporate criminal matters. I gained valuable experience working for agencies like the Serious Fraud Investigation Office, Central Bureau of Investigation, the Enforcement Directorate, Directorate of Revenue Intelligence, and others.
When he was elevated, I changed my path and joined Luthra and Luthra. The firm gave me a different perspective and I started representing corporations and individuals instead of government agencies. I think your goals evolve over time, especially after you find out what you are good at or enjoy in the profession. Nowadays, as it has been for the last few years, the motivation that drives me is the intrinsic nature and complexity of an issue or a dispute, which challenges you to come up with creative solutions.
You’ve had a diverse legal career working in different domains such as international commercial arbitration, indirect taxation, and intellectual property rights. How did you develop expertise in these various areas?
I always liked the idea that a lawyer is a jack of all trades and master of none. I discovered early in my career that I had a curiosity to explore more than one area of law. This notion was reinforced when I worked with Mr. Narula on various matters involving different fields of law. His office had a wide range of work, and I got the chance to experience multiple aspects of law. I enjoyed working on new things as it kept my interest alive and my thinking sharp. So, it’s the opportunities that I got and the skills that I developed for them along the way that led to my diverse portfolio. I would say I am the opposite of today’s profession that requires specialization.
Could you describe some of the most challenging cases you’ve worked on, particularly in the context of corporate criminal liability and white-collar crime? What were the key takeaways from those experiences?
One of the most memorable cases that I recall is the series of petitions that challenged SFIO’s power to arrest for fraud under the Companies Act 2013 when it was notified. I was still working for the government then and SFIO had started taking action against individuals and corporations for committing fraud under the companies act after the notification of its arrest powers. It reminded me of the old days (company law board), when I used to assist Mr. Narula in the petitions filed by the government against Satyam computers. Those were the cases where SFIO had done thorough scientific investigation into the affairs of a company, but due to the lack of authority under the old companies act, the agency could only submit a report before the tribunal and seek civil remedies. This changed with the new companies act and especially in 2017, when the arrest powers were notified. SFIO then had broader powers, similar to those exercised by the Enforcement Directorate under the PMLA. With new powers came new challenges to those powers and we had to defend the SFIO’s powers before the Delhi High Court. Since the provision was new for the agency and for us, working with them to overcome the legal obstacles raised by the Petitioners gave us a lot of insight into how these agencies function.
You have extensive experience representing the Central Government. Could you share some insights into working on high-value matters related to sensitive issues, such as policy, treaty investment, and enforcement matters?
I had the opportunity to represent the government in various policy decisions, including its foreign trade policy, international trade protective measures (countervailing duty, safeguard duty – Anti-dumping), investment treaty arbitration matter et.al. One of the most fascinating and enriching learning experiences was when the government introduced the goods and service tax regime in 2016. At that time, I was still navigating my way around the existing indirect tax regime under the Central Excise act and the Finance Act. With the overall shift from a structure that was in effect for decades, it brought a lot of new challenges, ranging from interpretation to implementation to enforcement and so on. That was one of the moments when I witnessed the government and the judiciary being pragmatic and flexible in their approach with the sole aim to assist the assesses.
Then there was the most unique proceeding that the government initiated when Vodafone decided to initiate a second investment treaty arbitration against India, which was based on similar facts. This was the situation where the host country filed a proceeding before its own courts to restrain a foreign investor from proceeding with an arbitration under a Bilateral Investment Protection Agreement, which according to the host was nothing but an abuse of process. This was essentially my first encounter with issues arising out of international vis a vis domestic law – the overlap, comity of courts and the contours of investment protection agreements. Although the government did get the relief it sought – under the proceedings, despite the case being decided against it, the Delhi High Court rendered a judgment covering a lot of issues for the very first time.
One of the most intriguing issues in the enforcement aspect would be the power of agencies like the ED, DRI under the PMLA & Customs Act to record the statement of a person that can be used as evidence against them in a court of law. This is a tremendous power that is somewhat similar to the powers exercised by the Police under the CrpC, but the absence of similar safeguards in their parent statutes made it a very interesting aspect to work on.
Arbitration is one of your main areas of practice. What are some key considerations for businesses and individuals when choosing between domestic and international arbitration? How do you navigate the complexities of multi-jurisdictional shareholders’ disputes?
The reasons for choosing arbitration are constantly changing, but I have seen my domestic clients choose arbitration for a faster dispute resolution mechanism that promises them a quick resolution, especially when the courts are overloaded with their own backlog. However, these reasons are no longer valid as the post award proceedings before the courts cause significant delays that take years before there is any final determination on the disputes. On the international arbitration front, the demand is very simple: neutrality from a legal system that may favor one over the other.
The multi-jurisdictional disputes raise complex issues of jurisdiction, arbitrability of disputes, conflict of laws, enforceability across various legal systems that often become difficult to navigate. The sensible solution is to work with your domestic counterparts who can give you a better insight on the legal system prevailing in their jurisdiction, rather than trying to re-invent the wheel.
You’ve represented clients on a wide range of issues, including cybercrime and social media. Can you elaborate on the legal challenges and strategies associated with these areas, especially with the ever-evolving landscape of technology and privacy?
Cybercrime is a technical and dynamic phenomenon that poses a serious challenge to the law enforcement agencies. They need to be sensitized and equipped to deal with the various forms and manifestations of cybercrime, such as deep fakes, cyber hate, cyber terrorism, and cyber radicalization, which are constantly evolving and outstripping the existing legal norms and standards. They also need to collaborate and coordinate with other national and international authorities to effectively investigate, prosecute, and deter cybercrime, which often transcends the conventional boundaries and categories of the Indian Penal Code.
With your extensive experience in litigation, could you share some insights on how you approach complex contractual and commercial litigation, as well as constitutional matters?
To handle a complex contractual and commercial litigation, start by grasping the contractual relationship and the commercial transaction at the core of the dispute, along with the applicable legal principles and rules. Then pinpoint the main issues and disputes between the parties, and the potential remedies and reliefs that are available or sought. Based on the facts, evidence, and law, devise a clear and coherent strategy and argument to advance or defend the case. Most importantly, prepare and present persuasive and well-structured pleadings, submissions, and oral arguments, and counter the opposing party’s contentions and objections effectively. Moreover, if need be, explore and pursue alternative dispute resolution methods, such as negotiation, mediation, or arbitration, when appropriate and feasible, to achieve a satisfactory and cost-effective outcome. On the other hand, constitutional matters require identifying and raising the constitutional issues involved in the case, and analysing the relevant precedents and their applicability to the facts. The case also needs to be tested on the basic principles, such as jurisdiction, alternate remedy, delay, and latches, which may affect the admissibility and merit of the challenge. The level of difficulty and scrutiny of the challenge may vary depending on the facts of the case.
In your role as a Partner at your firm, you must provide valuable advice to your clients. What are the essential qualities and strategies you employ to provide practical and effective legal advice?
As a Partner at my firm, I have the responsibility and privilege of providing valuable advice to my clients on various legal matters. Some basic tenets that I stick to while doing that is to first and foremost listen and understand their needs, expectations, and concerns with the aim to identify the key points and issues that require consideration. I use my knowledge and experience to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of their case. All of this is done to provide them clear and concise advice (sometimes frank) with accurate and relevant information – which includes explaining the legal principles and rules, the possible outcomes and consequences, and the pros and cons of different options and strategies.
Finally, as someone with a wealth of experience in the legal field, what advice would you give to fresh law graduates who are just starting their careers in the legal profession?
The legal profession is a diverse and dynamic field that offers various challenges and opportunities. You may need to try different options and acquire new skills before you find your ideal practice area or job. Don’t be scared to experiment with new things, especially in the initial year, and adjust to changing situations. You may discover new passions and interests that you never expected. You may not always get the guidance or support that you need, but you can always look for resources and mentors that can help you. Don’t wait for opportunities to come to you but try to create them yourself. Don’t depend on others to solve your problems but find your own solutions. There may be times when you may have to handle complex and sensitive issues and deal with a lot of information and documents. Be cautious and meticulous, reliability and consistency will take you a long way. Never forget, that the legal profession is based on relationships and ethics and requires a high level of integrity and courtesy. You need to be respectful and civil in your communication and respect the rights and views of others, especially your seniors.
Your legal journey spans more than two decades, touching various sectors and contributing significantly to the legal landscape. Please describe your journey including milestones and experiences that have shaped your extensive journey in the legal field.
Throughout my extensive legal career spanning more than two decades, I have experienced numerous significant milestones that have shaped my journey. One such pivotal moment was when I co-founded Law Veritas and had the privilege of serving as one of the founding partners. Prior to this venture, I had gained diverse experiences as an independent practicing Advocate & Inhouse Legal Counsel in various sectors, including the dynamic power industry and esteemed banking and non-banking financial institutions.
However, the trajectory of my journey took an intriguing turn with the evolution of Law Veritas. This evolution led to the establishment of a fresh legal entity known as Law Veritas: ‘North’. This strategic transition not only marked a transformative phase but also highlighted the importance of change and the strategic cultivation of a new frontier for the future. This new entity opened up exciting possibilities and opportunities, allowing us to explore uncharted territory and expand our reach in the legal industry. It was a significant milestone in my journey, representing growth, innovation, and a commitment to excellence in legal services.
Furthermore, amidst these exciting developments, I assumed the esteemed position of National Legal Head at a prominent Non-Banking Finance Company, which stands as another monumental milestone in my career. It provided me with a platform to navigate and significantly contribute to the intricate legal landscape within the financial sector, fostering continuous growth and the refinement of my expertise in the legal domain.
Each of these milestones, from the role of National Legal Head to co-founding Law Veritas to the emergence of separate entity Law Veritas: ‘North’ has been instrumental in shaping my journey and contributing significantly to the evolving narrative within the legal arena.
Beyond the legal realm, you’re pursuing a Ph.D. in Law. How do you balance the demands of academic research with your role as a Managing Partner, and what motivated you to pursue further studies at this stage in your career?
As I navigate the demands of pursuing a Ph.D. in Law alongside my responsibilities as a Managing Partner, I am reminded of a poignant quote by Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam: “Education is the most powerful weapon which you can use to change the world.” This encapsulates the essence of my motivation—an unwavering belief in the transformative power of education and the pursuit of knowledge.
Balancing these commitments requires meticulous time management and a genuine passion for both academia and the practical aspects of law. The drive behind furthering my studies at this stage of my career is fuelled by an insatiable thirst for knowledge and an enduring commitment to continuous growth.
The pursuit of a Ph.D. in Law is not solely about personal advancement; it’s a dedication to delving deeper into legal academia, contributing through rigorous research, and expanding the understanding within the legal domain. Managing these responsibilities demands dedicated planning and unwavering dedication, yet the symbiotic relationship between academic research and practical legal expertise is immeasurable.
I firmly believe that continuous learning not only fuels personal growth but also augments the quality of guidance and leadership I can provide within the legal sphere. Integrating academic insights into real-world scenarios enriches my role as a Managing Partner, fostering a deeper understanding that ultimately benefits the broader legal landscape.
Your journey has taken you through various esteemed organizations, and now as the Managing Partner at Law Veritas: ‘North’. Can you share a career highlight or a particularly memorable experience that has shaped your approach to legal practice and leadership?
Assuming the role of Managing Partner at Law Veritas: ‘North’ was a pivotal moment that completely transformed my perspective on legal practice and leadership. It wasn’t just a milestone in my career; it was an opportunity to merge my legal expertise with the responsibilities of leadership. At the heart of this role was a deep commitment to nurturing talent, particularly among diverse youth, by providing them with employment opportunities and comprehensive training.
The words of Swami Vivekananda, “Arise, awake, and stop not until the goal is reached,” resonated deeply and highlighted the dedication to empowering individuals to become skilled legal professionals.
Recognizing the importance of investing in young minds, there was a concentrated effort to impart essential skills and knowledge necessary for shaping the future generation of legal practitioners. This experience further emphasised that effective leadership goes beyond legal proficiency; it involves creating an inclusive environment that encourages learning, diversity, and personal growth, enabling individuals to realize their full potential within the legal field.
Law Veritas received recognition as one of the 25 outstanding law firms by The CEO Magazine. What does this acknowledgment mean to you personally, and how does it reflect the separate entity Law Veritas: North’s commitment to delivering exceptional legal services under your leadership?
Being acknowledged among the top 25 law firms by The CEO Magazine isn’t merely a cause for celebration; it reflects the dedication and commitment of our team. This recognition signifies our collective efforts and the values we uphold in delivering exceptional legal services.
This acknowledgment personally inspires us to strive continuously for excellence in legal services, reaffirming our core values of integrity, diligence, and client-centricity.
It’s not the end goal but a springboard for Law Veritas: ‘North’. As Steve Jobs put it, “Your work is going to fill a large part of your life, and the only way to be truly satisfied is to do what you believe is great work.” This recognition fuels our ambition for more achievements, setting higher standards, and redefining the legal service landscape. This recognition symbolizes our potential and underscores our unwavering commitment to delivering exceptional legal solutions.
Your legal career spans more than two decades, covering roles from independent advocate to in-house counsel, and now as a Managing Partner. How have you seen the legal landscape evolve, and what trends do you anticipate shaping the industry in the coming years?
As a keen observer of this dynamic and constantly changing landscape, I perceive a crucial need for legal professionals to adapt and embrace technological advancements, all while upholding the fundamental principles of integrity and ethics that define the legal profession. The ability to leverage the full potential of technology, while ensuring the preservation of justice and fairness, will play a pivotal role in successfully navigating the future of the legal industry.
Having said so, while automation and digitization can certainly improve efficiency, they cannot replace the critical thinking and analytical skills that lawyers bring to the table. The role of a lawyer goes beyond just providing legal advice; it involves understanding the nuances of the law, interpreting complex regulations, and advocating for clients.
Outside the legal world, do you have any hobbies or activities that provide a refreshing break and help you maintain a healthy work-life balance?
Balancing a hectic legal career, I find solace and rejuvenation through various pursuits. Spending quality time with family forms the cornerstone of my life outside work, providing a sense of grounding and joy.
Additionally, music is a constant companion, offering relaxation and a way to unwind. While I might not be an avid reader, diving into a book occasionally is a welcomed respite. My interest in current affairs, especially geopolitics, keeps me engaged and intellectually stimulated.
Moreover, my devotion to God plays a profound role, providing spiritual nourishment and a sense of purpose beyond the professional realm. These activities collectively contribute to my work-life balance, ensuring I am refreshed and motivated to tackle the demands of the corporate legal world.
We know about your legal bookmarks, but what’s a non-legal book or genre that you turn to for inspiration or relaxation?
While I’m not an avid reader, I do find occasional respite in non-legal books. Here are four books in that genre that I’ve found insightful:
1. “Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind” by Mr. Yuval Noah Harari
2. “The Bankster” by Mr. Ravi Subramanian
3. “The Intelligent Investor” by Mr. Benjamin Graham
4. “Rich Dad Poor Dad” by Mr. Robert T. Kiyosaki
Each book offers a distinctive perspective, from the broad canvas of human history to the intricate world of finance and personal wealth management, making them insightful and engaging reads beyond the legal sphere.
If you could share one piece of unconventional legal advice that you wish someone had shared with you at the beginning of your career, what would it be, and what advice would you give to our coming generation or those who have just started their career?
Reflecting on my journey, if there’s one cliché piece of advice I’d have cherished early on, it’s this: “Embrace setbacks as a staircase to success. Failures often pave the way for victories in the legal arena.”
For those starting out in the corporate legal field, it is crucial to go beyond the conventional routes. Explore the world of technology, enhance your communication skills, and truly understand the essence of the legal profession. Networking plays a vital role – cultivate meaningful connections as it is the timeless recipe for progress.
Maintain a curious mindset, like an explorer venturing into uncharted territories. Remember, the corporate legal landscape is constantly evolving, so it is important to be adaptable and inquisitive. This mindset will open doors to unexpected opportunities and foster growth in this dynamic profession.
How would you like to introduce yourself to our readers and young freshers.
I am an Advocate-on-Record (AOR) at the Supreme Court of India. I started practising in 2014 with Wadhwa Law Chambers, Delhi before setting up my own full service law chamber (with two other partners) in 2022.
Our key practice areas include arbitrations, Insolvency and Bankruptcy, high stake property litigation, Civil and Commercial Litigation, Criminal and constitutional litigation, Intellectual Property and MSME related litigation with a focus on litigation before Hon’ble Delhi High Court, NCLT/NCLAT and the Hon’ble Supreme Court.
During the course of last 10 years, I have had the opportunity to represent various Indian and multinational companies/government departments before various courts and tribunals in Delhi NCR, Punjab and Haryana High Court, Allahabad High Court, Bombay High Court and other courts in Lucknow, Jabalpur and Himachal Pradesh.
You have a strong academic background, having completed your B.A. LL.B (Hons.) from Dr. RML National Law University. How has your academic journey influenced your approach to legal practice and problem-solving?
I was fortunate to have spent my five years at law school with some of the brightest minds from across the country – who are now some of my closest friends. All of us continue to learn from each other during the course of our respective professional journeys as practising lawyers, at law firms, in house counsels – as we did during our time at law school. Apart from the usual academic rigour, RMLNLU gave me an excellent set of peers.
While law practice can keep you occupied 7 days a week, I try to keep in touch with the academia by teaching seminar courses/taking guest lectures. Infact, preparations for my lectures at NLU Delhi and NUJS Kolkata have often helped me discover new lines of arguments and case laws – which eventually help you while making submissions in court/drafting your pleadings.
Could you describe your current role as an Advocate on Record at the Supreme Court of India? What types of cases do you handle, and what are your primary responsibilities?
My initial years in law practice gave me a lot of exposure to original side litigation at the Delhi High Court, NCLT/NCLAT and District Courts. Original side practice teaches you imperative litigation skills which involves asking the right questions from the client and procuring documents, drafting the pleadings only after one looks up the correct position of law, and most importantly, being precise and not verbose with the pleadings.
It is imperative that a lawyer keeps the above in mind while drafting plaints in Suits, statement of claims in arbitrations and insolvency actions, since the client may not be able to rectify these errors at the Appellate stage.
Having a strong original side practice background always gives you an edge with AOR practice at the Hon’ble Supreme Court. This skill set has certainly helped me with my AOR practice where I take up matters relating to arbitrations, Insolvency and Bankruptcy, high stake property litigation, Civil and Commercial Litigation, Criminal and constitutional litigation, Intellectual Property and MSME related litigation
With your involvement in MSME-related litigation and practice, how do you approach defending recovery actions initiated by MSMEs? What unique challenges and legal considerations come into play in such cases?
With the Government allowing for a completely self-declaration based registration under the MSME Act, a huge number of money recovery actions are now initiated under the MSME Act. If the dispute is contested and not settled before the Facilitation Council, it converts into a regular arbitration. The obvious benefits are better rates of interest given to MSMEs under the MSME Act when compared to regular arbitrations/civil actions for unpaid dues.
However, the self-declaration regime does not require any physical inspection of the proposed MSME unit prior to its registration under the Act. This is resulting in many vendors registering themselves as MSMEs overnight (who may or may not meet the required thresholds of turnover and investments under law for registration as an MSME) and filing their claims under the MSME Act. In my humble opinion, the entire self-declaration regime of registration needs a complete overhaul at least as far as recovery actions under the MSME Act are concerned.
There are however some remedies in the current legal framework to address the aforesaid issue, though not very effective and practical. Some other remedies under the MSME Act include criminal prosecution against the buyer which are not explored routinely but can be very effective, especially in high stake MSME litigation.
In addition to your legal practice, you have a background in writing and travelling. How has your interest in writing come up and what are some of your favourite places you have travelled to.
I used to write ‘letters to the editor’ to various newspapers while I was in school, which my father had suggested. I still have a whole collection of those cut outs kept with me! It is indeed a great way to develop comprehension and improve writing early on – especially for litigating lawyers where you are required to churn out drafts on an everyday basis. I would also write some pieces here and there in college, but the litigation rigour does not allow much time for that anymore.
The RIFF music festival at Jodhpur with its unique dawn/dusk classical concerts, the backwaters at Kerala, the unexplored Turkish coastline and old town Prague have been some of my favourite places to visit.
With a significant portion of your career spent in representing various entities, what advice would you give to aspiring lawyers, What are some key lessons or insights you have learned along your journey that you would like to share with them?
One should explore as many practice areas in the initial few years of practice and focus on reading as many precedents/case laws.Apart from the basics, being a nice and an easy person to work with is a very under-rated skill!
Could you please share about your formative years of litigation practice in the Supreme Court?
In 2007, after enrolling as an advocate, I set off from Kerala to Delhi with only 5,000 rupees in my pocket, driven by burning determination and dreams in my eyes, all in pursuit of my aspirations. The metropolitan city was new, the people were unknown, my Hindi language skills weren’t fluent, adapting to the fast-moving culture proved challenging, extreme weather posed difficulties, housing rents were high, and adjusting to North Indian food was tough. Moreover, at that point, I didn’t know a single person in the legal circle in Delhi. Despite all odds, I managed to survive.
Fortunately, a friend referred me to a Supreme Court lawyer, leading to opportunities to work with two leading law firms in the Supreme Court. I am grateful to my mentor, Mr. Anand Sanjay Nuli, the founder of the law firm Nuli and Nuli. In a short period, I immersed myself in the intricacies of litigation practice, becoming familiar with the procedures of most courts and tribunals in Delhi.
Starting to receive cases from my home state of Kerala, I launched my independent practice in 2012. Following my successful clearance of the AOR exam in 2015 on my first attempt, I never looked back: my contacts multiplied, cases poured in, and my workload increased day by day.
Your legal journey has spanned from handling cases in the Supreme Court to contributing to legal academia. What motivated you to pursue both active litigation and a role as a Visiting Faculty at various law schools? How do these two aspects complement each other in your professional life?
While pursuing an LLM from Amity University, several friends encouraged me to take the UGC-NET exam and fortunately, I cleared it in 2015. Technically being qualified as an Assistant Professor ignited my interest in academia and led me to take up teaching assignments in law schools and business schools.
Active litigation challenges me to stay current with legal developments and sharpens my analytical skills. It offers real-world experiences I bring to the classroom, giving students practical insights beyond theories. Simultaneously, academia allows me to delve deeper into legal theories, engage eager minds, and contribute to shaping future legal professionals.
Teaching keeps me intellectually engaged, refines my communication for the courtroom, and broadens my perspective through a constant exchange of ideas. This synergy between litigation and academia enriches my understanding of legal concepts and enhances my effectiveness both as a lawyer and educator.
Your involvement in drafting Private Member Bills is noteworthy. Can you share a bit about the inspiration behind bills like the Anglo-Indian Welfare Bill and The Waste Management and Recycling Bill?
I provided advice to several Members of Parliament (Lok Sabha), irrespective of their political affiliations. During this time, the Lok Sabha MP named Dr. Richard Hay expressed a desire to address the unique needs and concerns of the Anglo-Indian community within the legal framework. This community possesses a distinct cultural identity and faces challenges that may require tailored legislative attention.
Another legislative initiative involved waste management, aiming to align India’s practices with cleaner standards akin to Western countries. The inspiration behind The Waste Management and Recycling Bill stemmed from the urgent need to address environmental concerns, specifically focusing on efficient waste management and promoting recycling practices. Extensive research on similar laws in other countries formed the foundation for drafting these bills.
Both Private Member’s Bills were introduced in different Lok Sabha sessions, and I felt immensely gratified and proud to have had the opportunity to apply my legislative skills to these initiatives. Dr. Richard Hay later expressed gratitude in his book, acknowledging the significant role I played in the formulation of these two Bills—an overwhelmingly fulfilling experience for me.
As an advocate-on-record with a focus on election laws, you’ve completed a Ph.D. in the same field. What prompted you to delve into this area, and how do your academic pursuits enhance your ability to navigate complex legal issues in electoral matters?
Firstly, I completed my LLM in Constitutional Law. Secondly, while advising a few Members of Parliament, I became increasingly fascinated by the captivating nature of election laws due to their intrinsic connection to democracy, governance, and the fundamental rights of citizens. Both these led me to choose a PhD topic focused on the critical study of statutory provisions and judicial decisions regarding hate speeches for electoral gain.
Besides, my decision to specialize in election laws stems from a profound interest in upholding democratic principles and ensuring fair and transparent electoral processes. Academic pursuits in this field significantly enhance one’s ability to navigate complex legal issues in electoral matters. Researching and studying electoral laws at an advanced level equips individuals with a comprehensive understanding of election procedures, electoral disputes, and policy insights, providing an edge in handling intricate electoral legal issues.
Winning the Family Medicine Advocacy Award in 2019 is a unique accomplishment. How has your legal work contributed to the cause of family medicine, and what role do you see for lawyers in advocating for broader societal issues beyond the courtroom?
The award, conferred upon me by the Academy of Family Physicians of India (AFPI), recognized my efforts in advocating for the establishment of a separate department of family medicine in all hospitals and incorporating a course on family medicine into the MBBS curriculum through a Writ Petition filed in the Supreme Court. Consequently, the Court directed the Union of India to make an appropriate decision, which ultimately resulted in a positive conclusion. This decision significantly benefited family medicine practitioners and millions of our countrymen by supporting accessible and quality healthcare.
Lawyers can play a pivotal role in advocating for broader societal issues beyond the courtroom through various means. One such avenue is policy advocacy, wherein lawyers engage in lobbying efforts and collaborate closely with policymakers to shape laws and policies addressing social justice, human rights, environmental sustainability, healthcare, education, and more. Another effective approach is filing Public Interest Litigation (PIL) or representing marginalised groups, NGOs, or individuals in legal cases that challenge unjust policies, protect civil liberties, and seek remedies for systemic issues. Other impactful methods include legal education and empowerment, raising public awareness through media, Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR), conducting research, and providing data-driven solutions for societal challenges.
Overall, lawyers serve as advocates, advisors, educators, and catalysts for societal change. Their expertise in law and understanding of legal systems position them as crucial agents for advocating broader societal issues, striving to create a fairer, more just, and inclusive society.
You’ve been involved in some ground-breaking Constitutional Bench cases. Can you share a moment from your career that stands out as particularly impactful or challenging?
Several cases I handled were notably challenging, with two among them considered landmark judgments. One instance involved the judgement pronounced by the Constitution Bench in the Sabarimala temple case, permitting women’s entry into the temple. In this case, I filed the petition on behalf of the royal family of Pandalam who constructed the Lord Ayyappa temple at Sabarimala, advocating for the continuation of tradition. This decision caused significant upheaval in the state of Kerala. Another significant case was a Constitution Bench judgement that decriminalized the provision of adultery i.e., Section 497 from the Indian Penal Code (IPC). I filed a Writ Petition representing an activist named Joseph Shine. Both of these cases are widely regarded as landmark judgments.
One instance that I can’t forget in my career was the research and drafting that my legal team did challenging the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) in the Supreme Court on behalf of one Member of the Parliament named T.N. Prathapan. We completed the same in just a matter of 6 hours starting from 1:00 am till 7:00 am. That night was a marathon, intense and unforgettable.
The list is endless, encompassing various subject matters of law—ranging from service jurisprudence to environmental laws, civil remedies to criminal matters, constitutional issues to corporate advisories, arbitration proceedings to family disputes, and more. I am thankful to my colleagues Mr. Vibhor Ahlawat, Ms. Vijayalakshmi Raju, Ms. Somlagna Biswas, Ms. Deepika Singh, and Ms. Disha Puri for their relentless efforts and contributions, without which I can’t be where I am now.
Beyond the courtroom, we know you’re into Artificial Intelligence and enjoy a game of online chess. Is this your way to unwind or do you have different hobbies that help you relax and recharge?
For the past few years, I have immersed myself in reading about Artificial Intelligence (AI). In the realm of litigation practice, embracing technology, especially AI has become increasingly essential. My focus lies on advocating for ethical AI, a concern that unfortunately garners attention from only a few.
Additionally, I am deeply intrigued by billionaire stories. I used to watch their interviews that reveal their tales spotlighting resilience, innovation, and their strategies for success. Exploring their stories unveils their mindsets, work ethics, and pivotal choices. It’s not just about wealth, but also their visions, failures, and societal contributions, making their journeys both compelling and relatable.
Being a Visiting Faculty at various law schools, what motivates you to engage with the next generation of legal minds? Any advice for budding lawyers based on your experiences?
Interacting with budding legal minds as a Visiting Faculty is profoundly fulfilling. The drive behind this engagement springs from a fervent passion for imparting knowledge, moulding future legal luminaries, and witnessing their transformative journey. It’s truly inspiring to play a part in the growth of the next generation, fostering and guiding them through the intricate pathways of the legal world.
My advice to budding lawyers: embrace lifelong learning; hone communication skills; uphold ethical standards all the time; build a strong network; prioritise clients over your personal and political inclination, and be anti-fragile. Always, embrace technology and AI-driven solutions in litigation as well as non-litigation. That’s the future.
Your career journey reflects a mix of corporate dynamism and legal finesse. Can you share a defining moment or experience that led you into the world of law and compliance?
Well, thank you for putting it so nicely. In 2011, I joined the compliance team of India bulls right after completing my graduation from Sri Venkatestwara College, University of Delhi. However, my academic tryst with the Law started much earlier in 2008 when I decided to pursue Company Secretary professional course which primarily introduced me to legal world of corporate law as this course involves an intensive study of different branches of laws namely taxation, finance, business ethics, labor, costing, capital market and securities laws, etc which regulate different stages of a business entity viz. incorporation, operations and expansion, merger and amalgamations, infusion of capital, liquidation and winding-up.
While doing my CS internship, I chanced upon an opportunity to review a NDA, instinctively I expressed my interest in vetting other contracts and my superior guided my way through it and encouraged me to study IPR laws and take the DU law entrance exam. Thus, study of one branch of law led me into another and ultimately to the realm of general corporate advisory.
Managing a team at Saga Legal, leading corporate advisory, and handling compliance – it sounds like a lot on your plate! How do you maintain work-life balance, and what’s your go-to stress buster outside the legal realm?
I wish that it is not seen as an endorsement of the 70 hours week rule in any manner whatsoever, having said thatbeing occupied is my ZEN. Honestly, I really do not find my work stressful though meeting deadlines can be overwhelming at times. But what fun life would be without a hustle!
Also, apart from hitting the sack, setting out on a retail therapy/street food hopping/reading are my next best stress busters.
You’ve been recognized for your achievements at HCL, Airtel, and beyond. Could you share a particularly rewarding moment or accomplishment in your career that brought a smile to your face?
Like any other individual, awards and rewards always cheer my heart up and work as a shot in the arm to strive harder to do better than the best.
It is not every day that you wake up going to receive a gold medal. I really thank my stars to have got one from the Indian Law Institute for earning a diploma in IPR Laws.
Awards and recognition become extremely special when you get them at the time when you least expect it and you are quietly doing your good damn job.
Having said that, I do not want to sound less grateful to any of the opportunities or accomplishments that have come my way in the past 12 years of my work experience. Every “thank you” email /text from a colleague or a client, every town hall meet, every R&R session counts. I always believe and say BEST IS YET TO COME!
Your articles at Bar & Bench showcase a depth of legal analysis. Can you take us through your writing process? What inspires your choice of legal topics, and how do you balance the technical aspects for a broader audience?
Interestingly, topics of all these articles so far have been influenced by the real time legal problem statements which I have encountered during my current advisory practices vis a vis latest legal development impacting the same. It is important to write relevant and informative articles.
I put my best efforts in order to ensure that articles are structured in the most lucid way possible. The preface and conclusion usually are drafted in a manner which can be understood by a business and legal person both. The body paragraphs are mainly where the techno-legal analysis is captured, which exhibit insights from domestic as well as international laws, judicial precedences and commercial and economic factors and impact of the issues in hand.
Beyond the legal realm, your education includes a diverse range of experiences, from Commerce to Company Secretaryship and Law. How has this interdisciplinary background shaped your approach to legal problem-solving, and do you see any unexpected connections between these fields that have proven valuable in your career?
Absolutely, having a multi-skill set always helped me in approaching the legal problems in a more holistic way. My interdisciplinary background has equipped me to adopt a threefold approach to arrive at commercially viable and compliant legal solutions for our clients.
Risk Identification: My foremost concern is to identify risk for the organization (legal, commercial, financial, regulatory) attached to the transaction.
Commercial Impact: Once risk is identified, approach is to eliminate/mitigate any terms which can substantially affect the organization commercially/financially.
Compliance Cost Management: As a compliance professional, I always keep an eye open for compliances attached to terms to be agreed under an agreement. Cost of compliance should never exceed the ROI.
In addition to your legal expertise, you’ve volunteered at the Commonwealth Games in 2010. Can you share a memorable experience from that time, and how do you think volunteering contributes to personal and professional growth?
If I can recall it correctly, our country got this opportunity to host CWG 2010 with great effort after beating Canada in one of the bids. I consider myself fortunate to have participated in a historic event like this. I was put to a screening process in Feb, 2010 and got selected along with other 20k odd volunteers. My general and role specific training were organized at Amity University Campus by some of the distinguished personalities. As a volunteer, I was trained for various aspects like medical support, disaster management, gender sensitivity and protocols (VVIP’s, media and athletes protocol).
During my volunteer experience at R.K. Khanna Tennis Stadium, I organically picked up the skills of project management, prompt decision making, creating and rotating a mix of individuals with right skill as well as will to get the show running no matter what.
Talking about experience, for me as a college student back then, it was surreal to witness national as well as international tennis sensations practicing and playing on the ground teaching the importance of resoluteness, consistency and constantly up-skilling one’s game.
Cherry on top was to see our country’s players win the game that evening and the tunes of the national anthem playing in the backdrop. A memory of this event is still so fresh in my mind and I fondly remember the people I met and the positive transformational impact it had on my approach to deal with life personally and professionally.
You’ve been recognized as one of the “Top 10 Best Women Leaders in Legal Consultants 2023” by Women Entrepreneur India. How does it feel to receive such accolades, and what advice would you give to aspiring women leaders in the legal profession?
It feels really awesome to be adjudged and be put next to my contemporaries and senior colleagues in the fraternity who constantly amaze and inspire me with their exceptional work and leadership. My life motto is She who dares, wins. So I would urge aspiring women leaders in the legal profession not to limit themselves to a mere box of existing ideas and ideologies and keep pushing the envelope. Be enterprising enough to command and create a healthy and safe work environment full of nothing but merits and sheer talent.
Can you tell us about your journey into the field of law? What inspired you to pursue a career in law, and how did you get started in the legal profession
Being a first generation lawyer, I persuaded my family that I want to be a lawyer and make a good career in law. To be very frank, I must say the journey in this legal profession has been a roller coaster ride for me. Let’s dive back in time to know more about why and how I chose the legal profession as a career. In the year 2007, I did my schooling from Cambridge School Noida. I was least interested in accounts so it was easy for me to make up my mind about not pursuing CA/CS Course for sure. After that decision, I decided to pursue a BBA Course and appeared in the entrance examination for 3 continental BBA courses from Amity University Noida. Although I was selected, I was not satisfied at all whether to pursue it or not. Later I came to know, accountancy is also included in the BBA Course, and I couldn’t deal with the accounts subject so decided to move ahead and quit this course. Just like 3C BBA, at that point of time, the 5 years integrated BA.LL.B(Hons) course was gradually evolving. I pursued law with Amity law school, Noida and graduated in 2012. Furthermore, I did my masters from O.P. Jindal Global University, specialisation in Corporate Law in the year 2014.
INSPIRED BY WHOM –
Succinctly to say that, inspirations are so many luminaries of our legal profession, but one person who inspired me was the late Sh. Ram Jethmalani Sir. In the first year of law, I came to know about the Jessica Lall murder case wherein in 2006, the trial court had acquitted Manu sharma in that case. The first time I heard about Ram Jethmalani sir was in the aforementioned case who was defence counsel of Manu Sharma. I did a little bit of research later on. He was noted for his legal acumen and expertise.
Also for the parents, Selecting/Choosing a career option on behalf of their child is one of the major decisions that they undertake in the initial stage of commencement of their child career.
REASON WHY I CHOSE CRIMINAL LITIGATION OVER CORPORATE/IN HOUSE LAW PRACTISE –
By the time I jumped to fourth year in law, I had interned in a few corporate law firms including IP firms such as Sai Krishna and Associates. Prior to that, I already had interned for a month under tutelage of Senior advocate Rakesh Dwivedi Sir and K.K. Manan, Sr. Advocate, chairman of Bar council of Delhi . By this time, I had partially decided that I would go for litigation. It was the year 2012 where I interned for 3 months under tutelage of Advocates Subhash Gulati Sir and Sima Gulati Ma’am (Gulati and Associates), who were and still are my first mentors in this legal profession. These 3 months were fruitful for me as an intern which aided me in taking the right decision of which area of law to practise in coming years.
They have been doyens of the legal profession and have nurtured so many successful lawyers. I feel honoured to have been a part of that law firm (G&A).
You have an impressive and diverse background, working in various areas of law, including criminal trials, original side practice, and corporate matters. Can you share some of the key experiences or cases that have had a significant impact on your career and expertise
In mid-year 2012, I initiated my career in the field of criminal law for 2 years straight and got associated with the law firm of Gulati and Associates. I had a short yet effective stint as a junior advocate for Subhash and Sima Gulati . Having worked under Subhash Gulati and Sima Gulati (Sir and Ma’am) all this while, proved to be beneficial for me as very closely, I learned the tricks, tactics and specially the art of cross examining the witnesses in criminal trials. In fact, for a few months, I started assisting seniors in criminal matters listed in district courts. To name the few it includes dowry related case, dowry death case, murder case and 2G Scam case. For beginners in this legal profession, reading, researching the case laws, interpretation of the laws/provisions and putting all of it in drafting are few of climbing the ladder of district court practice. Next comes the oral advocacy , i.e. to say mastering the submissions/oral arguments before the court, that I learned at much later stage.
So, initially I started appearing in all district courts in Delhi and sought Passovers in complaint matters, heinous crimes /non heinous crimes (both pre trial and post trial stages matters) as well. A person is bound to make a mistake in his /her commencement of his trial litigation and that’s exactly what I did. The one thing I learned from the seniors , at the very beginning in starting 6 months, appearing before MMs (Metropolitan Magistrates) or ADJs/DJs (Additional/Assistant District Judges/District Judges) is that never ever lose your patience during arguments, the ability to handle the situations, be crisp on law and facts and one should know when to counter/rebut the arguments on the questions asked put forth either by the opposite party counsel/Hon’ble Judges.
I can tell you the first trial case I was involved in was of dowry one. In that case, we were representing husband. Senior told me to prepare the tabular chart by highlighting the general allegations and specific leveled against the husband and other family members and accordingly find out the relevant judgments on the issue . I attempted in searching the judgments day and night, on the proposition related to dowry law ,i.e. 498a, but couldn’t find it in our favour. Patience is the key. Then next day, I restarted researching on ratio ,found out the judgments and Just before At the stage of final arguments, cited the relevant judgments before the court, that lead to an acquittal. That was the pride moment for me in assisting senior and in adjudicating the matter.
It is undoubtedly a fact which cannot be ignored that apart from senior lawyers, in an advocate’s life Role of clerk also plays a vital role in building up the career of a lawyer. Clerks are invaluable.
They inculcate practical knowledge pertaining to court filing procedures/inspection of files in courts /High Court/ Supreme court inter alia. I remember Jitendra Kumar (who is now an advocate) is one such person who throughout has aided me in this particular field .
ROLE/ IMPACT OF SENIOR COLLEAGUES IN MY LIFE –
I always keep the relationship with my seniors at the beginning of my career at a high pedestal. No matter how many times you seek help from them, they will clarify your doubts in every possible manner. I discovered it’s essential to be enthusiastic and open to learning new skills, asking for more work and being curious to learn and ask questions. I thank my seniors and acknowledge their indisputable efforts namely as Advocates Sugam Puri, Shikha, Kunal Raheja, Navneet, Khan, Shammy, Rahul, Jatin Sapra for rectifying my mistakes in drafting and other consequential areas.
Post 2015 and till 2021, I had worked with other seniors namely Advocate Vikas Arora, Ardhendumauli kumar Prasad (AOR) (AAG, UP), Sr. Adv S.R. Singh (Former Justice of Allahabad High Court), Advocate Arvind Kumar Shukla gaining abundance of experience in land , service, appointment, education, excise matters ,criminal , landlord tenant arbitral disputes, property matters. I cannot thank my seniors enough for giving me the opportunity to argue independently in various forums/courts.
The regular bail granted to my client I defended in the POCSO case is one of the major takeaways of my litigation that I cherish the most.
Not to forget the landmark judgment of supreme court in Swiss Ribbons case v/s Union of India that upheld the validity of IBC Code in 2018, A separate writ was filed from our office and that was tagged along with several other petitions) and the fate of the judgment decided in the main petition decided in other cases including ours. So, by virtue of the judgment delivered by the 3 judges bench, the matters tagged were disposed of, technically without listening to the side of petitioners, to which I think it shouldn’t have happened.
There are numerous cases which I can’t mention all of it here. So keeping it in short.
You mentioned working with Dr. Pradeep Kumar Rai, Vice President of the Supreme Court Bar Association. What were some of the most valuable lessons or experiences you gained during your time with him, and how did it shape your legal career?
Since I already had experience working with Senior Advocate and briefing seniors on earlier occasions, prior to joining him, it was like a cherry on cake for me. Before becoming Advocate on record, I worked there as a senior associate and handled a variety of matters of the Supreme Court, District Courts, Tribunals as well. One of the memorable experience with him was that as soon as I joined his office in the year 2021, I got the opportunity to brief a criminal matter before Vikas Singh, the then President of Supreme Court Bar association, led by Pradeep Sir. It was an enthralling experience to assist and brief Vikas Sir in the criminal matter. As a young lawyer, it is the duty of him/her to rise to the occasion and see to it that the faith and trust of the Senior should not be shaken. Briefing and assisting senior is two different aspect altogether. The sharpness of mind, argumentative skill, confidence, organized, persuasive, intelligentest are the components of becoming a sharpened advocate.
Amongst so many valuable lessons taught by Pradeep Sir, one of them out of so many of them was:
‘Never do work half heartedly, do it wholeheartedly and with confidence’, Such words motivates you to do better in the longer run. Some of the things that I have learned from him would play a vital part in my long journey in the field of litigation. Essential things before briefing a senior advocate
For E.g. Reading the facts in a crisp manner, make sure to note it down if you are not capable of grasping it initially, note down the provision/law, if any involved pertaining to that case, qua the judgments in your favour or against you, make yourself aware about the day to day judgments of various High Courts/tribunals/forums and of course, of apex court, briefs has to be shorter, highlight the main ground of the case and so on so forth. It is true to say that recognition as a lawyer in the legal field is the prominent one. The face value and the recognition that I had received as a junior of Pradeep Sir is invaluable. It is something which doesn’t last but you have to create your own name to sustain in this profession and that is exactly what happened after working with sir and post clearing advocate on record examination in 2023.
One of your recent achievements is becoming an Advocate on Record at the Supreme Court of India. Can you tell our listeners about the significance of this accomplishment and the responsibilities that come with it?
As a first generation lawyer, It is a matter of pride, honour, privilege to become a reputed part in the highest court of country
Nowadays, the debacle of professionalism and ethical standards dropping day by day in Advocate on records has seriously concerned the judges of supreme court. AOR has much more onus rather than merely signing of the petition. On behalf of the party, an Advocate on Record can file a petition, draft an affidavit, file a Vakalatnama, or any other application at the Supreme Court. A registered clerk assists AOR in procedural aspects.
The court not only requires AORs physical presence but effective assistance from AOR is also required. He is a seeker of justice for citizens of this nation. An AOR is much more accountable than a senior advocate , who is responsible for whatever is written and pleaded by putting his appearance to maintain solemnity of court records. The institution of Aors is to facilitate working of court as mentioned in Order IV Rule 6 of Supreme court Rules.
For the first time, as an intern I entered the premises of Supreme court in the year 2011, at the time of pursuing law (4th year), vacation bench was presiding In the court no.1 where bench of former CJ S.H. Kapadia and J. Altamas Kabir were taking up the urgent matters, I was awestruck seeing the arguments by some of the senior lawyers at that time and then I had decided in my mind that I will soon practise here.
Let me tell you firstly about the Advocate on record examination. Every year the Supreme Court of India conducts an Advocate on record exam for the lawyers who want to establish his/her own practice in the Supreme Court. It is one of the toughest examinations in the fields of law attempted by numerous lawyers. Precisely to say every year around a thousand lawyers/aspirants having an experience over five years or more, so, write this lengthiest exam. And only a few could crack this examination. Consecutively, in Successive years 2021 and 2022 examination approx. 500 lawyers have become advocates on records, prior to this, the numbers were very minimal. At Personal level, the Significance of this accomplishment becomes imperative for two majorly reasons :- Firstly, a non- legal background lawyer cracking this examination, Secondly, it was essential for me to make my name and register it in the Supreme court, by hook or by crook and I did it in the 3rd attempt. Failing in the last two attempts given in 2018 and the post covid, in 2021 were depressing years. Then I found a ray of hope and flushing out all my negative approaches, appeared again and cleared the AOR Examination in my 3rd attempt. They say ‘TRY TRY UNTIL YOU SUCCEED’.
Could you share some insights into your daily work routine and the challenges you face as a legal professional, especially when dealing with cases in the Supreme Court and High Court?
From the past year, I am into independent practice, the timings are a bit relaxed. Prior to this, it was bit hectic and as it should be since a fresher/junior during commencement of his/her practise either in litigation or at corporate, whatsoever the field may be, is supposed to do constant hard work, to be persistent in carrying out various tasks of various courts in order to succeed in legal profession and that’s exactly just like others I had followed the same.
I wake up, have breakfast, drop my kids to school and then rush to the court in early hours as I don’t want my cases listed to get automatically Passover and then to wait for the whole day for my matter to reach. By this way, reaching the court, either its High court or Supreme court or any other district court, I avoid traffic congestion. You have your whole day once I am done with my matter. This is the kind of work I learned at the initial stage of my internship and then carried it off in my early stages of litigation practice.
Above all this, Fitness plays a significant role in shaping my legal career. I have become more focussed, punctual, more energetic, less impulsive after doing some workout in late evening.
Our routines become ingrained in our brains. They are made up of a series of habits. Changing your work routine is difficult, for it requires tackling many habits.
In your extensive career, you’ve handled a wide range of cases and legal matters. Are there any particular cases or moments that stand out as particularly memorable or challenging for you?
From 2012 till mid 2023, I have had encounters with multiple cases in criminal side, civil side, corporate side as well, both at district, High Court and Supreme court. My memories with each case are very special because of which I grew as a lawyer and as an individual , I not only thrived for social justice but also embraced life long learning.
I find matrimonial disputes and child custody cases are the most challenging ones, since you have to fight tooth and nail to defend your client whether it’s a husband or a wife, or the case relates to custody of a child. Mediation plays a vital role in settling the disputes between the parties. There was such a peculiar case where I was representing husband, a retired IAS Officer in multiple cases filed against my client by his wife who was also an retired IAS officer, that is to say, maintenance u/s 125 CRPC, Domestic violence case under section 12, and FIR was already lodged u/s 498a. They were into court battles for so many years and the remedy I could see was through mediation. However, in a number of dates fixed for mediation, the matter could not be solved and it went back to court again and now its sub-judice. So many sittings in mediation and yet marital conflict- issues involved between both aged parties remained status quo and didn’t sorted it out.
For instances some of the cases I assisted and as independent counsel argued for are listed below : –
Acquittal of husband/client in false dowry demand case (u/s 498a, Sec 2/3 DOWRY Prohibition act)
12 Writ Petitions before Delhi High Court against setting aside ex parte order of labour court, filed on behalf of management company to reinstate services of labour from date of their termination along with back wages – notice was issued and Settlement arrived between both management and employees at Later stage.
Statutory Bail granted under POCSO Act
At present, I am handling various arbitration matters with land acquisition, both at district level and high court level, which is a bit complicated but intriguing also.
Given your experience in the legal field, what advice would you offer to law graduates or young lawyers who are just starting their careers in law? What key principles or values have helped you succeed in your journey as a lawyer?
Nowadays, a career in law opens up a plethora of possibilities. Firstly, the law graduates/young lawyers should explore career options and must be decisive in their choice of practise whether its litigation practice, (civil side or criminal side), law firm, corporate practise, judicial services , academics and research, Public prosecutor, Judge Advocate General (JAG ) Officer.
Learning to practice law can be daunting sometimes and it takes some time for junior lawyers to comprehend the technicality and procedural court work. Don’t disheartened, discourage and lose your heart if you are unable to understand the functioning of the courts. You will get it through your sheer hard work, by dint of persistence, self determination. Moreover, read the judgments of supreme court, High courts, Tribunals etc. to enhance your knowledge on various laws discussed in several judgments. Any case, in a free time, if you don’t have anything to do, or not in a mood to research, then peruse constitutional law judgments. Establish your IQ more on constitutional aspects. By reading judgments, you merely not only improve your legal vocabulary, it gives you a better understanding of the law and the legal idioms/ phrases that is being used in the judgments, you can learn it also by continuously reading it. All these you can put it in drafting and in your communication skills which further cultivates in honing your argumentative skills before the court.
You can regularly read whether from online legal search engines or from journals, depending on your preference. In this age of technical advancement, one can now easily access and also learn the art and craft of legal arguments/submissions made by legal luminaries in constitutional hearing matters.
I have come a long way from being a mediocre law student to a lawyer holding the highest position in the Supreme court. I have always been a keen learner, enthusiastic, and determined person. Giving the best in your profession and Being an honest to your profession has been my primary goal. Time management is the key to success. Value the time. I valued the time at each interval of my litigation practice. My next advice would be ‘value the time, don’t waste it. Time won’t come again. Take baby steps at once and keep working hard, success will come your way, if not today, then in coming years.
“AT ANY STAGE, DO NOT UNDERVALUE YOU, UNDERESTIMATE YOURSELF, UNDERMINE YOUR SELF BELIEF, UNDERMINE YOUR SELF DETERMINATION”
As the founder of your own law firm, “Chambers of Kunal Yadav,” what motivated you to start your practice, and what are your goals and vision for the firm’s future?
I am sure that every law student / graduate lawyer has this huge dream of having his/her own law firm. Mostly , some of them initiate the setting up of a law firm, right after graduation , some of them don’t start them at all. While few of them start a bit late. In today’s competitive environment, it’s a challenge for even the most qualified lawyers to maintain and grow a successful law practice in India.
I have quite an experience in various law firms based in Delhi and after witnessing the positive growth of associates , working under a good leadership, thus in a positive environment and working cultures of those litigation law firms, I took the decision of having my own firm. Who doesn’t want to be his own boss , right ?
I had thought of establishing and commencing my own firm some day. Before leaving the last office where I worked, I had completed 10 golden years in the legal profession. As of now It has just been a year as an independent practitioner, let’s see how and where this wind goes .
I always believe that a healthy environment in the law firm should sustain rather than a toxic environment.
As a founder of my new firm, I am looking for new avenues, new recruits which would aid in taking the firm to greater heights.
You have an extensive legal career with experience in various roles and different areas of law. can you share the story of how you got started in law and what motivated you to pursue a career in the legal field?
Choosing a career path is often a journey of self-discovery, and mine was no exception. My initial plan was to pursue journalism. I have always been an unabashed talkative soul, fuelled by a desire to communicate and express myself. I have always been fascinated with languages, especially English, Hindi, and German. So, the power of words and the art of expression held a special place in my heart. Political science was another one of my favourite subjects. All of this felt like the perfect backdrop for a successful future in journalism.
Right after my last board exam, my parents suggested that I explore the field of law, in addition to pursuing a career in Journalism. At first, I was somewhat hesitant. But as they say – curiosity is a powerful force. As I delved into the subjects covered in law entrance exams, a transformation occurred. Legal concepts and the intricacies of the justice system began to grip my imagination. The more I learned, the more I realized that law had the power to shape societies, challenge injustices, and, most importantly, provide a platform to voice my convictions.
So I decided to take the plunge and appear for law entrance exams. To my delight, the study of law ignited a profound passion within me. It wasn’t merely an alternative path; it was a calling I couldn’t ignore.
I achieved a commendable rank in the Delhi law entrance exams, and got my admission to Amity Law School, Delhi (Guru Gobind Singh Indraprastha University). At that time i.e. in 2007, Amity Law School, Delhi was recognized as the 7th best law college in India.
My decision to enter the legal profession is not solely rooted in academic interest; it’s also deeply intertwined with a rich family legacy that has shaped my aspirations. From a young age, I heard captivating stories about my grandfather (Dadu), the late Sh. Jadhugopal Majumdar, who was a renowned criminal lawyer in Bangladesh. Unfortunately, I could never see him in person but his reputation as a legal luminary and his unwavering commitment to justice made a lasting impression on me.
In addition to my grandfather, my family boasts another legal stalwart in the form of my father’s maternal grandfather, the late Sh. Sharatchandra Sengupta. His brilliance in the legal profession was so evident that people at that time used to admire him as the sharpest of lawyers in Bangladesh. He selected my grandfather as his son-in-law, recognizing the extraordinary talent and dedication that ran in the family. The union of these two legal luminaries not only enriched our family history but also cemented the importance of the legal profession as a cornerstone of our legacy. Many of our family members hold a firm belief that, following in my grandfather’s footsteps, I have the potential to carry the torch forward.
How do you manage and oversee a diverse team while handling cases across different locations in your current role as the Founder of the Law Office of Paromita Majumdar?
I firmly believe that effective leadership begins with personal growth and capability development. To lead a team successfully, one must first become a credible individual that others can look up to. A leader must lead by example and by themselves demonstrating the values they expect from their team. It’s a principle I hold dear and consider fundamental to any leadership role. This not only builds respect and trust within the team but also provides a solid foundation for effective leadership.
I also believe that as a senior, you should be well-acquainted with the unique strengths of each of your team members. In a dynamic place like Delhi – where there are numerous courts and tribunals to be covered in a single day – it is important to be able to delegate tasks to the team strategically according to their expertise, capabilities and interests. It’s a practice that not only enhances our productivity, but also encourages their personal and professional growth.
However, I won’t sugar-coat the challenges of managing an inter-city legal team. It demands trust, self-discipline, constant evaluation, follow-ups and introspection. The demands of this profession can leave little room for your personal life. Yet, amidst these complexities, there is a deep satisfaction in doing what you love.
I especially relish being involved at every level, from coordinating with associates outside Delhi to personally representing our clients when required. Stepping out of my comfort zone and practicing in courts outside Delhi has been particularly fascinating. While Delhi has always been my primary place of practice, I have a deep appreciation for the unique procedural intricacies of other cities. I love making professional bonds with lawyers practising in different regions of the country. These bonds prove invaluable when our clients require representation in cities beyond Delhi.
Time management in order to make the travel plans is another challenging aspect, sometimes when I have to attend a matter outside Delhi, and there are matters also listed in Delhi Courts, that is when my immediate team in Delhi comes to the rescue.
In essence, managing a legal practice and a dedicated team is a dynamic and intricate process. It requires a shared commitment to delivering the best service to our clients, a willingness to adapt to new situations, and the ability to work together, even when geographically separated. The satisfaction of this journey is not only in the legal victories but also in the bonds forged and the sense of purpose that drives us forward.
Your career includes experiences in different law firms. How has each experience contributed to your growth as a legal professional, and what key takeaways have you gained from working in various law offices?
My path in the legal profession has been a unique and purpose-driven one, guided by a dream to practice in the top court of the country. From the outset, I harboured an ambition to argue cases in the apex court, even without fully comprehending the need to lay a robust foundation in the lower courts first. After graduating, I approached Madam Bina Madhavan, a well-respected legal practitioner, and expressed my desire to work as a chamber junior in the Supreme Court. However, Madam Bina Madhavan provided me with invaluable guidance. She emphasized the importance of acquiring a profound understanding of the trial courts and the fundamental legal procedures before setting my sights on the apex court. Her wisdom resonated with me, and I am forever grateful to her for steering me in the right direction.
And so, I embarked on a journey of exploration and self-discovery. I joined a chamber in Tis Hazari court, Delhi, and spent a significant period, nearly two and a half years, practicing in the District courts of Delhi. During this time, I immersed myself in a diverse array of cases, including bail applications, matrimonial disputes, cheque bounce matters, cases of cheating, theft, and more. This first-hand experience equipped me with a well-rounded perspective on the legal profession.
Crucially, my time in the District courts exposed me to the nuts and bolts of legal work, which I consider essential for every lawyer. Beyond courtroom appearances, I mastered the art of filing, navigating and rectifying procedural defects, re-filing, handling PFRC work, ensuring the proper service of summons and warrants, and the meticulous process of preparing bail surety bonds. It became evident that the role of a lawyer encompasses far more than courtroom advocacy, and I embraced this holistic approach to the profession.
In 2014, I took a significant step towards my dream when I joined Mr. Ankur Mital, an Advocate-On-Record. He generously provided me with the opportunity to assist him in my first matter before the Supreme Court. This experience was akin to taking my first significant step towards my long-cherished goal.
Subsequently, in June 2015, I joined J.S. Wad & Company, a well-regarded Advocate-On-Record office in Delhi, further deepening my understanding of the legal intricacies involved in Supreme Court practice.
From 2018 to 2023, I extended my horizons by associating myself with various law firms in different capacities. This enriching experience allowed me to continually evolve as a first-generation lawyer, discover my true passion, and build a well-rounded foundation in the profession. After 11 years of hard work and learning, I started the Law office of Paromita Majumdar (LOPM) in June, 2023 and have been enjoying the journey till now. Ups and downs are part of the profession; all days are not good days however there is a different kind of mental satisfaction which I get by doing my own work in my own way. I have a wonderful team of associates who are always ready to accept and meet any kind of challenges that are thrown at them be it late night drafting, urgent filing or handling a difficult client or any complicated legal research. Hence I am glad to have my team which is very supportive and never lets me down in situations of crisis.
In essence, my journey reflects a deliberate and dedicated approach to the legal profession. I granted myself the time and exposure needed to learn, grow, and discern my true calling within the legal landscape. Today, I stand before you as a lawyer deeply committed to the pursuit of justice and equipped with a multifaceted skill set, honed through diverse experiences and unwavering determination.
You have worked on a wide range of cases, from civil and commercial matters to bail applications and demolition cases. Can you share a memorable or challenging case from your current role and you approached it?
When one practices at the pinnacle of the country’s legal system, encounters with idiosyncrasies become an inherent aspect of the profession. In such a realm, parties often find themselves at the culmination of their legal journey, having exhausted all available remedies and received unfavorable rulings from lower courts. It is in this ultimate juncture that they turn to the apex court, hoping for some relief. The most formidable challenges arise in cases where petitioners apprehend to get arrested at any moment or the impending demolition of their properties.
In these urgent scenarios, time becomes a scarce resource, and the preparation of Special Leave Petitions (SLPs) is a task that demands overnight dedication. The immediate pursuit of a hearing becomes paramount, leading to SLPs being drafted hastily and filed the next morning. Amidst these high-pressure circumstances, a particular case from my initial days of independent practice stands out—a case which brought me some recognition in the Supreme Court of India.
This memorable case involved individuals hailing from economically weaker section of society, struggling with demolition notices issued by the Municipal Corporation targeting their homes. Initially hesitant due to strong adverse observations from the High Court, I eventually acceded to their persistent requests and filed SLPs on an urgent basis.
The pivotal moment arrived on the day scheduled for the houses’ demolition at 2:00 PM. At 10:30 AM, positioned at the top of the mentioning list in Court No. 1, I presented the matters before the Honorable Chief Justice of India. Describing the urgency and gravity of the situation, I sought the court’s intervention. The Honorable CJI, acknowledging the exigency, graciously granted a 3-day stay order, providing a temporary relief until the matters could be heard on their merits.
Those 72 hours proved crucial, affording the petitioners a breathing space to fortify their case and secure the services of a senior advocate. Although the SLPs were eventually dismissed due to technical reasons, the experience proved to be a defining and challenging chapter for both myself and my team. It not only showcased our dedication to justice but also served as a testament to our resilience in the face of adversity.
You have empanelled with private companies as their legal counsel, handling due diligence, drafting agreements, and advising on legal issues. What are some common legal challenges companies face in their day to day operations, and how do you assist them in addressing these challenges?
I am a legal counsel for some mid-level NGO’s, IT firms and builders. A prevailing concern among the IT enterprises revolves around challenges emanating from employment contracts and the safeguarding of confidential data. A recent case which I am dealing exemplifies the ramifications of a poorly drafted Non-Disclosure Agreement, wherein the company incurred substantial losses. An ex-employee exploited the inadequacies in the agreement, absconding with confidential data, the company laptop, and important softwares, collectively valued at over 10 Lakhs. Civil and criminal proceedings have been duly initiated against the said employee by my office.
Besides, Trademark clashes also stand out as another recurrent issue for such companies. We often are required to draft cease and desist notices, responding to instances where similar marks are utilized by other entities in the same class of services.
On the builder’s front, a pervasive challenge pertains to project completion issues, often resulting in legal actions instigated by aggrieved home-buyers. I recently aided a distinguished builder in Mirzapur to effectively abandon a project, rescind all allotment letters sans legal repercussions, and resolve outstanding litigations. My approach pivots towards proactively seeking solutions rather than dwelling solely on challenges. The overarching goal is to position the client in a win-win scenario, maximizing outcomes with minimal investments.
Apart from handling the litigation and Arbitration work, my practice extends comprehensively to cover a spectrum of contractual work crucial to these businesses, including franchise agreements, collaboration agreements, and more. Emphasizing the importance of articulating clauses with precision to avert ambiguity, my office diligently ensures the legal instruments align seamlessly with the client’s objectives.
Moreover, recognizing the aversion to protracted legal battles, our clients often seek preventive actions to avoid visiting courts. Most of my clients seek my opinion before entering into any agreement or any kind of arrangement with any party in order to avoid any future conflicts. These facets summarizes the multifaceted support my office extends to the companies with which we are currently empanelled, underscored by a close and collaborative working relationship that occasionally leads to on-site visits for document reviews.
In your role at Legacy Law offices, you managed the dispute resolution team and handled arbitration cases, could you elaborate on intricacies of Arbitration , especially in the context of construction contracts and share any notable cases or challenges you encountered?
Arbitration holds a special place in my legal affinity, primarily due to its non-adversarial nature, emphasizing meticulous evaluation of contractual clauses by an impartial arbitrator. In the realm of construction contracts, arbitration has emerged as the preferred method for dispute resolution. Common issues in construction disputes encompass aspects like payment disputes, contract scope, design discrepancies, quality and safety concerns, and losses incurred due to unforeseen events, such as Acts of God.
In the constitution of arbitral tribunals for construction disputes, parties are choosing a judicious blend of technical and judicial members. This ensures that the tribunal comprises individuals possessing a comprehensive understanding of technical intricacies related to construction projects, often including retired government chief engineers and architects etc. Remarkably, detailed dispute resolution mechanisms are now integral components of construction contracts, tailored to the unique demands of each project, promoting efficiency in both time and cost.
Notably, these contracts often incorporate multi-tier dispute resolution processes, encapsulated in escalation clauses. For instance, a Nego-Med-Arb clause may stipulate a sequence of negotiations, formal mediation, and ultimately binding arbitration. In instances where negotiation, conciliation, or mediation fails to yield resolution, parties often progress to binding arbitration.
In India, the Arbitration and Conciliation Act, 1996, governs the procedural aspects of arbitration. This legislation provides clarity on arbitrator appointment procedures, interim relief from courts or arbitrators, judicial interventions, and the setting aside of arbitral awards, encompassing both domestic and international commercial arbitrations. A nuanced understanding of this Act, coupled with the specific dispute resolution clauses within the contract agreements, forms the pathway to effective dispute resolution.
I remember a particularly intriguing arbitration case involving the Food Corporation of India, concerning the construction of food grain silos, a mere ambiguity in a clause led to unreasonable delay in appointment of the Arbitrators and multiple petitions under Section 9, 11 and Section 14 before the Hon’ble Delhi High Court. Meanwhile, our client’s bank guarantees were also encashed. The crux of the matter revolved around whether the reference to certain rules in the clause was mandatory or if parties had the flexibility to mutually choose alternative rules. Ultimately, a three-member arbitral tribunal was appointed by the court, and the disputes were successfully referred to arbitration.
During my tenure as Associate Partner at the Delhi office of Legacy Law offices, I had the privilege of leading a dynamic team in dispute resolution under the astute management of Mr. Gagan Anand, Managing Partner, and Ms. Sadiqua Fatma, Senior Partner—both exemplary mentors. Under their guidance, I navigated several compelling arbitration cases and secured favorable awards for our clients.
A pivotal moment in my professional journey unfolded when I argued on behalf of a contractor in arbitration proceedings related to the construction of a tunnel in Jammu and Kashmir. While the award favored our client, it currently faces challenges before the Hon’ble Delhi High Court. The crux of the matter revolved around a project suspension, an action not expressly covered in the contract. Despite the withdrawal of a writ petition challenging the suspension, the authority attempted to reopen the issue before the learned sole arbitrator, a move promptly disallowed.
In addition to the tunnel project, I’ve had the privilege of handling various arbitrations involving the construction of tunnels, roads, silos, bridges, and dams, each presenting unique challenges and opportunities for resolution
You have briefed and worked with renowned senior counsels in the Supreme Court of India, what is it like to collaborate with such eminent legal professionals, and how does this collaboration influence the outcome of cases?
During the period spanning from 2015 to 2019, while employed with an AOR (Advocate on Record) firm, I routinely found myself in the privileged position of briefing esteemed senior counsels in India, such as luminaries like Mr. Mukul Rohatgi, Dr. Singhvi, and Mr. Kapil Sibal. Engaging in conferences with these legal stalwarts provided me with a unique opportunity to closely observe their cognitive processes and strategic approaches to various cases. In the presence of such legal luminaries, direct instruction was often unnecessary, as their methodical application of law and logic served as an invaluable educational experience for me.
Collaborating with these eminent seniors bestowed upon me the profound advantage of assimilating their distinctive thought processes. Witnessing their adept and precise application of legal principles not only enriched my professional skills but also cultivated a deeper understanding of the nuances within the legal profession. The result-oriented nature of our conferences necessitated the seniors to expeditiously apply their theories and logics to legal questions, formulating effective solutions and strategies customized for the upcoming hearings.
I remember, in a case where we were unable to formally brief Mr. Rohatgi due to his demanding schedule, he reassured us that he would grasp the matter during the court proceedings. Positioned outside the courtroom, with our matter just 10 items away from its turn, I was taken by surprise Mr. Rohatgi appeared suddenly and asked me for a concise overview of the five crucial points of the case, I swiftly adhered to his instructions and provided the briefing within a mere five minutes.
I literally wondered, armed with this brief yet comprehensive understanding of the matter, Mr. Rohatgi entered the courtroom and adeptly presented those five points before the bench. The outcome was a stay order secured promptly for our client. As a budding legal professional, these instances became invaluable take-home lessons for me. Similar encounters with other senior lawyers further compelled me to refine and streamline my approach to applying legal reasoning whenever confronted with a complex legal issue.
Finally, what advice would you give to aspiring lawyers looking to specialise in specific areas of law like business law or arbitration?
My first and foremost advice to aspiring lawyers is to invest ample time in evaluating their areas of interest before making any hasty decisions. Particularly for first-generation lawyers, patience is paramount. The legal profession demands a profound commitment to reading and comprehending the practical dimensions of the law. Reflecting on my early experiences, a seasoned colleague once wisely remarked that the five years of legal education merely serve as a ticket to the movie—the true narrative unfolds when one enters the realm of actual legal practice. There is a huge difference between the theoretical studies and the realities of actual legal practice.
Furthermore, I urge young lawyers to prioritize reading the law thoroughly before dispensing advice to clients. A proficient lawyer is, above all, a diligent reader. Repeated readings of a document can lead to different interpretations, highlighting the nuanced complexity of legal matters. Staying abreast of the latest Supreme Court rulings and legislative amendments, attending seminars, and engaging in continuing legal education is crucial. Being well-versed in the current legal landscape allows you to confront situations armed with the knowledge of prevailing laws, enabling you to apply them judiciously to the specifics of a case and determine the optimal course of action.
When delving into business laws and arbitration, both of which involve extensive document analysis, it’s essential to recognize the inherent significance of each document. In arbitrations, voluminous files are commonplace due to the fundamental role of document interpretation. Understanding the intricacies of a case and securing a favorable order or award for your client hinges on a meticulous examination of these documents. Notably, many of these documents are crafted by corporate entities through their in-house legal advisors, rendering the identification of loopholes challenging. A thorough and patient analysis of these documents is the key to navigating and finding solutions in these intricate areas of law. My last advice would be to always uphold the highest ethical standards in your practice. Integrity is crucial in building trust with clients, colleagues, and the legal community. By steadfastly adhering to the principles, you not only preserve your personal integrity but contribute to the overall credibility and trustworthiness of the legal profession.
You come from a family with a rich tradition of military service, yet you chose a different path as a lawyer. Can you tell us about the factors that influenced your decision to pursue a legal career, particularly in areas like intellectual property and media law?
Well I didn’t really choose a path of lawyer to be completely honest, life just in a way forced it upon me I believe. In my opinion I am a classic case of ‘Failure by-chance Lawyer’. Allow me to give some context to this. Yes, I do come from a family that has given three generations of Military personnel dating all the way back to my Great-grandfather to serve in the British-Indian Army. Naturally coming from a family where the only thing or people you know are Military personnels, it’s obvious that you would aspire for the same thing yourself.
So right after my graduation in B.com, I gave my CDS (Common-Defence Services) exams cleared that and went on for my SSB (Service Selection Board), and I was so sure that I was going into the Indian Army, but this is where my story changes because I got screened-out i.e. rejected, by the Indian Army. This was all happening in 2013, and after I got rejected by the Indian Army I had no idea what I was supposed to do next because there was never a ‘Plan-B’ in place. Now given my educational background I felt that the only options I had was either pursuing Chartered Accountancy (CA) or going for a Master of Business Administration (MBA), just like what all of my class-mates were doing. Thankfully, and this is something I really pride myself on is that during my B.com, I made some amazing friends one of whom is Shona Jacob, owner and proprietor of the hospitality brand “Love Made Edible” and she advised me to not to go along-with the herd, in-fact I still remember the word till this date that convinced me to be a lawyer which was “You have a very strong command over the English language, You should really thing about pursuing Law as a career”, and that where the idea to become a lawyer came from, by a friendly advice.
Thankfully, my score(s) at the time of graduating B.com were good enough to get me into ILS, Pune, in the three (3) year LLB course. Now, I had no idea what Intellectual Property law was, let alone media law when I got into law school. I had more affinity towards Family-Law and was convinced in 2013 that I would pursue Family-Law as a career, but here again thanks to a friend that was Disha Dewan who was also my batch-mate and daughter of Dr. Mohan Dewan of the Law firm R.K. Dewan & Co., I was introduced to the basic concept of what was Intellectual Property Law. Thankfully, ILS has a pro-discussion culture so my batch was always discussing and debating concepts of law and latest developments, and IPR happened to strike a chord with me primarily because of its fluid nature. While the Statute itself was set, the application and understanding(s) that stems from IP matters are extremely fluid and always subject to interpretation be it Trademark, Copyright, Designs etc, which was made more and more clear to me when I read judgments, specially those from the Delhi High Court. The type of IP Judgments that would come out from Delhi, it was like every day there is a new comment or understanding provided by the Courts in the field of IP. This great big puzzle that was known as Intellectual Property Rights was just so much fun that I knew that this is what I want to specialize in some day, and this speculation got further confirmed when I interned at ITAG, Kolkata and R.K. Dewan & Co.
As to Media Law, well that happened because of curiosity to put it simply. When you start understanding a subject and your basics start to get better, sooner or later you start to look at every area where the application of that subject may come. I had an interest in IPR and I would always wonder what other areas can IP have an impact in, and the immediate conclusion that came to me was ‘Films’. But my transition into Media Law didn’t happen until later in 2019, when Mr. Ameet Naik and Ms. Madhu Gadodia found me and decided to place a gambling bet on me to see whether an IP Specialist could transition over to becoming a Media Lawyer. One has to appreciate the similarities and the dissimilarities between IPR and Media Law, while IPR was fluid, Media Law was completely dynamic and it was always changing, and unlike IPR, Media Law does not have an identified set of law(s), if anything Media Law is more common law and equity based which makes the scope to interpret and apply the law(s) during a media dispute more wide and challenging in my personal opinion. The big puzzle which I was already use to solving in the field of IPR just got substantially bigger the moment I was introduced into Media Law because that ultimately also resulted in me being exposed to and working in matters concerning the laws of Arbitration, White Collar Crime, IT Law etc, it really just broadened my horizons and exposed to so many challenges which has been nothing but fun, frustrating at times, but fun nonetheless.
Transitioning from a Bachelors-in-Commerce to a law degree is quite a shift. What motivated you to make this transition, and how has your commerce background influenced your legal career?
Well I personally don’t think that the transition from B.com to Law was a very big shift for me because, while I was pursuing my B.com we were required to study the erstwhile Company Act 1956 (now 2013) and I was also pursuing an Advanced Diploma in Advertising and Marketing from my college (H.R. College, Mumbai) wherein we were introduced to concepts of “Trade Mark” and “Copyright”. So in a sense there was some minor exposure to subjects of law during my B.com which I think in hindsight did help somewhat. However, pursuing a career in law was definitely not in radar at any point in time while I was pursuing my graduation in B.com.
Funnily enough I think the three elements that motivated me to pursue a career in law and just go all in were “Dumb-Luck”, “Desperation” and “Disaster”, I call this the “3D” elements of my career and by no stretch of imagination is this a bad thing. In fact I believe that the best of things to come are a product of the bad times. For example, getting rejected by the Indian Army was a Disaster for me as I never had a second thought or plan about what I would do in case I never made it into the armed forces. My friends suggesting that I pursue law as a career was pure Dumb-Luck, and because I had no other plans my Desperation to excel at something made sure that law as a career worked for me. But above all else I think the reason why I stayed motivated to make law as a career for myself was because of my parents who never pressured or doubted me at any stage of my life or while I was pursuing law, it really is very important to have a good support system as it definitely makes things some-what easier.
I think for me personally my background in commerce didn’t really kick-in and started helping till I had made a transition into Media Law. The practice of Media Law has a substantial portion fixated on commercial transaction, liabilities and deal structuring. Thankfully because of my background in commercial subjects my ability to understand and cater to client’s whether it’s in financial transactions or disputes, substantially contributes towards the same. This is a personal opinion but I feel any Attorney today practising commercial laws who has a finance or a commerce background does indeed have a minor edge as compared to his/her colleagues who may not have had that type of a training prior to pursuing a career in law.
During your time in law school, you engaged in multiple internships in different cities. How did these internships shape your understanding of the legal profession, and how did they ultimately lead you to your current specialization in IP and media law?
Thankfully I had good seniors in law school with whom I was living with in the Hostel those days, and when you have access to your seniors you can discuss your queries with them and understand what others before you have either done right or wrong. While I was in ILS, Pune we had lectures from 7am to 11am, after that you had a substantial portion of the day left to you to choose what you want to do. I had two very clear options in front of me, either after classes I could participate in extracurricular activities or choose to intern in Pune itself and attend lower court proceedings and gain an understanding as to what is the practical side of the legal career. While both were equally good options, I had already done my fare-share of extra-curricular activities while pursuing my B.com, I wanted to do something different and so I chose the later option and chose to intern at law firms or chambers of practising Advocates while in Pune. During course breaks I would make it a point to intern in a different city which would usually either be Mumbai, Delhi or Kolkata.
I think when I look back during my time when I was interning what set me apart was the fact that I took an initiative. I would make it a point to go up to the Partners and Associates and introduce myself properly and take an active interest in learning about them, this resulted in familiarity which resulted in the team’s to remember me while assigning projects. Now the next part that came was always the most crucial part during my internships which was to always provide good solid work, which meant putting in extra effort than normal, but it’s effort that puts you in a different light than compared to the rest because the moment the Associate’s would take notice of my work or my ability to understand the subject I would always end up getting access to better work and more details from the Associates.
This process not only ultimately led me to get a Pre-Placement Offer (PPO) from R.K. Dewan & Co., but it also framed my way of thinking because I realised that it’s not enough to just work hard, you also need to know how and when to work smart. This same philosophy and work-ethic which I had moulded during my internship days was later on developed and which greatly helped into my professional career and it’s the same thing which also helped me when I transitioned from IP into Media Law. When one thinks about it, internships can be a great way to discover more about yourself at-least that’s what happened for me.
You spent a significant part of your career at R.K. Dewan & Co, where you worked with Dr. Mohan Dewan and Mr. Ameet Deshpande. How did your experiences there, especially in Pune, shape your early career and the skills you developed as a litigator?
Luckily enough I was always offered a repeat internship at R.K. Dewan & Co, during my law school which led to the team knowing me fairly well and they had a good idea as to my capabilities at the time. So when an opening came up in the Litigation Team, Dr. Mohan Dewan was very kind enough to actually ask me if I had any interest in joining them. Now I was sure I wanted to pursue a career in IPR, I just didn’t know at the time whether I would want to be litigator but sometimes in life you just have to take a leap-of-faith, and thankfully this leap-of-faith continues to pay off till date.
Working with Dr. Mohan Dewan and Mr. Ameet Deshpande, was like an introduction to a crash course of two very different subjects at the same time and you had to catch-up really fast in order to keep up with them. Dr. Mohan Dewan is very particular about what may be your concepts and thoughts when understanding a legal matter and he is equally that much invested when you are putting in words to paper. Likewise, Mr. Deshpande was very focused on the proper interpretation and application of the Civil Procedure Code that we would adopt for our litigation matters. My time in Pune and in New Delhi with R.K. Dewan & Co., was just a wealth of knowledge and experience at the time because unlike in Mumbai where there is a Counsel culture, Pune and Delhi do not operate in the same manner. I was responsible for drafting everything from top-to-bottom and I was expected to argue the as-well, I did not have a safety system like we have in Mumbai where experienced Counsels are engaged to assist in achieving the best possible outcome in a matter. It was very much a sink or swim type of situation, and thankfully I had seniors in the form of Dr. Mohan Dewan and Mr. Deshpande who ensured that I would never sink.
I think at the time while this was happening, I was not very appreciative of it but today when I look back how my career trajectory has been till now my entire core structure as a lawyer is substantially contributed to by Dr. Mohan Dewan and Mr. Ameet Deshpande, and how they took the effort to train as Litigators. In-fact its this very same training that has often come to my aid on several occasions when I’m assisting some of the best Arguing Counsels such as Mr. Ashish Kamat, Mr. Mr. Rashmin Khandekar or Ms. Megha Chandra.
You then made a transition to Khaitan & Co in Mumbai, where you worked with Partners in the IP-Litigation team. Could you share some insights into the challenges and learnings you gained during your time there, particularly in terms of working under pressure and delivering results?
My time at Khaitan & Co., was a very interesting and an important milestone in my career I feel. When the opportunity to work with the IP Team in Khaitan & Co, Mumbai, came along I was extremely excited because I got to work with some great partners such as Nishad Nadkarni, Adeesh Nargolkar and Smriti Yadav. All three (3) partners had different styles and diverse range of work, while Nishad had the most litigation matters with him, Adeesh would have technical matters before the IPAB (now dissolved) for trademark rectification or patent cancellations and Smriti would have IP Registration and Prosecution related matters, and the learning was vast and filled with opportunities which the Partners were always willing to provide and accommodate you with.
I think the first challenge I immediately faced was the fact that the Partners in Khaitan would force you to call them by their first name only which was a complete culture shock to me, and a pleasant one to add. In terms of the professional challenges that came my way during the Khaitan & Co, was the fact that I was provided with multiple opportunities to work not just in matters in Mumbai but with teams based in New Delhi and Kolkata as-well. This wide exposure allowed me to understand how each team would function and what were their basic requirements and how best to deliver, as per expectations.
Now naturally working with three Partners and multiple teams in different teams is an amazing exposure that also invites pressure for delivering the best possible outcome in the time-frame allotted. This will at times force an attorney to re-think his/ her usual course of strategy while working. Now pressure is not necessarily a bad thing because oftentimes the right amount of pressure makes one push beyond their standard limits and perform or achieve in a manner which was previously unexplored and which was the same thing that happened to me. Thankfully, I had some really great Reporting Partners, especially Nishad who would always remain calm despite including in those moments when I would make mistakes and he would have the presence of mind to not only let me know where I went wrong but what I could have also done to avoid it.
Your journey led you to Naik Naik & Co, where you transitioned from being an IP lawyer to a media lawyer. What prompted this shift, and how did it broaden your expertise in a wide variety of laws and matters?
I always thought that IP is connected to Media Law as they virtually have the same basic foundation. After spending some time working in IPR I just wanted a new challenge and wanted to try something new. Luckily, at the time Naik Naik & Co’s media Litigation team had an opening and my interview was taken by none other than Mr. Ameet Naik himself, which is very rare because he’s generally not involved in the interview process.
Mr. Naik at this point had the same question as why I would want to transition from IP to Media Law. He understood my reasons for wanting a new set of challenges and wanting to do something different and more than what I was already doing. I think it was the risk-taking factor that perhaps impressed Mr. Naik and Ms. Gadodia, and they were kind enough to offer me a position in Ms. Gadodia’s team.
The moment I was brought into Naik Naik & Co, the initial years had nothing to do with IPR, I was made to attend to matters before the Mumbai-MCA, Co-operative Society Courts, Magistrate Courts for Cheque Dishonour matters, Arbitrations for Media production companies. It was this wide range of work that allowed me to really expand my horizons beyond IPR and learn and work in subjects in which I hadn’t had the opportunity earlier. Every matter that deals with a different subject requires a different style of thinking be it in IPR, Arbitration, IBC, Cheque Dishonour Disputes and it was this exposure provided to me by Naik Naik & Co., and specially due to the faith of Mr. Ameet Naik and Ms. Madhu Gadodia, that I was able to expand my horizons and understanding of the various aspects of law. It’s no secret that work-culture of Naik Naik & Co., of throwing their Associates in the deep end for handling and attending to matters is actually the very thing that makes Naik Naik & Co., Associates so unique because the amount of exposure to work and pressure we withstand is second to none and which results in some of the best Associates getting trained from our firm.
You’ve been involved in some notable cases during your time at Naik Naik & Co. Can you share some key highlights or challenges you encountered while handling cases like Amitabh Bachchan’s Personality Rights John Doe Action or the “The Kerala Story” Pan India Litigation?
I have actually had amazing opportunities to be associated with some of the most unique cases handled by Naik Naik & Co., because of the vision that Mr. Ameet Naik has instilled in us. What most people don’t know is that the Amitabh Bachchan Personality Rights case did not happen over a course of a few days or months. In-fact the groundwork for the suit had begun during the Covid period. It was Mr. Naik who was the one who first understood that the legal framework and judiciary was ready and, in a position, to pass the first Personality Rights-John Doe order, and the only person on whose behalf we who could institute such a case who would be undeniable for this type of an action was Mr. Bachchan. This matter had Mr. Ameet Naik, very much involved with us and we were able to understand his plan of action as to how he wanted this particular case to be framed and what instances of third-party violations had to be highlighted before the Delhi High Court in order to maximise the chances of obtaining the desired result. This matter particularly for me was a great learning experience because not only was I put in a leadership role for attending to this matter but I was also led to understand the key requirements for a John-Doe style action and how important the structuring of a case was.
In contrast to the Amitabh Bachchan Personality Rights case, the Kerala Story matter which saw multiple litigations coming out in different territories in India was hands-on live master class experience on how to get prepared in a Suit in a matter of few minutes. The reason why I say this is because Media Law litigation is extremely volatile and dynamic and a Media Disputes Attorney will have a very short time to prepare for a case, usually just one day before the date of hearing because for some reason people just love filing last minute actions, but the Kerala Story litigation was just another level itself. In this matter I got personally see Mr. Ameet Naik argue the matter before the Kerala High Court (via VC) and before the Supreme Court before the CJI, what’s also unique is that while these matters were happening we were also getting notifications of multiple litigation proceedings being instituted in different High Courts in different States. All of these matters were just beautifully steered and handled by Mr. Naik and Ms. Gadodia, in which I had a front row seat to be involved and learn from the best, which has immensely contributed to my understanding and growth as a lawyer.
As someone who has progressed in the legal profession and gained recognition for your work, what advice would you offer to fresh law graduates who are just beginning their legal careers?
When I was starting my career as an IP Specialist in R.K. Dewan & Co., a lot of people shared their opinions with me on how starting your career in a specialization in a particular field as a very bad idea and how I would never get to learn enough. Then when I made the decision to transition from IPR into Media Law, I had to again hear the opinions of people who suggested that after having gained a specialization I would not be able to cope-up and work in general law. Both opinions, while valid, turned out to be wrong because I was able to prove that they don’t apply to me.
The reason why I share the above is because if there is a law student out there or a fresh graduate and if you are feeling the pressure of doing something safe or tried and tested then they should know that they don’t have to bend according to these so-called pundits’ opinions. No one can measure your ability or know the extent of your affinity towards a subject better than you alone. Have faith in yourself and be bold enough to take a risk with your career. There are no conventional or unconventional paths to take in law or in life, you are walking your own path alone and you alone can decide where you want it to lead you.
On that note let me leave you with Steve Job’s quote stated in 2005 during the Stanford commencement address “Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish”.
Can you share with us your journey and what inspired you to pursue a career in law, especially with your impressive academic achievements?
Like many others, I was once keen on cracking the UPSC exams and making my mark as an IAS officer. I was told by my family and friends that attempting the UPSC with law as a subject paper would make things easier. This made perfect sense. Law is after all a key pillar of governance, and I believed that having a degree in law would naturally give me an edge over my competitors when attempting the UPSC exams. So to my mind, the law was simply a means to an end at first. This is by no means to say that I did not take my CLAT preparations very seriously. I moved to ISC from the State Board after Class X as I felt this would allow me to pursue subjects that were more relevant for CLAT with more rigor. I also signed up for CLAT coaching classes, and gave it my best to make it to a good law school.
My larger goal of clearing the UPSC did not waiver, that is until I actually started law school and fell thoroughly in love with the law. I was awed by this complex network of norms that held the social contract together while leaving enough room for clever interpretations and mental gymnastics that it never became tedious. I lost myself in my textbooks and lectures, spending hours at the university library to soak in as much as I could of what the law had to teach me. I soon realized that the law was no longer something I had to do, but something I wanted to do. Once this realization hit, I never looked back.
As for my “academic achievements” as you call it, I believe they are the by-products of two things. First, a genuine fondness for what I do, and second, discipline / hard work. I also believe that consistent performance, be it at academics or any area for that matter, is just as important as excellence. Consistency takes determination, and a willingness to commit continuous effort to whatever one does. This belief has helped me stay focused not just in my academics, but also in my work.
You’ve had a diverse range of experiences, from working at a prestigious tax law firm to handling various civil and commercial matters. What prompted you to establish your independent law practice in 2019?
It was in my first year of law school, when I participated in the Nani Palkhivala Direct Tax Moot in Mumbai, that I was drawn towards tax law. This led me to pursue an internship with Lakshmikumaran & Sridharan in my third and fourth years, when I was fortunate enough to be offered a PPO. The time I spent at LKS in the formative years of my career was crucial, as it concretised my affinity towards tax law and ensured that it would remain one of my core practice areas. My subsequent stint reading for the BCL at Oxford University considerably broadened my professional horizons and opened my eyes to the fact that I need not pigeonhole myself into any one branch of law. The course structure allowed me to craft a cocktail curriculum for myself comprising among other things finance, trade, and comparative corporate law, which prompted me to look beyond my interest in tax when charting my career trajectory. My internship with Mr. Philip Baker, QC, served as a reminder of the adrenaline rush that came with running a well-researched and well-presented matter, and rekindled my interest in litigation. Upon my return to India, I spent some time learning the ropes of litigation at the chambers of Adv. C.K. Nandakumar (now a designated senior counsel), where I also learned invaluable lessons on running an independent law practice. From there, establishing my own chambers seemed a natural progression and I was able to fulfil that dream in 2019 – thanks in no small part to the blessings and support of my wonderful group of family, friends, seniors, and colleagues.
Your practice covers corporate insolvency, property, tax, and other commercial and civil matters. Could you give our listeners some insight into the unique challenges and rewards of handling such a wide array of legal areas?
There are moments when I identify all too well with the adage “jack of all trades and master of none” as a general practitioner, given the sheer scope of work. Apart from needing strong foundations in all areas in which you practice, you also need to constantly stay on top of domain developments – be it a landmark judgment settling (or-unsettling) a substantive question of law, or an obscure circular from a local authority that manages to make existing workflows obsolete in one swift stroke. Many colleagues also argue, perhaps rightly so, that the world is heading towards super-specialization. Increasingly complex problems call for increasingly complex solutions, and some say that it is simply too difficult if not impossible to gain the required level of insight into multiple domains at once.
However, for every moment of uncertainty, there are two others to remind me that there is still immense value in what we do. It is always an advantage to have a 360-degree perspective on briefs, as it helps avoid situations where you win the battle in one forum yet lose the war in another. Such a perspective only comes with experience gained by handling matters across domains and forums. We also do not work in silos and make it a point to enlist the help of domain experts as and when required.
In addition, and most importantly, the subjects we handle are all interconnected at various levels. It is not possible to practice say corporate or commercial law without having a good grip on property and tax law. Ultimately, what makes a good lawyer is their innate understanding of how people work and think. The broader your sense of how and what makes the world tick, the more effective you are as a lawyer.
You’ve represented both government and non-governmental organizations, as well as tier 1 and 2 law firms. How do you adapt your approach when working with different types of clients and organizations?
Every client, whether a government organization or a business, has a set of attributes that is unique to them. This could be their nature of work, familiarity with the legal system, reporting requirements, personal convictions – the list goes on. There are some clients who need to be sat down and patiently walk through their legal strategy many times over, while there are others you may not meet in person at all and with whom you interact only when strictly necessary. Needless to say, a one-size-fits-all approach will not work here and you are expected as a lawyer to tailor your approach based on the unique attributes of the client as well as the matter at hand.
While the specifics may vary, there are some aspects of client relationships that stay the same irrespective of the client. For instance, I make it a point to handle every client with a high degree of professionalism, always respecting the human element behind each litigation. I do not differentiate my clients on an interpersonal level based on where they come from or what their background is. Lessons learnt from working with some clients can also be transposed to others, making the overall processes stronger.
As a guest lecturer at several universities and a guest editor for peer-reviewed journals, you’re deeply involved in legal academia. How do these roles complement your legal practice, and what do you enjoy most about them?
While I have carried forward an interest in legal academia from my law school days, I am not sure it would be accurate to call me “deeply involved” at this point, as time and bandwidth constraints have certainly impacted my involvement. In the past, I used to be a frequent contributor to my university law journal and newsletters, as well as some external publications. We had an in-house knowledge building team at LKS, whose high-quality content kept us young lawyers on our feet and up to date. At Oxford, I was part of the South Asian Political Thought Discussion Group and occasionally coached younger students for moots and peer-reviewed their papers. I still receive invites to deliver guest lectures on tax and insolvency law from time to time and speak at various events / platforms.
I believe it is important to keep in touch with legal academia in whatever limited way our work schedule permits. Making time to read the right literature and also interact with students and other academicians will go a long way in strengthening one’s knowledge pool, particularly on aspects one may not routinely encounter in the course of work. As the rush from one matter to the next rarely leaves room for creative thought or knowledge-building, it becomes necessary to find other ways to organically stay in touch with academia. This could even be something as simple as setting aside time to discuss learnings with peers and colleagues.
You’ve been recognized with awards such as the “Emerging Women’s Leader” award. What do you believe contributed most to your success, both academically and professionally?
Success in any field in my opinion is largely the product of three things – determination, hard work, and consistency. If you give enough time and commitment to anything you do, success will find you sooner or later. Cliched as that might sound, I can say from personal experience that the formula does work. I had my priorities well-set from a very early age and was highly driven to be good at whatever I did. I knew my strengths and weaknesses well, and I put in as many hours as it took to get the results I wanted. I was also fortunate to have a good support system of family that helped me however they could, especially my parents, my husband and one particular maternal uncle, be it through words of encouragement to inspire me or objective reality-checks to keep me grounded.
In your impressive list of publications, you’ve covered topics ranging from tax law to arbitration. Could you highlight one area of law that you’re particularly passionate about and why it matters in today’s legal landscape?
Although I have written on a variety of matters in the past, they have all largely been the outcome and logical extension of some litigation or advisory opinion that I have rendered. This is an unfortunate reflection of the reality that litigation leaves very little time to focus on other areas of interest.
That said, if I were to highlight one area of law as my favourite, it would have to be insolvency and bankruptcy law. As an office, we handle matters under the IBC across all forums, from the NCLT up to the Hon’ble Supreme Court of India. This has given us a well-rounded and elaborate perspective in handling complex IBC matters. Our interactions with a variety of stakeholders including shareholders, directors, creditors, resolution professionals / liquidators and others in the system have not only helped us better understand the commercial motivations behind many decisions made in the IBC space, but they have also given us the ability predict with some accuracy the roadblocks in a resolution / liquidation process and plan around them. India’s experience with insolvency and bankruptcy may still be maturing, but I very much look forward to continuing my work in this evolving domain.
Given your extensive experience in the legal field, what advice would you offer to recent law graduates who are just starting their careers and navigating the legal profession?
As a first-generation woman lawyer, I was told at various points throughout my journey that the road ahead would be more than a little challenging. When I left my plush corporate job and set out to read for the BCL and thereafter, came back to India to be a full time litigator, there were several well-wishers who gave me similar caveats about the transition to litigation. I can now say with the benefit of hindsight that they were not wrong. There is a lot of struggle and even more uncertainty, especially as an independent practitioner. In my initial years of independent practice, the lack of definite answers like where / when / how will the next brief come if they come and will they pay, were all very unsettling. And very honestly, they still are.
What I was not told enough however, was how rewarding an experience it is to brave the storm and watch yourself grow into the lawyer you always wanted to be. It is in fact the years of struggle that taught me to trust myself better. I took many leaps of faith, some small and some big, I made mistakes, learned from my mistakes, sought help and gave help where I could, and made it my life’s mission to pursue my dream of becoming a good lawyer. I will take the very fact that I am speaking to you now as proof that all the time and effort put in over the years did pay off.
This would be my advice to my future colleagues who are just stepping into the legal profession as well. You have chosen a career full of promise and intrigue. The road to success may be more treacherous for some of you than others, but it will not be easy for anyone. The law truly is a jealous mistress, and will demand all the attention you can give. However, if you give it the attention it deserves, the sky’s the limit. Take the time to introspect and know the direction you wish your career to go, keeping in mind that there always is room to reorient down the line. Once you have this clarity, work with an office that teaches you not just the subject but also the smaller life lessons that will help you in your career. Build a robust network of friends, colleagues, and acquaintances, as the importance of reputation through word-of-mouth cannot be overstated. Last but not the least, never stop learning. There is an ocean of knowledge available at your fingertips – make good use of it.
